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Here are the power differences for consoles available this 2016 holiday season.

For those wanting to purchase a new console, here is a visualization of what to expect power wise from each of the systems available this year, a handy graph comparing the different options from a purely graphical point of view. The teraflops listed for each is the best way to measure the power of each GPU and relates to what visual capabilities they will have. All systems support HDR with the exception of the original Xbox One.

(Xbox One: 1.31, Xbox One S: 1.40, PS4: 1.84, PS4 Pro: 4.20)

As a reference all systems can be had for $299.99 (USD), except the Playstation 4 Pro which will set you back $100 more. If 1 TB hard drive space is something you feel you need however, (as many do these days) PS4 pro will be only $50 more than the Xbox One S at similar HDD capacity, and yet, for gaming offers vastly more power. On the other hand if you are a videophile without a high speed internet connection and unlimited data, the Xbox One S has the advantage of being the only console coming with the new BluRay UHD drive.

Happy Shopping!

Xbox One: 1.31, Xbox One S: 1.40, PS4: 1.84, PS4 Pro: 4.20

Genuine-User3513d ago (Edited 3513d ago )

I'd say you can't go wrong with the PS4 Pro at £350 unless you really want that UHD player.

SpaceRanger3513d ago

Agreed, for the next year PS4 Pro will be the dominant console on the market by more than twice the power and performance.

A lot will change when Scorpio comes out though. It'll be very similar to the PS4 v. Xbox One difference right now.

Genuine-User3513d ago (Edited 3513d ago )

That's right. I'm looking to the Pro come November!

Kribwalker3509d ago

It'll be quite a bit more power difference then that as right now it will be the power of a ps4 pro and ps4 combined

nitus103509d ago

In less than two months (10th Dec 2016 @ $400 USD) the PS4pro comes out and if you want to wait for the Scorpio or whatever Microsoft decides to call it you will have to wait an additional year and we still have no idea what the price will be.

@Kribwalker

Sure there will be a significant difference in power but within two months people will be playing games and even streaming 4K movies on all PS4's (you can do this now) to their 4K TV's (small in relation to the number of 1080p TV's out there). It is very difficult to play games and stream/play 4K movies on a paper console that won't become reality for over a year.

S2Killinit3507d ago

When he puts it that way, Pro is the way to go. I mean that much power for 50 bucks is insane value.

Neonridr3513d ago (Edited 3513d ago )

Wow, what a pointless article. Here's a graph showing maximum GPU performance to base your decision off of.

While the PS4 Pro no doubt has way more in the GPU department, only select tiles will ever use the added horsepower. Unless a dev creates a special mode to enable on the Pro model, the game will look and play identical to the base PS4. It's like having a Ferrari but only being able to take it through school zones.

The games that enable the Pro features, absolutely will look and play much, much better.

But it's a pretty bad article when you are just throwing out numbers saying "Clearly based off this super detailed graph, the Pro is the best one".

"On the other hand if you are a videophile without a high speed internet connection and unlimited data..."

or if you prefer actual true 4K content not being streamed at a less than ideal bitrate which can only be found via a physical disc....

Genuine-User3513d ago (Edited 3513d ago )

I'm scratching my head in confusion. Why do you think this blog post is pointless?

PlayStation Pro will provide the best graphical gaming experience on a console until the Scorpio is released in roughly 14 months.

"only select tiles will ever use the added horsepower"

Every single game from October onwards is mandated to provide enhanced pro features. Games like Battlefield 1, Dishonoured 2, Call of Duty Infinite Warfare, Titanfall 2 and Mafia 3 will look and play best on the PS4 Pro, as far as console are concerned.

Neonridr3513d ago

It's up to the dev to provide a Pro mode. Nobody is required to make any special version. Maybe 1st party titles, but Sony can't make EA have to do additional work to make a separate mode that only certain PS4 users can take advantage of, that would be ridiculous for them to expect devs to do that. I am sure plenty of devs will want to create an enhanced mode, but nobody has a gun from Sony to their heads forcing them to do all that extra work.

I was merely referring to the blog post showing a chart of the TF numbers that each hardware can provide. But the 4.2TF is only useful if the company is creating a Pro mode. If it's the regular game, then the extra TF difference from the base PS4 to the Pro sits unused basically.

I am happy at least that the Pro will enhance VR, that was my main concern regarding getting the Pro anyways.

Genuine-User3513d ago

As I mentioned earlier, Sony will not allow any game from October to ship without pro enhanced features.

"Sony wants PS4 Pro support on all games from October onwards. While older titles can have Pro features patched in, the platform holder will not allow new titles to add Pro features at a later date."

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Every game from October starting with the Mafia 3 will have enhanced graphical features for the PlayStation Pro.

Neonridr3513d ago (Edited 3513d ago )

the platform holder will not allow new titles to add Pro features at a later date. But that doesn't mean that they require every title to have Pro features to begin with.

"Neo-only or PS4-only games are not permitted (remember that Neo can still run unenhanced titles - developers are simply prohibited from locking out audiences of either console)."

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Genuine-User3513d ago

All of these upcoming AA/AAAgames will support PS Pro on release:

http://m.imgur.com/5wO4f4i?...

Can you think of anything with a release date that's not on this list?

Neonridr3513d ago

I dunno.. I don't memorize the release list. I am simply telling you that not all titles will have a Pro enhancement mode. Don't believe me, it's ok. It doesn't bother me either way.

Babadook73512d ago

This is something that Sony has stated privately to developers and so far seems to be playing out in confirmed releases. All titles will be required to include a 'Pro' mode going forward. So yes it's something Sony fans can count on for the future.

OB1Biker3512d ago (Edited 3512d ago )

Your trying hard to downplay the advantage of more power. Will you do the same thing when Scorpio is actually a working console in more than a year?
I get it power is not everything and I agree that it's preference that matters but Geez man..

Regarding the article, the pic is misleading about the consoles dimensions.

Neonridr3512d ago

no.. it's just funny how we made an article where they showed a graph of GPU performance. Like that's the only thing that dictates the success of a console.

I guess next fall we can make the same article showing a graph with the Scorpio at 6TF. That must mean it's the best right?

I am not discounting the power advantage, but who is the Pro competing with? Nobody.. because they are early to the party. Slim and XB1 S compete with each other.. Pro has to wait until Scorpio releases for a fair competition. Unless you want to compare the Pro to the XB1 S which is totally unbiased and equal right?

OB1Biker3512d ago (Edited 3512d ago )

'who is the Pro competing with? Nobody.'

,I mean, think about what you ve just said. I know you want to hear Scorpio is more powerful blah blah but this is about the consoles available and they are all in competition so to speak as a gaming console of choice.
And yes we ll get the same posts no doubts about it since even now there are so many articles bragging about Scorpio power while its not even a reality for a good while.

That said I dont want it to be like a fanboy war argument, I really dont mind people having different preferences but just saying theres no need to downplay the reality and then boost it when it suits. Nothing personal really.

Neonridr3512d ago

no not at all, but let's keep the comparisons in check. I understand the article is showing what is available now, but that would have been like comparing the 360 to the PS2 when the 360 launched. Yes there was nothing else on the market from Sony or Nintendo yet, but we knew the Wii and PS3 were coming.

When Scorpio comes along, then the comparisons can begin. Honestly the only thing the Pro should be compared to at this point is PC to show you how powerful the Pro actually is. Showing it's better than the Xbox 1 means very little. Let's see how it holds up to the next offerings from Nintendo or MS.

OB1Biker3512d ago (Edited 3512d ago )

@Neo
I understand what your trying to point out but this is literally 'For those wanting to purchase a new console ' this holiday season. Nothing more . Also it seems this year 'teraflops' became very popular so that makes sense. Maybe you think there should be a transparent graph showing 'next year Scorpio 6tf'? Whatever.
tbh I dont really care that much but if you want a technical comparison between similar machines maybe your in the wrong article..
Anyway happy gaming :)

Neonridr3511d ago

nah I just don't understand what is the point. It's comparing apples to oranges. If it's trying to paint the Pro in a positive light, then of course it succeeds. But that's because there is no real competition for it.

Maybe we should compare PC to Pro for this holiday then just to keep it fair. Next year when Scorpio releases, then you have another worth console to pit the Pro against. Otherwise it's a one sided fight and it just looks dumb. Of course the Pro is going to look and run the best, it's a new machine.

Exvalos3508d ago

What the he'll you been smoking man? Every game moving forward will have a pro mode, maybe not games that are about to release those will most likely need a patch. But every game from now on will take advantage of the pro.

yomfweeee3508d ago

If you want to try to downplay the Pro for those reasons, they all apply to Scorpio as well.

S2Killinit3507d ago

@neonridr
You have less and less credibility with every comment

Neonridr3507d ago

not here to make friends, could care less. I at least look at both sides of the fence. Your comment history proves that you clearly are drinking directly from the Sony tap.

I own a PS4 for christ-sake, my name here is my PSN name. I don't even own a current gen Xbox. But that doesn't mean that I am deluded into believing that Sony owns everything, blah blah blah, #1, blah, blah, blah.

It's hilarious hearing some of you guys talk the way you do. As a gamer you should be happy that there are other choices out there, and you should be experiencing all that you can. Instead, you choose to live inside a glass house made by Sony closing your eyes like nothing else exists. There is a big world out there, with many, many games to try.

S2Killinit3507d ago

Umm excuse me but there is one major difference between me and you. Im not the one who rushes to Playstation forums to get in first with my negative anti-Sony comments. I dont systematically go to xbox forums to spread negativity. If they have something good going I dont try to rain on their prade. I only argue with people who are hell bent on spreading negativity, with often flawed arguments, and you are one of them. So dont compare me to yourself.

DragoonsScaleLegends3507d ago

You also fail to mention the fact not all 4K Blu-ray Discs offer true 4K content...

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Dear team,

Xbox has always been different.

We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.

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Itveds8h ago

re-evaluating exclusivity 💀

PS players will need to go back to pretending to dislike Xbox games

pwnmaster30008h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Or meaning since it’s doing so good they might just do everything day 1.

They didnt say re-evaluating their multiplatform approach.
🤣🤣🤣 Xbox is so dead. I know you scared🤣🫵ӿ 97;

7h ago
Eonjay4h ago

Even when the topic is strictly Xbox he can't stop talking about PlayStation. Xbox has basically become the hate of PlayStation... and not much else.

pwnmaster30007h ago

Hurt over video games 🤣🤣

Lmao we all grew and got jobs but apparently you stayed home broke 🤣🤣.
Man I love loyal dogs like you. MS kicked Spit and slapped you around but you still come back on all 4s.

Good little boy 🤣🤣

7h ago
GhostScholar6h ago

My only question is what games are PlayStation gamers gonna play now? They don’t really come out with new games anymore. I’m looking forward to wolverine, but after that then what?

-Foxtrot7h ago

Lmao

There’s no way after everything it’s going back, the damage is done

What you are seeing now is the new management telling what the core fanbase (aka…you) want to hear so they are pumped full of hope and are more likely to invest in the next Xbox console

When Phil took over after the awful Xbox One reveal he did the same thing, he told people what they wanted to hear for damage control.

It’s crazy people are getting suckered into this again.

GhostScholar5h ago

I mean I always buy both systems, so none of this affects me.

CrashMania7h ago

And you'll now go back to again thinking exclusives suddenly matter, that multiplatform is no longer the future, or that revenue from multiplatforms doesn't matter, like all you flop flopping xbox grifters lol.

The whole post just sounds like the previous phil corpo slop talk to me, whole thing reads like a nothing burger lol.

Jin_Sakai5h ago

“re-evaluating exclusivity”

She also said this.

“The model that got us here won’t be the one that takes us forward.”

Profchaos3h ago

I don't know if they have a model anymore it's flipped so many times since the xbox one reveal

TriniOutsider5h ago

It must be miserable being someone like you.

Aloymetal5h ago

There's a bunch just like him but that's what happens when some rely on dreams, hope and wishful thinking. lol

isarai_lee5h ago

"pretending"? Bro gears hasnt broke 1mil on ps5, and starfield hasn't passed 200k, Hellblade 2 was even stated to be a financial disappointment in sales on its own console, let alone ps5. Im not saying people don't like them, but they certainly aren't setting the community on fire, Forza may be different tho

Neonridr4h ago

Forza broke 5 million on PlayStation. So yes. And there's a new one coming soon.

Aloymetal5h ago

Xbawx is ''re-evaluating exclusivity''... Translation: After throwing all sort of crap to the wall to see if something sticks but clearly nothing worked, we, including our lord ''in charge'' Phil came to the conclusion that exclusives indeed do matter so please forget if we ever said otherwise.
Yup, I feel it in my gut, next gen belongs to xbox, PS6 is cooked...

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1Victor3h ago

Someone can’t sleep after those 5 million forza games PURCHASED by PlayStation owners🤣 🧌 💥

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Extermin8or3_1h ago

Well with the decreased price of gamespass even with cod off it there is no way it is profitable given the cost of making their 1st party games (not if you actually include that cost in gamespass costs which they typically dont but should) they will just make a loss without the sales on

Xx_Pistol_xX7m ago

They don't hate the games. They hate the box.

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Outside_ofthe_Box7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster30007h ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

Itveds7h ago

Gonna be a funny world where Xbox games are exclusive and Sony games are not lol

Outside_ofthe_Box5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Funny world where Sony is pro consumer and Xbox is not? At least according to what you loyalists have been saying all this time 🤭

VenomUK5h ago

@itveds For how many years have you been doing this sad stuff? For how many years have you been creating fake accounts to troll? For how many years have you always been cl vnn

fr0sty3h ago

Pathetic incels with nothing better to do than argue over a box... Because they don't have any good games to play on theirs, obviously. If your precious box is so special, why don't you shut the fuck up and go play it?

CrashMania7h ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

Neonridr4h ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box1h ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Pyrofire952h ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

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maximusprime_7h ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted5h ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

shadowT7h ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers6h ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

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92nar1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Is it April fools day again?

The game is dead.

EDIT: the numbers are fudged. “digital sales on Nintendo and Xbox weren’t included in the data”

italiangamer1d 10h ago

🖕🖕🖕 29313;🤡🤡

92nar1d 7h ago

How’s concord 2, sorry I mean marathon doing? 🤣🤣

Neonridr13h ago

well it's not on Switch / Switch 2.. so their number would be zero.

The game had a decent launch however the userbase numbers are dwindling on Steam.

1Victor13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

“ Is it April fools day again?

The game is dead.

EDIT: the numbers are fudged. “digital sales on Nintendo and Xbox weren’t included in the data”

Does it hurt you to hear a SONY game was BEST selling ?
You gotta let go of those OBCURED feelings 🤷🏿

Neonridr13h ago

I mean the only reason MLB was the best selling title was because it was multi-platform. Likewise with Marathon. Will ring true for MS games. Only Nintendo titles are truly flexing their muscles when they chart as they are only to be found there.

S2Killinit3h ago

So that means we are going to act like it wasn’t best selling?

ChunkyMonk2h ago

It's kinda funny how this Obscure guy lives rent-free in your head. lol

Does Phil also live there?

1Victor39m ago

It's kinda funny how this Obscure guy lives rent-free in your head. lol

Does Phil also live there?
I’m sorry did you wrote something smart ?
Or are you trying to to be funny because you failed at both
Now kid run to mommy legs the grown ups are talking.
Don’t bother writing anything I will not respond to a bratty child like you

Outside_ofthe_Box12h ago

Can't wait to see how this is spun negatively. 😜

-Foxtrot7h ago

Yeah sure, yet the player count is no where near what they want for a AAA game with so much money behind it

Why people are trying to spin this game like it’s done overly amazing is baffling to me.

It won’t even be a blip on peoples radars by the end of the year .

S2Killinit3h ago

I really doubt that. I see it getting more and more traction.

ChunkyMonk2h ago

You must me typically wrong cuz those Steam chart numbers (AKA where the game sold the MOST) is less than what Hunt has, and Hunt didn't cost $500 million to make lol

Soy4h ago

So........doing better than most expected, but not enough to make back what it cost.

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