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Battlefield 3 shows consoles age.

With the new battlefield 3 being released Fall 2011, some information was given out to the public. We learn that the PC version has an impressive 64 player multiplayer, while the console version has a 12v12 mode. EA has stated that the current generation of consoles can not handle the Frostbite 2 engine they have incorporated with the game. The graphics are better, the destructible environment and effects are more realistic, and the landscape is now destructible which means craters can be created in the ground from blasts and explosions, and the physics are better as well, which just makes the game unplayable on consoles with anything more than 12v12. We also learn that there will be jets in the game, as well as a constant request from players... prone! We also hear that there will be planes in multiplayer! (The jets, yet it is unknown if consoles will feature planes in multiplayer) EA said they are still working very hard to improve the multiplayer on consoles and that 16v16 may be possible, however they will not dumb down the game on PC due to consoles. EA has stated again and again they Battlefield is staying true to it's original roots... The PC.

Many PS3 owners are also asking the question "How is it possible for MAG to have 256 player multiplayer when BF3 can not even have over 24?" Well, this is because MAG used an impressive server architecture that allowed for this, and not only that but it used many "tricks" to make the game run smoothly. One "trick" as an example would be the decrease of graphical quality by tiny increments until the desired fps is achieved. However, one may argue that the new Frostbite 2 engine is much to advanced for consoles to handle, as the tech demos show that it is very impressive, therefore leading to the 24 multiplayer experience.

BF3 is looking like a great game, with many new additions, and it will yet again redefine destructible environments in the FPS genre.

(P.S. All the information gathered here has been from the official EA twitter feed and the official EA Battlefield 3 forums.)

GSpartan7775557d ago (Edited 5557d ago )

Yes, you are correct. I think Battlefield 3 will be one of those games that shows that PC is a much more superior system than the consoles and not just a console port. This will truly be a PC game.

However, DICE is requiring some PC gamers to give their system an upgrade since they stated not too long ago that it will not support DX9, Windows XP. Hopefully that doesn't bite them too much in the ass, because I noticed that not many seemed to fond of that but it's a sacrifice they'll have to make.

AndrewRyan5556d ago

Well put. I think it is good that DICE is forcing people to move ahead. Imagine being a developer and being told that you are to decrease the quality of the game you are making because some users still have old technology that has been around since 2002 I believe. It's been 9 years, I hope people have ATLEAST upgraded to a DX10 video card by now, if not then they have to either buy a new one (cheap ones are available for DX11 and DX10) or buy the game for their console.

Agent-865556d ago

Shouldn't be a problem. BF2 required Win XP and DX9c with no support for Win 2000, yet sold like gangbusters. People will upgrade to Win 7 for this game, believe me. I've already upgraded my PC last year to play BFBC2 maxed out and ready for BF3.

ATiElite5554d ago

DX9 is 5 years old and it's time for it to go away. DX11 is gonna push PC gaming to a whole new level while pushing the gaming experience even further. Battlefield 3 and DX11 is too complicated for consoles and unlike MAG, DICE is not gonna lower the quality of graphics and the experience so 12 vs. 12 is all the console can do.

BF3 is a PC first game that shouldn't be compromised by the limitations of the consoles.

Nate-Dog5556d ago

I do indeed hope for the sake of the PC version and PC gamers they don't "dumb down" that version due to the console versions not being able to cope with what the PC version can. But I'm still looking forward to this, I played BFBC2 and have heard a lot about the original Battlefield games and the additions to this sound pretty good so far. Looking forward to a little more info so I can be sure of whether I want this or not but so far it's all sounding good.

Tachyon_Nova5556d ago

I assume there will be multiple versions of each map for BF3 like in BF2. For example each map would have a large server (64 player) layout and a small server (below 24 Player) layout. That would make it easy for them to simply put the small server layout on the console versions, allowing for combat to stay similarly paced.

Agent-865556d ago

Ya, that was my same thoughts on how to handle the differences between the PC and console versions. Just scale the maps down like BF2 did. However, this also makes me think that the consoles won't have jets either. If I remember correctly, the scaled down 32 player sized maps in BF2 didn't have jets. Oh well, just glad to see that DICE isn't gimping the PC version.

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Itveds3h ago

re-evaluating exclusivity 💀

PS players will need to go back to pretending to dislike Xbox games

pwnmaster30003h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Or meaning since it’s doing so good they might just do everything day 1.

They didnt say re-evaluating their multiplatform approach.
🤣🤣🤣 Xbox is so dead. I know you scared🤣🫵ӿ 97;

Itveds3h ago

Aww you’re hurt that they’re going back to exclusives!

The mask has slipped… we know you PS gamers LOVE Xbox games

pwnmaster30003h ago

Hurt over video games 🤣🤣

Lmao we all grew and got jobs but apparently you stayed home broke 🤣🤣.
Man I love loyal dogs like you. MS kicked Spit and slapped you around but you still come back on all 4s.

Good little boy 🤣🤣

Itveds2h ago

You’re going to have to go back to pretending you don’t like Xbox games 😂😂

Awkward

GhostScholar1h ago

My only question is what games are PlayStation gamers gonna play now? They don’t really come out with new games anymore. I’m looking forward to wolverine, but after that then what?

-Foxtrot2h ago

Lmao

There’s no way after everything it’s going back, the damage is done

What you are seeing now is the new management telling what the core fanbase (aka…you) want to hear so they are pumped full of hope and are more likely to invest in the next Xbox console

When Phil took over after the awful Xbox One reveal he did the same thing, he told people what they wanted to hear for damage control.

It’s crazy people are getting suckered into this again.

GhostScholar1h ago

I mean I always buy both systems, so none of this affects me.

CrashMania2h ago

And you'll now go back to again thinking exclusives suddenly matter, that multiplatform is no longer the future, or that revenue from multiplatforms doesn't matter, like all you flop flopping xbox grifters lol.

The whole post just sounds like the previous phil corpo slop talk to me, whole thing reads like a nothing burger lol.

Jin_Sakai1h ago

“re-evaluating exclusivity”

She also said this.

“The model that got us here won’t be the one that takes us forward.”

TriniOutsider43m ago

It must be miserable being someone like you.

Aloymetal18m ago

There's a bunch just like him but that's what happens when some rely on dreams, hope and wishful thinking. lol

isarai_lee27m ago

"pretending"? Bro gears hasnt broke 1mil on ps5, and starfield hasn't passed 200k, Hellblade 2 was even stated to be a financial disappointment in sales on its own console, let alone ps5. Im not saying people don't like them, but they certainly aren't setting the community on fire, Forza may be different tho

Aloymetal24m ago

Xbawx is ''re-evaluating exclusivity''... Translation: After throwing all sort of crap to the wall to see if something sticks but clearly nothing worked, we, including our lord ''in charge'' Phil came to the conclusion that exclusives indeed do matter so please forget if we ever said otherwise.
Yup, I feel it in my gut, next gen belongs to xbox, PS6 is cooked...

Itveds14m ago

Could be worse… they could be Sony pumping out flops like Marathon and concord 😂😂🤣

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Outside_ofthe_Box3h ago(Edited 2h ago)

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster30002h ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

Itveds2h ago

Gonna be a funny world where Xbox games are exclusive and Sony games are not lol

Outside_ofthe_Box51m ago(Edited 48m ago)

Funny world where Sony is pro consumer and Xbox is not? At least according to what you loyalists have been saying all this time 🤭

VenomUK25m ago

@itveds For how many years have you been doing this sad stuff? For how many years have you been creating fake accounts to troll? For how many years have you always been cl vnn

CrashMania2h ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

maximusprime_2h ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

BeHunted38m ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

Itveds17m ago

They don’t like talking about that

Concord… concord 2… concord 3

shadowT2h ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers1h ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

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Marathon Was One Of The Best-Selling Games In March 2026

Insider Gaming writes: "Marathon was one of the best-selling video games in March 2026 in the United States. On Wednesday, Circna released the best-selling games of the month, and it featured six new releases along with two games returning to the top 20 after previously falling out."

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92nar1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

Is it April fools day again?

The game is dead.

EDIT: the numbers are fudged. “digital sales on Nintendo and Xbox weren’t included in the data”

92nar1d 3h ago

How’s concord 2, sorry I mean marathon doing? 🤣🤣

Neonridr8h ago

well it's not on Switch / Switch 2.. so their number would be zero.

The game had a decent launch however the userbase numbers are dwindling on Steam.

1Victor8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

“ Is it April fools day again?

The game is dead.

EDIT: the numbers are fudged. “digital sales on Nintendo and Xbox weren’t included in the data”

Does it hurt you to hear a SONY game was BEST selling ?
You gotta let go of those OBCURED feelings 🤷🏿

Neonridr8h ago

I mean the only reason MLB was the best selling title was because it was multi-platform. Likewise with Marathon. Will ring true for MS games. Only Nintendo titles are truly flexing their muscles when they chart as they are only to be found there.

Outside_ofthe_Box7h ago

Can't wait to see how this is spun negatively. 😜

-Foxtrot2h ago

Yeah sure, yet the player count is no where near what they want for a AAA game with so much money behind it

Why people are trying to spin this game like it’s done overly amazing is baffling to me.

It won’t even be a blip on peoples radars by the end of the year .

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Webzen Is Trying to Block DragonSword: Awakening's Gacha-Less Steam Release; Developer Responds

The release on Steam of the anime-style gacha-less open-world RPG DragonSword: Awakening is facing a legal challenge from its gacha publisher.

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