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PS4 for free: are subscriptions console gaming’s miracle?

"Microsoft revealed a subscription Xbox 360 yesterday, a move that has enormous implications for the HD console business. Monthly payments for hardware and services could change everything, says Patrick Garratt."

BrutallyBlunt5143d ago (Edited 5143d ago )

Just think back when the Playstation 3 came out and surprised many with its whopping $600 price tag. Imagine if Sony had the foresight to think of something like this and if Playstation Plus was available then too. Consumers could have had an OPTION (the reason I use caps if to show everyone how this is an option and need to react in the same manner) to offset the high price.

It never ceases to amaze me just how emotionally involved some people get on game forums about things, especially when they are options.

thehitman5143d ago

When I bought my ps3 for 600 over a 100-200 cheaper 360. The subscription fee was 1 of the many weighing factors I decided to go w/ a more expensive console at base price then be burned after 6-8 years for another 400 dollars about.

LOGICWINS5143d ago

So true. Many people buy through impulse and don't think about future added expenses.

grailly5143d ago

for a good service, I would gladly pay 50-60$ a month, but that would have to be a service letting me play anything I want. à la netflix of gaming. and if I could get a cheaper console out of it, well great.

ilikestuff5143d ago

that'd be awesome like sega channel way back when. doubt they'd give you that much though, cheaper console, all the games you want for 50, 60 a month.

Baka-akaB5143d ago (Edited 5143d ago )

Because it is never just an option . when that kind of stuff shows up , even as an option , it affects everyone else .

Dlc was an option , and in the end it permeated through everything and every publishers , in a way that withdraw and steal contents from those that didnt care for the option . And now all of them are constantly complaining about dlc tactics . Maybe if they thought about that earlier instead of going "hey man it's an option chill , you can just avoid it" , they wouldnt need to be feel constantly that angry .

So no i'm not looking forward to that kind of subs , when it easily directly lead to models like apple and its iphone/pad . i'll ignore it , and then if its successful , as usual i'll get affected by it unwillingly .

BrutallyBlunt5143d ago (Edited 5143d ago )

Then tell us, how will this trickle down to those who want to buy a new console and not pay monthly? The answer is it won't. You can speculate all you want about how the price of the hardware will be more but you will not have any proof on that. We have already seen high prices on consoles (Playstation 3, 3DO and NeoGeo come to mind). So use this new marketing as a scapegoat all you want, fear-mongering isn't going to get you anywhere.

To think consumers could only buy a console on a monthly plan is far-fetched but then again this is N4G, where a portion of the community seems to get-off making a mountain out of a molehill.

grailly5143d ago (Edited 5143d ago )

you've got a good point, I can only hope you're wrong.

EDIT: just out of curiosity, how many of you have a phone subscription?

Lior5143d ago

people buy phone for $700 dollars or 500 pound they dont complain

Fylus5143d ago

That's because some people are stupid:P

It's funny, America makes me ashamed to be American.

TheLyonKing5143d ago

@Lior not just americans I am from U.K and import tax is higher and people pay such stupid prices for phones.

I got a pretty decent working internet/multi media phone for about 100 quid none of this waiting in a queue for hours for the brand new iphone nonsense

DeadlyFire5143d ago

I think as an Option is a great idea, but as the only way of buying a console. I say no.

ATi_Elite5143d ago (Edited 5143d ago )

this all leads to one thing..........The imminent DEATH of consoles (except Nintendo)

SOny/MS cant keep selling you $500 consoles and $60 games on top of $50 yearly online subscriptions. That business model is DEAD and will be altered greatly next Gen.

SOny and MS are eventually gonna have to utilize the things that are in everyone's home already

A. The friggin TV connected to cable/Internet
B. The Personnel Computer connect to Internet

Like i have said before i see MS integrating Xbox through Windows and Sony could easily make a special hard drive and software for it's Playstation brand.

and it's all too easy to stream the video output from your PC to a Tv with no lag (I do it all the time and play online MP games like TERA).

MMO's and Micro-transactions are the things that are helping the PC make more revenue than PS3/360 combined (consoles win once you add in Nintendo) and next Gen the consoles will have the proper power to produce more MMO's and they will further exploit the Micro-transaction set-up!

The only other option is how Sony/MS tried to make PS3/360 entertainment hubs by offering netflix/hulu/espn etc. and other stuff through the console. Well they will need a lot more content to make that work and except for Netflix i don't think any other service was that good (correct me if I'm wrong but what was as good as Netflix).

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TopDudeMan5143d ago

I'd rather just buy it and be done with it.

grailly5143d ago

you would just have a console and no games. you anyway have to pay extra for games, what if the service provided all the games you wanted?

TopDudeMan5143d ago

That, plus all the games I don't want? Too good to be true, dood.

grailly5143d ago

I dunno, netflix sounded too good to be true, 5 years ago...

Boody-Bandit5143d ago (Edited 5143d ago )

Gaming's miracle?
Early adopters would end up spending more money over the life of the console than ever before. And what is with all the comparisons between smart phones and gaming consoles? They have nothing in common with one another and are entirely different demographics.

And again with the whole "a lot of us gamers" want to download everything through digital distribution. Uh no, I don't know many gamers that want to throw their money out the window and not have any resale value or all the hassles that come with DD. As I'm sure most net providers wont be too keen on it either. Not to mention the fact that broadband does not exist every where. There are still tons of areas throughout the world and in every country that don't have access to high speed internet.

Sorry but this whole article, although well written, comes off as

TopDudeMan5143d ago

Well, the comparison is because of the idea of this new pricing strategy. Essentially, you'd be signing a contract and paying monthly for your console, the way you do with mobile phones.

Boody-Bandit5143d ago (Edited 5143d ago )

You mean MS's new way to milk people dry even further and pretending with their smoke and mirrors that it is actually cost productive.

As long as there is an option to purchase the next consoles out right than all is good. If not, I will find a new way to spend my spare time. The gaming industry has become the epitome of being nickel and dimed to death and personally I am tired of it.

Pretty soon every game made is going to be subscription based. No matter how anyone spins this it's a bad thing for consumers and will ultimately be the demise / downfall of the industry.

BrutallyBlunt5143d ago

@Brutallyhonest

Well to be brutallyhonest, services like Steam make a ****load of revenue and its service is entirely digital. They also have millions of Steam members who seem perfectly happy.

I know many complain about PC gaming and how it can be costly, well a lay-away plan could help some people. The truth of the matter is having different options is EXACTLY what consumers want.

The price to build new hardware whether it be consoles or PC's or anything else for that matter is going to rise, not fall. This new option for consoles is nothing new when compared to other purchases like a car or even a cellphone. Consumers will still have an option to buy the product for less money.

Blastoise5143d ago

Nothing is ever free. Don't believe ondores lies

NAGNEWS5142d ago (Edited 5142d ago )

costs you sleeping ;) think again, nothing is free

TBM5143d ago

Id rather foot the upfront cost of the console/service then be raped for more money for the same service. besides paying to access my own online that im already paying my cable provider for is stupid as hell.

asmith23065143d ago

Its nice to have options though. Some people might not easily have $400+ at any given time so the extra expense in the long run is worth it if it means you can get a new console straight away rather than having to wait for it. As an example I might have about 800 to pay off my credit card but I sure as hell ain't gonna pay that off in one shot, i'll pay it over months. Even if the interest adds extra cost I can afford it month to month rather than the whole thing at once.

Fez5143d ago

If you can't afford it you shouldn't be buying it. It's such a simple rule of thumb that people don't seem to understand these days.

The options seem to be screwing the poor people over and letting the rich get richer...

TBM5143d ago (Edited 5143d ago )

I respect your opinion but i personally can't see myself giving away extra money i can use for something else on a hobby i enjoy to relax.

Like Fez said if i can't afford it i won't buy it.

i asked a bunch of friends of mine who can see the bigger picture here and not one among the bunch would go for this deal.

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted41d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8540d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele40d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk40d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay40d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10141d ago (Edited 41d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit40d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg40d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10140d ago (Edited 40d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14940d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

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Reaper22_54d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle53d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker54d ago (Edited 54d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit53d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog54d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog53d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad54d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_53d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage53d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda53d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

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BlazedKong79d ago

looks god awful on the base systems