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Starhawk Hates Campers

DualShock Nexus: The latest promotional video for Starhawk attacks a certain group of people a majority of gamers despise...campers.

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Abash5139d ago

May 8th people, so hyped for Starhawk!

guitarded775139d ago

Yup... I'm just glad it's the week after finals.

LackTrue4K5139d ago

i played the beta like a month ago and i only killed a hand full with the pod. but it never crossed my mind about campers!!!

"great job there developers, you have a day one with me"

HammadTheBeast5138d ago

This game's awesome, looks like Space got a makeover since the Beta, I also saw a glimpse of Echo, and the customization seems intense. Awesome sauce.

WillGuitarGuy5139d ago (Edited 5139d ago )

That was the most rewarding thing about Starhawk back in the beta. You could have the worst game and take out someone with a revenge kill in an instant. So satisfying.

flavorbabies5139d ago

I remember Harvard saying something along the lines of this when we talked to him at PAX

basilezz30305139d ago

another reason to fall in love with starhawk

Capt-FuzzyPants5139d ago

Camping is an effective strategy. i dont get why people hate it so much. And if it really bothers people in a match why dont they just kill them?

MidnytRain5139d ago

That's the problem; it's TOO effective. Sometimes it feels like everything has to stop for that one guy. Killing them isn't always easy either. A good player can wreak havok from the nest on Syria in Uncharted 3.

Biggest5139d ago

Depends on the game. If you're defending a thing, camping makes sense. If you're attacking a thing why the hell are you hiding in a corner/hole/whatever?

Capt-FuzzyPants5139d ago (Edited 5139d ago )

It's not supposed to be easy. It's just a way to play the game. Running around with a sniper rifle in map with tight corners is just stupid. Staying in one spot is just a way to make a gun useful. And it's supposed to be effective. There is no such thing as TOO effective.

@Biggest
Your right the only time I get mad at campers is when I'm attacking something and they're on the other side of the map contributing nothing. If they're camping and still killing people for the benefit of the team then I don't really care.

Baka-akaB5139d ago

Tehn again , people dont usually call them campers when they are doing it for the team , that's kinda the point and why everyone hates them .

They are just usually there for their own stats , or find it fun to lock the game for everyone

BrutallyBlunt5139d ago

Most would agree that playing games in a tactical manner is what everyone should be doing. Problem is hardly anyone plays as a team in so many games. This is why clans are so effective.

The real issue isn't camping, it's playing team based objective games with idiots who don't want to play as a team. So many either refuse to communicate with their team or play solo. If that's the case why play team based games?

I find myself playing less and less online with strangers. It is so much more rewarding playing with people I know either personally or those who I have added to my friends list. The anonymity that plagues game forums also trickles on online services, and the tools these platforms provide to prevent bad experiences are archaic at best.

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h311rais3r5139d ago

It's effective yes but boring to fight against.

LackTrue4K5139d ago

it is an effective strategy, ..... BUT NOT WHEN YOUR SPAWN CAMPING.....and if he is getting on your nerves, go out and kill him. It cant be that hard, its clear hes lacking some skill in close combat.

BitbyDeath5139d ago

Problem is if they keep returning to that same place even after you kill them.

Then your forever fighting the same person in the exact same situation which gets boring.

MysticStrummer5139d ago

I agree, Capt. I never understand people complaining about campers. They seem to be admitting a lack of skill and intelligence. Camping is a perfectly valid tactical strategy, closing off one route and forcing the other team to try something else. Campers can be dealt with if a team works together, which is the real problem, because a list of the most popular games proves people prefer mindless run and gun over tactical team play.

Baka-akaB5139d ago (Edited 5139d ago )

If tactical play was the motivation for those guys , then they shouldnt have any issues with anti camping mechanics . After all it will just be another layer of obstacles to strategize around :p .

It's a contrived excuse imo ... i've yet to encounters many people doing it for strategic reasons , and when they do we hardly call them campers , they are just doing their jobs as snipers . Not necessarily abusing maps flaws and respawn zones .

Ducky5139d ago

Camping is a perfectly reasonable tactic, however, there are same games where bad map design leads to campers having an unfair advantage.
(i.e. a map having one hallway as a choke point, where a camper can easily rack up kills)

Rather than blame the map design, people would rather blame the camping player... and will keep on rushing head on and dying over and over in frustration.

It's up to the game to create a balance between rushers and campers; judging from the video, Starhawk's devs are trying to do that.

smashcrashbash5139d ago

Playing cheap is an effective strategy but what is the point? just to say that you won? What satisfaction does that give anyone? That you hid in a corner and killed people? People that do anything to win including playing cheaply and cheating to me are pathetic.Show that all you are good at is running away and hiding

Capt-FuzzyPants5139d ago

I just don't understand how it's cheap. The only time I camp is in Uncharted when I'm sniping in the corner of the map. People still kill me. Yes I agree with when people are camping to kill people as they spawn is cheap that is just exploiting a flaw in design but when it is reasonable there is no problem in my mind.

Outside_ofthe_Box5139d ago (Edited 5139d ago )

I don't mind snipers camping from waaaay back only if sniping is actually challenging in the game. Most games these days don't have the sniper's breath and lens glare effect. They also don't make moving the crosshairs slow enough for sniper rifles. Hell, in some games it's possible to run and gun with a sniper rife due to that very reason.

Beside it's not just snipers that camp. You can have someone with an assault rifle in a room waiting for someone to come through the door and kill. I call this a cheap tactic more than an effective strategy. If everyone were to camp this way the game would go nowhere. Camping is such a boring way to play.

GrandTheftZamboni5139d ago

Plus it's probably a growing stage for new players. When I started playing Warhawk, my first online game, I didn't know any better but to guard the flag. I never cared about my personal score and K/D ratio though. When I got more skills and learned from others about objectives other than just making a kill, I went further on the map. I kind of appreciate that some guys do stay close to guard the flag.

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From the cosmos to crash-landing back on good old planet Earth, come read through the best sci-fi-nastically games on the PS3

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zaanan772d ago

Not a single Reistance? Fuck this article.

mastershredder772d ago (Edited 772d ago )

Starhawk over Warhawk?...... Dude, NO ONE should listen to you.

Odd choices for "best" more like you settled as these being the "best" that available to you at the time, cause a lot of these blow or were average to poor performers that ended up in bargain bin.

Missing too many great sci-fi titles here. The Void, The Resistance Series, Killzone 2 and 3, Enslaved, man.. there were so many, this is redicu-list.

FreeckyCake772d ago

Nobody should listen to you either with that attitude.

OtterX771d ago

I agree that Starhawk shouldn't be above Warhawk, however I must say that Starhawk multiplayer was incredible for its time! Many people wrote it off bc the single player was quite terrible, bc it was basically 1 huge tutorial for the multiplayer. But I can tell you never spent any significant amount of time in MP. It was doing incredibly tense base building w air, foot and land vehicle (and mech!) combat long before Fortnite was ever a thing.

I bet it would have been much better received if it had just ditched the story mode all together. So many people like yourself completely wrote it off based on reviews by reviewers that let the criticism of single player weigh heavily on their scores. I bet you didn't even play it.

Friendlygamer772d ago

The riddick games are some of the best stealth titles ever, highly underrated

YourMommySpoils772d ago

What games? All recall plating was Escape from Butcher Bay.

Friendlygamer772d ago (Edited 772d ago )

There's also the less acclaimed 'assault on dark Athena'

( also, not saying this to you specifically but there's both resistance and killzone games on the list, it's amazing how even something so simple and innocent as a game list can be turned into misinformed vitriol here lol )

jznrpg772d ago

Glad to see Resonance of Fate. Enslaved was pretty good too. I’m sure there are others nobody has listed but I’m too tired to try and think of anything

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I miss Dark Cloud I mean damn, Dark Cloud 2 is one of the best Action RPG game ever made. The game have: Rich Worlds, different setting, tons of contents, vareity in gameplay like never before (and even after), best buliding mechanics, crafting system like no one did and finally impressive graphics.

Most underrated game ever. It deserved the popularity and sales of Zelda and Final Fantasy. ut unfortunately, Level-5 and Sony didn't advertise it at all.

titans99991848d ago

My franchises I wish would make a come back, are Battlefront by pandemic studios - galactic conquest was the best, mercenaries 1 and 2, and prototype 1 and 2...great games!

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