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Wii U "competitive position has deteriorated"

Wii U will launch later this year (one rumored date points to November 18) and Nintendo is hoping to make a big splash with the system this year at E3 in June. Many questions about the console's capabilities still linger, however, and one analyst in Japan is not too optimistic about Wii U's long-term prospects.

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DarkSniper5188d ago (Edited 5188d ago )

Wii-U garnered interest across the gaming industry for it's next generation advertisements and intriguing design of their new controller when it was announced at E3 last year.

Things have changed within those 12 months and the truth has finally been revealed. In Dark Sniper's humble opinion, Nintendo's "next-generation" console will launch with the Nintendo loyalists obviously being first in line to purchase their new product. Which is perfectly fine. But the market that they're aiming for is not there.

Nintendo has this idea that it's still 2006. When the Wii was launched, Nintendo was well aware that they were giving the market a brand new remote controller updated with slightly improved Gamecube graphics and called it a day. While other competitors were selling their systems at a loss, Nintendo gained profit on their Wii console sales. The reason being is because Nintendo sold the Wii at a higher price than it took to manufacture the console itself.

Dark Sniper reminds you that it is 2012 and Nintendo is trying the same exact business structure AGAIN. The difference is that the current generation of consoles have a strong establishment in the common household. The casual market that Nintendo needs for their next system to be successful is not there anymore. Releasing a "next-generation" console with graphics inferior to both PlayStation®3 and Xbox 360 is unacceptable by today's standards. Which makes sense as to why analysts believe that the Wii-U is deteriorating in terms of consumer and developer interest.

Furthermore, if the rumors are true. Nintendo will be launching the Wii-U dead on arrival if third-party companies such as Activision are not supporting them. Call of Duty is a billion dollar IP and it will hurt Nintendo more than it would help them by not having it on their platform.

Dark Sniper remembers what happened with Sega after Electronic Arts refused to support the Dreamcast. Hopefully Nintendo will reach out to third parties and assist them with development on their new console.

The combination of third party support and exclusives is the key to winning next generation. Both are imperative to next gen success. We will have more knowledge after E3 to see if the Wii-U will be able to swim the sharks, or drown in misery.

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limewax5188d ago (Edited 5188d ago )

Do you seriously have to talk in third person the whole time? It's just about the most egocentric thing possible.

But in reference to your actual post, where did you get that the wii is weaker than the PS3/360? It was proved ages ago that it has about 6 times the power of the current consoles. Including a Power7 processor which alone will put it ahead of the current gen. All good sources are saying its more powerful. All sources which can't be named are saying it's weaker. You seriously going to believe a nameless person over many different developers?

dark-hollow5188d ago

I can't wait till e3 arrives when the wii turn actually to be quite powerful and you all will look like fools.

Dark115188d ago

What if sony/ms announce their next gen consoles
who will look like fool?

yep it is Nintendo.

dark-hollow5188d ago

MS? The one who want to chase the casual crowd?
Or Sony? Who said they won't go bleeding edge tech this time?

Admit it, all three companies have equal chance or releasing the weakest hardware.

shackdaddy5188d ago

@Dark Sony and MS already announced like three times this year that there are no plans to announce their next console at E3.

BattleAxe5188d ago

Wii U "competitive position has deteriorated"

Big time!

firefoxprime5188d ago (Edited 5188d ago )

@DarkSniper:

Here's whats stupid.

A guy basing his views/opinions off rumors. No crebile source of information. RUMORS. Speculation is one thing, but this??? Is just a piece of sh*t.

Wait till E3 before you open your mouth you fool. Then we'll ALL get the OFFICIAL answers.

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StraightedgeSES5188d ago

Seriously why do you talk in third person?

InTheLab5188d ago

You make these forums that much more interesting....

Well done.

Starbucks_Fan5188d ago

Do you really think anyone's gonna read your stupid wall of texts?!

Get out.

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christheredhead5188d ago (Edited 5188d ago )

"1. Wii U GPU is less powerful than Xbox360/PS3 according to developers, which means it has no edge besides the tablet interface to attract core users. Initial third-party titles are likely to be only ports from Xbox360/PS3 titles. A bundled WiiSports/Mario title may help initial sales beat Wii launch, but Wii was severely production-constrained and the surprise factor from Wii U is less."

- According to developers the GPU is also more powerful than 360/PS3, so which is true? Its pretty likely that the initial titles will be ports, but I doubt they would be run of the mill. I mean, there would have to be some sort of tablet integration I would think, which would add different options and or experiences/features. Could broaden up the choice a bit when picking up a 3rd party title. Maybe Nintendo might implement some sort of trophy/achievement system as well? That would be cool.

"2. iPad with its retina display shows where Apple is taking its 4 screen infrastructure, leaving Wii U less connected and less relevant. The GPU processing power for handsets is reaching consoles such that we think core gamers have no interest in buying into the Wii U. Apple might add in a controller to its line-up to be more attractive to core users. MocoSpace survey shows that 96% of gamers like to play their games at home, and with a better infrastructure we think iOS will be able to deliver a single game experience across four screens that Nintendo cannot."

- That's great and all for Apple, but were talking about video games here. Apple isn't even in the console market. They just supply the app store, via the Ipad. Its not like they are actually churning out full fledged, in depth, single player and multiplayer games. I like some of the games offered, but its not that same. Not even close. They both have tablets, but it would come down to software in the end. No one will be picking up the Ipad based on the sole decision that it is better than a Wiiu/PS4/720. "Welp, I bought the new Ipad, no Mario/Uncharted/Halo for me." Yah, not gonna happen.

"3. Wii U will have 1-year window to gain installed base before PS4 (Orbis) and then Xbox Durango launch in late 2013. At that point, the core gamer that Nintendo is after for the first time will have no interest in Wii U. We understand that Activision has no plans to support Wii U, which means the biggest selling title of Call of Duty will be missing; Konami is also planning minimal support."

- Who said people would be disinterested when PS4/720 launches? I mean, why do I have to choose? Maybe some people would like to wait a bit or buy all 3? Consoles usually sell strong well into their lifetime as the gaming libraries expand, prices drop and bundles/upgraded SKUs become available. Its not like it would be the end of the line within a one year time frame. Lastly, Activision will be releasing every single COD game on the Wiiu, you have to be kidding yourself to think they wont.

If you happen to be reading this Macquarie Capital Securities, I would be interested in starting with you're company as soon as possible. I could be a much more viable and competent analyst. Feel free to contact me with salary information.

PopRocks3595188d ago

You forgot to mention that this article outright LIED about Activision not supporting the Wii U. Activision already stated that they will support the Wii U.

http://www.gamespot.com/new...

http://www.gamesthirst.com/...

Anyone who believes this article at face value is a fucking moron.

Indigo1235188d ago

best to ignore analysts, they no less than janitors when it comes to gaming

Khordchange5188d ago

How can anyone make a prediction when none of us know jack s*** about it?

Knushwood Butt5188d ago

Pretty sure that fits the definition of a prediction just fine.

PopRocks3595188d ago

Predictions should be educated guesses, not mental leaps of faith. If you don't know anything about what you're predicting then don't make a prediction at all.

When you ASSUME, you make an ASS out of U and ME.

Knushwood Butt5188d ago

An assumption is not the same thing as a prediction.

It wasn't me that wrote the dictionary..

Ness-Psi5188d ago

I swear these website are making shit up, just because there has been no official WiiU news for a while. it's like their all got cabin fever or something.

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Relientk7779d ago (Edited 79d ago )

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Nintendo Suing U.S. Government Over Tariffs

Nintendo filed a lawsuit in the United States Court of International Trade.

Nintendo of America is suing the United States government over the sweeping tariffs President Donald Trump put in place last year, according to a complaint filed Friday in the U.S. Court of International Trade and obtained by Aftermath.

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Deathdeliverer104d ago

Well dayum lol. Old agent orange pissing off every industry and nation.

0hMyGandhi103d ago

The fact that you have ANY disagrees will forever baffle me. And to the (apparent) MAGA contingent that exists on this website, enjoy your 8-9 dollar gas.

AuraAbjure103d ago (Edited 103d ago )

Yes, they had better be pissed after Trump told them the way they rip off the USA is over.

EveryPlatformGamer104d ago

LOL I read this on gaff, will they refund the money back to the gamers? highly unlikely. Didn't they just raise prices and pass it onto the gamers? Only Nintendo would send out the Ninjas to the US government.

-Foxtrot104d ago

That’s what I was thinking, imagine them winning hypothetically, getting a s**t load of money back which they would have lost if they hadn’t raised their prices and it’s business as normal.

It would just mean people paid more for no reason since they got the money back anyway.

Outside_ofthe_Box104d ago (Edited 104d ago )

A lot of companies partially passed the cost to consumers instead of all of it. They would still have to at least pay that back to gamers, but we know that won't happen. What's also sad is that prices won't come back down after the initial hike caused by tariffs.

People didn't understand the full repercussions of tariffs. That alone should have cost him the presidency if people knew it was a permanent price hike for consumers

Inverno104d ago

The people should sue these companies for having to over pay cause of these tariffs.

Eonjay104d ago

Naw they should sue the government for forcing the tax to begin with. No one reasonably expects these companies to absorb the taxes. Many smaller companies tried and were shut down or faced to increase prices to try to maintain their business. The tariffs effect everyone.

Inverno102d ago

I meant it mostly as a joke cause we all know the costs of these tariffs were passed onto the consumer. But it's seems no matter how vocal we are here in the states our "representatives" don't seem to care enough to represent us. And things are about to get worse.

Killer2020UK103d ago

The companies were doing what the law required then to do, the tariffs however were illegally implemented. Usually it's criminals we punish, you seem to have different ideas 🤷‍♂️

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