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Xbox 720 & PS4 Specs 'Must Deliver Maximum Computing Power' - Epic

Xbox 720 and PS4 specs must step up the computing potential of next-gen consoles to stay relevant, says Epic Games.

Xbox 720 and PS4 must deliver to their fullest potential in the next generation to match the challenges of the games industry, according to Epic Games founder Tim Sweeney.

Both Xbox 720 and PS4 hare yet to be unveiled, but Sweeney believes that whatever comes next for Microsoft and Sony will really have to raise the bar.

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LX-General-Kaos5184d ago (Edited 5184d ago )

Maximum specs are not needed for the future of consoles. Yes they are very welcome, but not needed. Nintendo has proven that. What is needed are AAA exclusive titles, new innovations, and for 3rd party to keep up with 1st party exclusives. Also for the games to actually look like the tech demos that are being shown to the public when completed. Many times we have seen tech demos and CG videos passed off as in game. Or the final product.

People and devs get too excited and over hype specs every generation. Nothing ever lives up to whats promised by all of the over the top tech demos.On a graphical or technical standpoint anyway.

examples.. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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Even in 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Hopefully this E3 the devs show us what they can really do with the power given to them. Not a show full of lies and false promise.

They need to remain silent and just wait to show us what they have. The truth this time.

Rated E For Everyone

Shok5184d ago

It's all about the games.

gypsygib5183d ago (Edited 5183d ago )

Which in terms of 3rd parties, AAA games have been painfully absent from Wii because it lacks the hardware power to pull it off.

It's true that you don't need power to sell consoles, but you do need it to advance gaming experiences, otherwise Nintendo wouldn't even need to release a more powerful Wii U.

Also, the majority of the best games this gen were 3rd party and not on Wii. Apparently, what is most important for a consoles success is marketing, not power, not games.

Saying power isn't needed is BS imo.

cjflora5183d ago (Edited 5183d ago )

I agree that good games are necessary for success, but the whole point of a new generation is to provide improvements. The whole reason I buy a new system is because it can do what my current gen system can't. Be it graphics or whatever. If the games themselves were the only consideration, there wouldn't be a point to putting out something new. Just keep making really good games on the current systems. No, the next gen needs something the the current gen can't do.

Following the trend of game generations, we've all grown up with the understanding that the next system will have increased graphics, so it's clear why this is one of the expected improvements of a next gen system. This gen probably saw one of the biggest jumps in innovation when you consider motion control, built in network connectivity and storage, and the fact that some of the consoles are just overall media centers.

I'm personally concerned with the success of the Wii because I personally don't find motion control to be the innovation that I want in my consoles and I hope it doesn't influence the next gen to go after the casuals and leave me behind.

SephirothX215184d ago

Of course it is all about the games as people here are saying in the comments but better hardware means less limitations for developers to make wonderful games and a greater chance that many people will be able to play the game they always dreamed of. Even forget games running in native 1080p or higher at 60fps, who doesn't want more characters on screen, faster loading times and better looking worlds. Take GTA for example. Go to a high building in GTA IV even on a good pc and look down through the scope of a sniper and you will see few cars or people , if any, on the streets. Now imagine looking down and seeing a packed street full of cars and people, shooting someone in the head, getting into your helicopter and flying to the ground and noticing their body still there.

Now imagine dragging that body into an alleyway and doing awful things to it. Ah got you there.

Mr Tretton5184d ago

If they throw out $600 systems again that have 'max power' for the time, they will both fall to Nintendo once again, and both will lose billions.

Not gonna happen this time. PS4 and XB3 will be just a little more powerful than Wii U. This also means we won't have to wait so long for the next gen after.

Do you want to pay $600 at launch for a 7-8 year system, or $300-$400 for a 5 year system? I'd rather a console be scaled back a little, and therefore cheaper, so that you don't have to sit on an old console waiting for the makers, spending extra years trying to make their money back and catch up to the competition. 5-6 years is a good sweet spot for a console cycle.

When we reach the graphical wall that divides economic sense, then we'll have that decade long console, where things look CGI-like, then there won't be a need. We aren't quite there yet.

Consoles being 'bleeding edge' does not work. It's why consoles used to be traditionally scaled back in the past. This gen, Sony and MS tried to bite off more than they could chew, while little Nintendo walked away laughing.

As a graphics lover myself, I still always remember, great games > the amount of pixels in a game. Something that not only some gamers, but some developers, unfortunately forget.

TenkoTAiLS5183d ago

Well said!! There's old games that people re-play and buy in classic compilations not because they have good graphics, but because they have great gameplay which still stands to this day!

If you want bleeding edge graphics you buy or play on a PC as a console will never be as powerful as the computers used to make and design the games. Consoles with high end tech would just be too expensive for the generic consumer. Every time a company releases a tech heavy console at the premium price they do terribly untill they lower the price, even when they launch with some outstanding games, and they take a loss.

It's time they worried less about what tech goes into the console are more time on presenting more triple A games. Sure newer tech can provide a better field for creating those games, but when an average consumer sees a $600 price tag they won't even give it a second glance. It's a sad state of affairs when cheap indie games and cell phone games are getting more positive reviews and giving us more full and enjoyable game experiences on limited small budgets than the big companies games that we pay $60 for and then they nickel and dime us with DLC :/

cjflora5183d ago (Edited 5183d ago )

I would rather pay for longevity. $600 for 7-10 years is pretty good considering. You can't buy a PC for that amount and expect it to last more than 2-3 years.

Think about it. If $600 lasts you for 10 years, and $400 lasts you 5 years, at the end of that 10 years you are paying more. Like the iPad. I would rather pay to get all of the features in one iPad rather than get yearly new releases with a few new features and have to buy it all over again.

The world we live in has become too impatient. Everyone wants the new and better stuff right now, so they'll settle for sub par things in order to get it cheaper and faster. I would rather pay for longevity.

Rainstorm815183d ago

I agree i dont know why you have so many disagrees.

The Apple/COD generation of gamers wants new and wants it now, I also prefer longevity. Funny thing about Epic is they keep backing apple which require you to buy a new 600$ iPad every 2 years or so.

Its so funny how people say 500/600 consoles will fail yet there is a large group that thinks iPads can replace consoles.....Wheres the logic??

DeadlyFire5183d ago

They could still maximize power and keep the bill under $500 bucks for us. Still its not a bad price for a guaranteed 10 year platform, but if you think about the multiplayer games which servers only last 2 years at most. Some up to 4 with only peer to peer. The day when you can own and run your own server and have game titles that last 5-10 years on their own. Ah wait there is a PC platform for that. You get what you pay for. I have had PCs that last 6-8 years. Honestly its hard to make one last past 6-7 years playing new games, but its possible. A CPU can last 10 years. A GPU can last 5 at best. RAM needs to be bumped up at least every 4 years. Considering all of that upgrades cost about $300-500 bucks every 5 years. No more than a new console.

Still though the only reason PS3 was $600 bucks at launch is because of Blu-Ray and that still sent them in the red $300 bucks per unit for awhile.

Lowest spec for WiiU will be Power7 12 threads 4 core CPU and a 1 Tflop GPU. That is what I am betting on anyway.

I expect PS4 and Xbox 3 to feature 24 or 32 threads, multiple core CPUs, and a 1.5-2.5 Tflop GPU. Although 2.5 Tflop is unlikely due to heat. Its still a possibility.

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Skynetone5183d ago (Edited 5183d ago )

my guess they will have about a quarter of the power of a gtx 580, but will still be pumping out graphics close to a gtx 580 with efficient coding etc

but how knows what sony/ms have in mind

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio24d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing24d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9224d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit24d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing24d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9224d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted27d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8526d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele26d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk26d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay26d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10126d ago (Edited 26d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit26d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg26d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10125d ago (Edited 25d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14926d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay26d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn226d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn226d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown26d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay26d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay26d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac25d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger26d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300026d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde26d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde26d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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