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Does the Next Xbox Need a Disc Drive?

A little feature asking should MS go digital only with their next console.

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EVILDEAD3605177d ago

Yes..but if the discless drive is another SKU then so be it.
If it is the ONLY SKU then the 720 is in for a looong bumpy road to failure.

Evil

Abash5177d ago

More like they are laying out a red carpet to failure for the 720. There is no way inn hell Im re-buying all my 360 games to play them digital

Army_of_Darkness5176d ago (Edited 5176d ago )

that MS plans on releasing a discless 720 model for the non hardcore gamers that only want kinect crap and netflix, obviously for cheaper, but I don't see the point in that since blurays and smart tv's can stream Netflix and apps now.... but I'm guessing the price point might attract parents so who knows...
Then they have the more expensive model with a disc drive, HDD and all that good stuff for the serious gamers..

Just don't be a hardcore gamer thats broke or stingy! LOL!

okay, found the article:
http://www.gametrailers.com...

Boody-Bandit5176d ago (Edited 5176d ago )

For me it's simple.
No disc drive, no purchase.
I am not buying games that have no trade in or resell value of any kind. Most people part with their games once they grow tired, complete or just need some additional funds to get new games or recoup some cash in general.

I'm not worried about it though because MS is anything but stupid and a move to digital only would be sub moronic.

kreate5176d ago

'MS is anything but stupid'

I agree :)

Mikhail5177d ago

Spot on, I cant do full digital since the broadband speeds in my country are not up to par. Well, this is still a rumor so there are more necessary information that is withheld (around 99% information).

JsonHenry5176d ago

This would be bad for console gamers. It would completely eliminate used games.

brettyd5176d ago

Well yea...that's kinda the point..

Hanif-8765176d ago

It could be the next Microsoft or Sony console.. it doesn't matter, if it doesn't have a disc drive then its a no no because digital distribution only for me doesn't work.

Livin_in_a_box5176d ago

I think the PSP Go has at least shown Sony that the market isn't yet ready for an online-only distribution service. If they decide to have another stab at it (or anyone, for that matter) as the only SKU available on a home console then it would be a very bad move.

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BattleTorn5177d ago

I don't really think it does. I'm just imagining a Xbox Live that's more like Steam.

Fylus5176d ago

The purpose of a console is to not have to wait 3-6 hours to play your game. All digital would be a mistake.

cervantes995176d ago

3-6 hours :)

It's more like 3-6 days for me - still trying to download ME3 from PSN!

Downloading from PSN is an exercise in patience (7pm - 11pm mainly) - Xbox Live is not bad at all. Sony needs to add more servers or quit throttling my downloads!!!

Fylus5176d ago

Im with you there. I wasted 60 dollars on the digital version of ME3 because it refuses to download. I try to redownload it every day and it just freezes up or gets an error code during installation and it's driving me crazy!

...I wanna play it so bad... :(

BattleTorn5176d ago

Downloading from the PSN, compared to Xbox Live is like Night-to-Day.

Fylus5176d ago

In case my disagree'er thought I'm hating on Sony, that isn't the case. I mean, the only console I own is a PS3. Is it illegal for me to say something slightly negative about the PlayStation Network if I just so happen to actually be having a serious issue downloading a game? So I apologize, but I don't understand the disagree I got.

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MrBeatdown5176d ago (Edited 5176d ago )

If this is the way MS is going, I might as well skip the next Xbox and hope that Steam Box comes to fruition, mainly because Steam knows how to put on a good sale, and they have a massive established library.

There is no way I'm going the digital download route unless pricing blows the hard copy price right out of the water. I doubt the same company that has issues with developers releasing content for free and charges for online play is a company that's going to offer compelling price points, especially in comparison to all the deals you can get on disc-based games these days.

But going digital download only seems far too stupid for anyone to attempt. Not only would it limit the market Microsoft would have, but stores, especially GameStop, would have far less incentive to push it over competing consoles.

Plus, marketing your console as a great media center doesn't work so well when you can't play DVDs, Blu-Rays, or any disc-based Xbox games, and all your media services are locked behind a subscription.

Valve could get away with a Steam Box since it would do nothing but grow their business. The complete opposite is true for Microsoft.

Whore_Mouth5177d ago

I'm copy pasta from a similar story I commented on for a third time.

"If Xbox were to go all digital, two things will be expected to happen.

1) Sony, Nintendo, and any speculated console (sans Valve's rumored "Steam Box") would dominate the market by continuing to offer the hard copies of games. I predict that these companies would be given the edge in a market that may not be ready for such a shift in how we obtain our products.

2) Microsoft could be expecting to see the price in game manufacturing increase, as is the norm in console iterations. MS could be deciding that by offering a digital copy over a hard copy that they can keep the price down in their favor. Given that by the continuing pattern of inflation, we would be looking at games starting at $75-$85 per disc. This would bring their sales down substantially.

This is also not taking into account that discs cannot hold that much data, by today's standards."

GraveLord5176d ago

Does it need a disc drive? NO.

However it does need physical media. Blu-Ray or Cartridges or it will fail.

BitbyDeath5176d ago

It'll be fine as long as it wants the sales of the PSP-GO.
I don't think any company will be dumb enough to do that again.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio12d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing12d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9212d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit12d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing12d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9212d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay14d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn214d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn214d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown14d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay14d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay14d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac13d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger14d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300014d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde14d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde14d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7515d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_13d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.