After years of dominance of the football genre, have Konami finally slipped up? Avid Gamer investigate in this review as to what extent the above statement is true. They look at all sides of the game in this review.
This Is My Joystick NEW Celebrity Games Columnist OJ Borg Laments The Death Of The PS2.
The power of the PS2 was the social aspect; that dragged Gamers in. Nowadays we don’t need to see, smell or entertain our friends as we have Xbox Live and the shabby PS3 online thing, but back then, we used to have to be in the same room to play these games. This wasn’t a new thing, but the games just made it all-encompassing.
Games like Tekken Tag Tournament were great for a night of lazy boozing and gaming. Track and Field with a Multi-Tap was where we would give different names to the competition, depending on who was there (“AAA” if it was the poorer player’s, right up to an Olympics once every four weeks). We even had a little drugs scandal, when we decided to ban the use of socks on fingers to help mash the buttons.
The PS2 was a once in a lifetime machine, but honestly I hadn't seen a new one available here in the states in almost 5 years. The news that they have ceased production worldwide is basically symbolic.
The epic fight between the two soccer giants Pro Evolution Soccer and FIFA has been going on for over 10 years now. Cynamite takes a look at the scores from both games and shows, at which point PES overtook the FIFA series.
PS1/PS2 - PES by far
360/PS3 - FIFA by far
I can't see that changing until the next generation of consoles.
Fifa 10 was good, but have you seen Fifa 11? NOt that much of a step up from 10. Pro Evo 2010 was not that good, but so far, what I've seen of Pro Evo 2011 blows anything and everything Fifa out of the water.
Pro Evo is back to reclaim the number 1 spot.
just because pes has improved alot over pes 10 dont mean much, its still the same robotic game it has been for a while. and if you have played fifa 10 then moved to 11 its improved on a lot on what was already a great game.
agreed, pes11 is an improvement on last yr but it still lags way behind fifa at this point.. all the same issues that make it bad are still their
pes was good till 2011
it's a fail - they tried to change the gameplay for good but they ruined it
It's a shame that people such as yourself are still stuck in the dark days, clinging onto the hope that PES will be what it once was.
I was a huge fan of PES back in the day - as big as you could get, really - and I still believe that PES 5 and 6 are the best football games of all time. But I played the PES 2011 demo and deleted it after two games, because it's just horrible. Passing is decent, but that's about it; the player movement still borders on robotic, shooting is way too floaty and the presentation is mediocre.
If you really believe that the 'King' is back, then you must have a very short memory. PES this generation has absolutely nothing on the old games, nor does it have anything on FIFA this gen either; its rival is superior in almost every way.
It's actually a step down, they ruined the Fifa 10 formula and this is coming from a Fifa player. Am not a PES fan so i really don't know if the new one is good or not. My angle is the fact that EA messed up Fifa 11, i have spoken to many diehard fifa fans that feel the same way. Some are considering to just stick with 10 and see what 12 is like.
FIFA 11 is superior to FIFA 10 in practically every way, without a doubt. I find it laughable that anyone could think any different.
FIFA 10 was a great game, but it had way too many flaws. FIFA 11 is a much more refined experience, and is all the better for it.
2000 - 2005 -> PES dominated since the PS1 days but then it came PES 2006 it was a major letdown
2006 - NOW -> Fifa started to show its quality on this current gen and it evolved year after year while PES was still way behind.
A shame that games like "This is football" just vanished during the PS2 days
pes2011 is much different from any next gen pes, this is really a huge improvement
Its funny to read or talk to the FIFA fanboy they cant accept the true and hate PES.
If you go to the FIFA forums they talk Bs. About pes and they hate it.
In the Pes forums they respect Fifa and many will be getting the two and we aré confidente that PES11 is better and the kind is back
Boomtown writes: "No rivalry in the world of gaming is fiercer than the one between competing football franchises. It almost mirrors the strength of feeling people have for their club. Crossing the divide to support another franchise is a relatively rare occurrence. There are two major derby matches in the football gaming calendar and they feature a bitter enmity which has built up over the last few years. The first is Pro Evolution versus FIFA and the second is Championship Manager versus Football Manager."
yup i agree with everything they said. i was a fan of pro evo since ISS and ISS PRO. i even pre ordered pro evo 2008. but this last one bah... mmajor flop for seabass and his crew. i wont switch to fifa becaus of it's arcade style of game but im open to sugestions eheheh.
ps - im not talking about frame rates or graphics. im talking about GAMEPLAY
i've got pes 2008 on my 360, and fifa on my ps3, and pes is far more arcadey now in my opinion. Fifa is now more of an attritional game - the defenses are very solid and hard to break down, even though neat passing undoes them a bit too easily. The football in fifa just isnt fluid - in pro evo you feel stringing some passes together is attractive football - in fifa its very stuttery - the runs players make arent that great so you're playing to feet too much. Fifa, in my view has lost its "one man takes on entire team and scores" approach - that is completely impossible now. Its still not as good as pro evo, but for very different reasons now...
PES is still the better game in my opinion - if i'm honest the only aspect of the game that really dissappoints me is the goalkeepers. They are truly shocking. I've conceded countless goals from soft shots bouncing out of the keepers hands. To shout so much about the AI improvements found in the game and then forget to apply the same level of attention to the goalkeepers is unforgivable.