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1UP: Heated Debate On Home

The 1UP podcast is considered by many the best of its kind on the Internet today, and this week's episode does not disappoint. Shane, the 1UP offices' only fan of Sony, and Garnett get entangled in a fierce explosive argument regarding the console wars; more specifically, the Online infrastructure of the consoles. Live and, coming soon, PlayStation Home.

The calm before the storm starts at the 2hour, 15min and 50second mark on the podcast. Tune in.

Blademask6731d ago

1up is trying to become sort of an MTV-esque media source. There is too much drama, and way too many douchebags involved.

Meus Renaissance6731d ago (Edited 6731d ago )

Shane: "You know what..FUK YOU for trying to dismiss me as a troll!".

I could sense the debate was heated but I was shocked at how tasty it got with that.

gamesR4fun6731d ago (Edited 6731d ago )

man these guys are total wankers just cant stand listening to their crapcast They are so biased on some stuff you got to ask if they have any morals at all.
Not only that but I swear these punks have a combined iq that wouldb reach the double digits. IMO people who would sell their mothers soul for a little swag.

To say their respected is a laugh unless your a blind fanboi or on the take

edit no offence Meus just that whole highly respected thing is soo wrong...

Kleptic6731d ago

ha yeah...the summary at the top says "considered by many to be the best of its kind on the internet today?"...should have continued with "if you are an idiot and are unaware of that other sites have podcasts"...

hell even gamespot has a better podcast...at least GS tries to remain neutral for the most part...1up just downplays everything that isn't "their" company...which we are all well aware of who that is...

marinelife96730d ago

The gist of the podcast is that 1up guys are criticizing Sony for not releasing a product when it isn't completely done. They want Sony to release an incomplete product I guess because they are impatient.

One guy even mentions that Xbox live didn't have much when it was first released (like a lot of microsoft products service packs anyone?) so why can't Sony do the same thing.

Then they try to level the false accusation that you will only be able to play online games with friends through home. Even when the guy tries to explain that you will be able to do both they pretend not to hear and rant about the exclusion anyway.

The kicker is the guy that was the most critical hadn't even played the home beta and he is arguing with someone who has.

crank6730d ago

1up is known for being anti sony. Apparently, some would rather developers HINT HINT release there **** waay too early, eventually ending up dead last because they forgot to future proof and do things right the first time.

I guess, future proofing is just so totally inane these days.

Gotta love the douchebags.

gamesR4fun6730d ago

pod casts 2 long but the sony home bit its in the last 5 10 mins.

pretty lame even pro sony dude sounds more like the bad cop in the bad and badder cop routine well throw in a touch of retardation and you get the picture.

Lifendz6730d ago

I can sorta see both points that led to the whole outburst. Garnet just couldn't get it in his head that Home is not neccessary to play online with friends. Sony has said from the outset that Home will not be a mandatory download. And the other host stated Sony is trying to give C w/o doing A and B which I couldn't disagree with more. The reason we don't have Home yet is because Sony is trying to get A & B-in game XMB-down packed. Once that happens, then I'm sure Home will be unveiled.

I've already started bringing music on my PS3 HDD in anticpation for Home and GTA IV and I'm excited to use my media in my apartment.

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Meus Renaissance6731d ago (Edited 6731d ago )

I think the entire argument here is based on whether or not Home will have a feature where you can join multiplayer games without launching the actual Home virtual world application. Garnett is under the assumption that it will not, and so criticises the idea of Home without that simple feature (he refers to it as the Xbox Live model/experience).

Shane is caught up between asserting that Home will have that model, but that it will also build on the Live model by providing a social 3D environment, and at the same time trying to defend the idea of Home without having such a feature.

But good points are bought up and it will cause you to think twice about Home, whether you were all for it or against it.

crank6730d ago (Edited 6730d ago )

Very nice overview.

Edit: oops, that was to Cerulean, but, uh, yeah, they are lame.

CeruleanSky6731d ago (Edited 6731d ago )

"The 1UP podcast is considered by many the best of its kind on the Internet today"

LOL!

Best what? Best Xbox fanboy site? Best site doing damage control for Microsoft?

1Up is the site that:

* Handed out a 9/10 to the complete turd of a game PDZ on the 360.

* After the realtime Killzone 2 unveiling tried to tell gamers the game looked worse than crappy old Gears of War - even though the game looks virtually shot for shot identical in detail as the original 2005 trailer that everyone claimed wouldn't be possible until the PS4

* Did their best to salvage the last gen looking sub-HD/640p Halo 3 by trying to claim it had some sort of 'subtle beauty' that apparently only they were skilled enough to appreciate

* Out of the blue invented an inane and bogus 'AI award' that they, guess!, gave to Halo 3 and, guess!, trashed Killzone 2. Even though Killzone 2 was nothing more than a pre-alpha graphics demo. Shortly after that pathetic bit of 1Up Xbox fanboyism someone made a video showing the horrendously bad Halo 3 AI...

* Trashed Killzone Liberation on the PSP - which is universally regarded as one of the best PSP action games. Gotta protect that POS Halo franchise at all costs...

* Functions as a stepping stone for Xbox fanboys to get hired away to Microsoft - 3 to 4 1Up people have been hired away to Microsoft in just the last year or so. 0 people either Nintendo or Sony...

* Out of the blue decided that for the amazing PS3 PSN game Warhawk they would suddenly take into account price for the game in review scores and 'mark down' the PS3 game which they, suprise!, never have before and never have since for 360 games...

Yeah, let's listen to what these pathetic little clowns have to say about Sony's incredible online world that is arriving in the next few months...

Polluted6731d ago

I hate to sound like a fanboy, but that was really well said Cerulean. Bubbles.

ISay6731d ago

i agree with every thing except that gears of war is crapy thats just out of line

FPS nut6730d ago

And the army of multi account fanboy's are idiots. You are by far what is wrong with this site. How many times did fanboys have to log on to agree with that?

Wii60_FTW6730d ago

Shut your f*cking mouth, fanboy. Gears of War is infinitely better than Krapzone will ever be. And that real-time Krapzone 2 demo looked like blurry garbage compared to Gears. Get raped.

WilliamRLBaker6730d ago (Edited 6730d ago )

we can say the same for nearly every Playstation affiliated source out there, so whats the big deal sky? oh i know its because your a sonyfanboy and in sonyfanboy land only other fanboys can do wrong, and only one system is the best regardless of its crap preformance in every area so far.

and KZ2 looks shot for shot identical to the Fake CGI trailer shown e3 2005? lol what a liar thats a lie and you know it, KZ2 looks nothing like the tailer and its worse looking then Gears and it will play like crap just like KZ1 did.

I like all the sony protection group lies your pulling out your ass there buddy.

sicknnyc6730d ago

Bubbles for you and Points for the comment Destroying 1up. XD

KillJoi996730d ago

Check out this video. I think You'll really like it. You too PS3 fanboys.

rofldings6730d ago (Edited 6730d ago )

Check out this video. I think You'll really like it. You too 360 fanboys.

also video #2: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Polluted6730d ago

@billbaker: You're right. The same could be said for any Playstation affiliated source. That's kind of irrelevant to the argument Cerulean was trying to make, however, as 1up isn't supposed to be "affiliated" with any console. They're supposed to be objective.

KillJoi996730d ago

See, you can fix a broken XBOX, you know with that 3 year warrenty we're set. Your problem is you don't have a decent line up.

rofldings6730d ago (Edited 6730d ago )

"See, you can fix a broken XBOX, you know with that 3 year warrenty we're set."

Yeah, you're all set. Except after 3 years, right? Oh right, your console has a life spam of 3 years. Have fun buying another POS that'll break down due to Microsoft's brilliant engineering team.

Btw, "PS3 has no games" argument is no longer valid.

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Cop_Boy6731d ago (Edited 6731d ago )

that site is full of damn sad xbots

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

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-Foxtrot29d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle29d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7729d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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15 Years Ago, Mortal Kombat (2011) Saved Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise

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italiangamer38d ago

"Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise"

Press X to (seriously) doubt.

DarXyde36d ago

Underrated comment. I used to hate that game so much that any time my siblings asked me to play it, I just picked Hom and shut myself down mid-match.

Soy36d ago

And then MK1 killed it again.

DivineHand12536d ago (Edited 36d ago )

15 years went by so fast. I remember playing through the story mode at launch.

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PlayStation legend Shuhei Yoshida says Jim Ryan fired him because he didn't listen to him

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Relientk7737d ago

Yeah I can see that for sure. Shuhei Yoshida should have been in charge not Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga37d ago

It should be free highway for him now.. but Sony are too stupid to see this, especially that moron Hulst

S2Killinit37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Wtf why all that anger. PlayStation is dominating on every level. Besides I think there is a little more to hiring a CEO than just who is available. Its not like its a athlete your team wants to buy.

neutralgamer199237d ago

S2Killinit

live service failures, chasing trends, closing studios. yes dominating

Cacabunga37d ago

Sony is Dominating because competition is not existing. Compared to previous gens this is the poorest in terms of software offerings.

Last gen we got Uncharted 4 Lost Legacy and TLOU2 from ND alone.

This is so far a remasters gen, with no competition to lift up the quality

1nsomniac37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

..."PlayStation is dominating on every level"....

...Really???

PlayStation are soon heading into a new generation in the not to distant future. They currently have the worst customer satisfaction they've ever sustained as a company. The company is heading for a huge crash while at the same time they'll need to be planning how they are going to try and win back that favour and the build up to their new releases.

Yes financially they're winning but they're going to have to ride out this complete public corporate disaster. No one has faith in the company or the product anymore. They've damaged their public image so much this generation. Greed can kill anyone.

medman36d ago

Hulst is a disaster......

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blacktiger37d ago

He would've done the same thing and fire Jim Ryan and Shuhei would be the villain. Why?
Because Elite creates the narrative and distraction for gamers, users and citizens.

Outside_ofthe_Box37d ago

More confirmation that Jim Ryan is the culprit for what has happened to Sony. Hulst needs to go too. What sucks is that a lot of the good top heads at Sony are no longer there. I wish that guys that were forced out prematurely by Dumbo Jimbo like Shuhei and Layden came back.

robtion36d ago

Yep. Yoshida was responsible for bringing one of the best games of this generation to playstation (Stellar Blade). He is an actual gamer and is in touch with what gamers want (creative, fun games, not GaaS and agenda pushing). He also seems like a genuinely nice guy if you watch some interviews. Of course they got rid of him.

darthv7237d ago

Makes you wonder if MS even thought about hiring him after Phil and Sarah were leaving. He certainly couldn't make their situation any worse.

Agent7537d ago

Microflop. After Windows XP and Xbox 360, it all went floppy.

S2Killinit37d ago

Floppy 😆
No pun intended

badz14937d ago

Yoshida for President! Jim Ryan was and always be a hack! Sony should get Shu back

Lightning7737d ago

All the gamer/consumer lead heads are gone across PS and Xbox. shuhei gone phil's gone (questionable) but gone. The future of gaming is somewhat uncertain across the board.

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