sony is retarded, all they've EVER had to do is release ONE game for move that was a swordfighting game that also used the nav controller since day ONE and it would have been a hit, and made a real dent into kinect. but they've STILL not released a SINGLE proper game for it, and allowed kinect to win strides with absolutely nothing. how can they be so freaking stupid.

39.99 game price point because they were scared. mostly move-only game support (no nav) because they were scared. only make "move-compatible" games/shooters because they were scared. THIS IS NOT HOW YOU RUN A COMPANY. have they never heard of "if you build it they will come"??? sorcery should have been a launch title AT BEST. the revamped sorcery which they are "doing" now (if it ever comes out), should have been sorcery 2.

Six Axis, PS Home, PS Move, PSN Plus....Sony has had epic fail after epic fail this gen. PS Vita will be another one to add to the list.

The move failed. Period.

It was a generic copy of the wii. For all intensive purposes, it was the wii HD with none of the titles.

Could it have done great things? With the right software, maybe. But we didn't see that happen.

In regards to mentioning Kinect on this article, the Kinect imo failed too. Not intially, but in regards to longevity it has. How many people care about the Kinect now? once again, a lack of software led to its slow down.

If motion controls can have great software, it could work. Until then, nintendo owns the motion control turf

The Wii Motion control were nice. Kinect was also. PS Move not so much.

Well the issue with Move is that it lacks Move only titles that make it worth owning. I bought one because of Sorcery, I admit that, and I will be buying that game when it releases.

The problem is that Sony is slapping Move support on titles that don't really need it. I wouldn't give up standard controllers for games like Killzone or Little Big Planet.

I'm hoping that Sony starts to put out some quality killer apps in the future for the Move.

Sony treated Move as an add-on. Move from day one was an "if you want it" peripheral that they added support for in many games and it was "supported" in many games moving forward.

MS treated Kinect as a "must have" add-on. Kinect from day one was offering experiences that could only be played via Kinect and on top of that integrated the tech fully through the console.

It was a subtle difference in strategy to a degree...but it was massive in its perception. I never have needed Move, nor has Sony ever given me a reason to "need" move. Kinect on the other hand gave me reasons to want/need kinect.

I am not saying Kinect is better...just saying the support for Kinect and marketing was far better than for Move.

Think of it in terms of gambling, MS went all in on Kinect and it paid off for MS. Sony placed a decent bet on Move and when it didn't hit and win big they never increased their bet and now probably never will.

Had the Move, traded it in. Have Kinect, about to trade it in. Seriously, the only thing I use it for is voice command and Child of Eden ( which has since worn out its welcome ) And what's on the horizon for Kinect... *squints eyes*... Well, a whole lot of nothing. Kinect is a $30 trade in a Gamestop. The fact that I paid $150 and some change for this thing is keeping me from getting rid of it. But, man oh man, its time is quite limited in my house.

I have a feeling since the ps3 is about at the end of its cycle that this years E3 could be MOve heavy. All of their franchises just had sequels. Look at microsofts last few they have been kinect focused. If sorcery is going to be the killer app everyone wants, I am surprised they didn't delay it til holiday.

I have the move and the sharpshooter. I've gotten so good with it I can't play fps' with the controller. The precision is so finite and exact I can shoot a target between obstacles in front of it. I literally have to hold by breath when sniping. It is the best thing for FPS' since .... ANYTHING.
HERE'S THE PROBLEM. The actual adjustment of holding a gun is drastically different than holding a controller in your lap. Fortunately for those who stick with it, it only takes a couple of minutes to adjust. Plus on the Sharpshooter the buttons are re-mapped where they function inuitively where your fingers are. In this generation though there is a bias against anything new or anything that takes learning to have fun. People want to be great on the game as soon as they fire it up the first time. Also Sony, doesn't require ant third party developers to implement the move controls in their Fps', although I can't imagine why. COD, as well as every other game would then have an exclusive over 360. I would get ANY FPS game with move controls DAY ONE!! Trust me you learn that sharpshooter, you wont go back to anything else.

Kinect/move are both fun the problem isn't the hardware its the crap shovelware they are throwing at these like the Wii (I mean really a Stone Cold Creamery game). I enjoy the sharpshooter (got it with SOCOM) but never really gave it a real chance due to having to move out of state than being lazy and not charging it. I do enjoy the kinect (again I should hook it back up) but great party games no real games for single player.

The real start to make these to components successful and give some legs to the current consoles is to integrate gameplay into them. Ghost Recon is doing it. I mean imagine playing a third person adventure game with a controller than given a prompt house a motion controller to complete a puzzle or to use the move/kinect as a flashlight in first person. even implement free throws into a basketball game, penalty shots in hockey, or in football getting motion control for a key moment in a game where your action makes the difference.

I don't know that there's a thing they could do to salvage the Move. It just seems like a fundamental misunderstanding of their own demographic; a panicked reaction to the Wii's success.

Nothing against it, though. It seems to work well enough. But there isn't a thing they could do to reel me in on this one. I won't have an interest in motion controls until they take at least one more big technological leap, methinks.

I think there is ONE game that may salvage the Move and thats............

Sorcery!! If it ever gets released! Games been moved up and down almost as much as Last Guardian!

isnt it gorgeous how we treat animals.

That’s Zuckermans famous pig.

Move controller was extremely accurate great times back then

That definitely would have been the absolute worst time for stick drift to happen...

I always wanted a true to life surgery simulator for PSVR1. I always knew those Move controllers were precise AF under the proper conditions.

Move was a very accurate device under good conditions. Dr Marks even wanted to open it up for hobbyists and developers to extract more data to do more things. I even seen him use it for space, astronaut like simulations.

Sony always had the tech. They just needed the software to go with it. PS Move limit was not having an analog stick. Which it seems the PS5 controller made up for that.

I would like to see them use PS VR 2 for surgery or something with that eye tracking built in.

At least it wasn’t used for a mini-sub

It failed because motion controls can’t beat traditional controls. I’ll admit the tech has come ways since then but I will always choose a controller over a wand.

It was just a terrible controller. It was so crap that Sony refused to waste any more time or money fixing it. Despite me loving PSVR, the move controllers were the biggest let down of the generation. Always felt like they were a generation behind. Even for the ps3 days.

As a stand alone it failed. But it worked well for VR. But I'm glad to see the end of them with PSVR2.

It failed because it wasn't good and didn't have games. Even the wii was a trend and people are over controllers like that for games.

Little early to call Playstation VR a success too. Like other VR platforms it's a niche product and it's easily the worst VR headset, it's cheap so that helps.

It actually didn't fail or was a failure. It sold around 15 million before VR even showed up and had many games to play. Who knows how many more millions of the device were sold for PSVR. Especially when two are required for more immersive hands on gaming like Iron Man or Blood and Truth.

Dr Marks created Move as for some experiences but he knew that the Eyetoy and PS Move weren't core experiences for everybody like the Dual Shock controller. He's said that many times in interviews. It wasn't to take over regular couch controller gaming.

PS Move not only had titles for casuals to play for motion gaming on PS3, you could also play core games like Killzone and Resistance. Unlike its competitors, Wii and Kinect.

Unlike its competitors, PS Move continues to live on and be sold for VR. Wii motion gaming is pretty much dead. And Kinect itself is dead. All those casuals that propped up those other devices, went off to play on their cellphones. Basically making them a fad that didn't last. PS Move continues to be used and works on PS5 and can continue to be used for the life of PS5 for those using PSVR 1. That's 3 generations that PS Move will have been used.

Maybe the writer needs to make an article on why the Wiimote and Kinect are dead and can't be used on Switch or Series S/X. While PS Move continues to exist.

PS Move was the best form of motion gaming of the last, last generation. Wiimote and Kinect were technically far worse than the PS Move. Only Wiimotion Plus could compare and it was too little too late, with only one or two marquee titles proving the 'Plus' being a worthwhile upgrade.

While there weren't enough PS Move games, at least there were some true 'core games' that supported it, from KillZone 3 to Resident Evil 5. Something that Microsoft's 'casual motion system' could not offer, and most Nintendo Wii games didn't offer traditional controller support, whereas PS3 games almost always had a DualShock 3 option.

I'm a big fan of light gun shooters, and both Wiimote and PS Move ushered back in this genre, something the Kinect couldn't do as well. If you think the PS Move "sucked", then go back and play the light gun shooters on it, something not available on 360, Switch, PS4, XBO, XBSX, PS5.

After the PS Move, we did get one light gun system for consoles, the PDP Mars, and I can assure you, the tech inside that thing is truly unreliable junk.

So to sum it up, the last, last generation had three different motion control styles:
Microsoft - went straight stupid with Kinect, and was overall the least reliable worst experience.
Nintendo - all games supported Wiimote, but this was often to its detriment, not enough games supported traditional controls.
Sony - didn't have a ton of PS Move games, but the overall library supported traditional controls (this is overall the best outcome).

Only ever bought a couple Move-only games like Sorcery and the Fight, but I’ve gone ape over PSVR! I’ll always choose the sticks over the controller given the choice for VR. Big fan now.

Nintendo had better marketing and seemed like the real thing.

Xbox and playstation seemed like imitation.

Well,

The "failure" has a controller for the PSVR and soon the PS5 VR.

For all the Wii's success, where is the Wiimote? And Kinect, yeah MS literally took away any functions on the xbox one with updates.

move had some great games and was an awesome "peripheral". if you played wonderbook or resistance then you would probably agree with me.

Failed because there wasn't enough games or "arcade classics" that used the Move. Still use it to play Time Crisis and HOTD from time to time

Wouldn't say failed given its second life as a PSVR option

I had one and beyond the initial “wow this is cool” hour after unboxing it, it basically sat in a cupboard gathering dust.

It wasn’t that fun or revolutionary really when we already had the wiimote, Kinect was more interesting from a technology standpoint but ultimately, the only good motion games were on Wii - not Xbox or PS.

The move was Sony attempt to cash in on the wii craze. Hell, the last article about the move that actually generated a lot of heat on here was over 4,000 days ago. Nobody talks about this, VR, or the vita until someone shames it.. then all the defenders come out the woodworks.

It is basically only peripheral being used for 3 generations,.. So how is it a fail,.. ?? Still being used for Beat Saber, BoxVR,... I heard it was really hard to get. Article is just shit.

Another one of Sony's demented ideas like PS Home and the PSP Go.

I think the problem that Sony faced with the PS move was the PR marketing mess they created around the thing.
1) if it was aimed toward casual well there was nothing casual about setting understanding what you would need to play a game (some require only the camera, others 1 move and some 2 moves)
2) If it was aimed at a more core audience then sorry but the game library was quite small or non-existant.
3) Wonderbook

If Sony would have communicated better and support better the Move I think it would have fared a lot better
My personal favorite game is Tiger wood PGa 11, because the Psmove really makes the game shine.

wait, it failed?

for me it failed because it never went down in price and only a handful of games appealed to me on it
mainly no more heroes and the resident evil cronicles games

It wasn't useful until VR came along but it hindered VR due to its lack of analogue stick. Fortunately psvr2 isn't just using old hardware because of the excess amount of stock available

Failed? What spanned 3 generations and still being sold. Tidy little profit for Sony if you ask me.
Shouldn't this conversation be kinect failed?

The move controller was and still is great for FPS games, I used them alot with killzone 3, socom 4 and MAG. The deadzone aiming was very very competitive, just as good as mouse and keyboard if set up right. It was comfortable to use too in conjunction with the separate analog move controller in the other hand. Imo it has been under utilised and could still be used today in most shooters.

The reason the MOVE failed is obvious. Motion gaming is for casual gamers and Nintendo did an incredible and much better job marketing to them. At the time where casuals were all in gaming on the phone, the Wii brought them to consoles. However, Playstation is a core gamer machine just like XBOX and as the article stated the cost to enter for casual gamers was not only a barrier but even the look of them (heard people say MOVE looks like a sex toy). All these peripheral things fail because most core gamers are not into these things like Home, 3D Gaming, Move, Kinect, and yes I'm saying it, VR. Core gamers support is the consistent life of gaming.

The casual gamer may stick around for a little bit like the Wii because of the fad and hype for non-core gamers but those folks eventually move on to something else. VR was to be that next thing but it has not caught on as big as the Wii with casual gamers. To its credit it has caught on more with some core gamers but as a VR owner, its losing a lot of steam.

If Sony wants to do the smart thing, MOVE on from VR because it will not be supported by most gaming companies that make games for core gamers who don't want to be wearing goggles for hours. Casuals will not be spending the huge investment of a PS5 for them to play PSVR.

I went to a conference in Seattle right when the Moves were announced that was dedicated specifically to showcasing them. We went out for drinks with some of the execs that were there and we specifically asked them, "why are there no thumbsticks on these things!?" They told us that they didn't want to create a controller with multiple movement inputs because it would confuse people. I told them that that very decision is what's going to doom the controller. And sure enough, even with the Navigation controller, they couldn't create enough software to justify any hype around it.

My own opinion is that it just wasn’t that appealing, the dildo controllers and the lack of worth while games kept it back.

Lack of an analog stick on it in my opinion.