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Xbox 720: How Microsoft Could Determine Sony's Fate

(IndustryGamers) If the strategy of focusing on Kinect 2.0 and a touchpad controller is true for Microsoft, it's clear whose market they're going after: Nintendo's. Yes, it could be that the Wii U and Xbox 720 will actually be going after a similar mass market audience. This leaves Sony in an interesting spot – they could target a similar audience or they could keep on the track they've been on and possibly make the PS4 many, many times more powerful than the competition's consoles.

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5218d ago Replies(5)
josephayal5218d ago

KID, The X720/PS4 is more of the same, the wii u and the VITA are the revolution

Conzul5218d ago

Ha, I'd be just fine with M$ going after the Wii, seeing as I don't play either one. If that happens the Ps4 will be the centerpiece for hardcore gamers for the next 6-10 years.

BTW, any console that has a touchpad does not reach for hardcore audiences. A touchpad is something called a "gimmick"

dark-hollow5218d ago

What defines hardcore?
So playing ninja gaiden 3 on the wii u controller makes it less hardcore?

Just because it have a touch screen doesn't makes it less hardcore because there is buttons to go along with it.

By your logic, the vita and 3ds Are not hardcore.

Conzul5218d ago (Edited 5218d ago )

I define hardcore by how much precision control your "controller" allows you to send to a game.

The Vita would probably count as hardcore ( I don't have mine yet ) because of its dual analogue sticks....you can fine-tune your sniper shot for instance. Gimmicky controllers ( Wii Motion+ and probably WiiU ) place the focus of "fun" on the INPUT, whereas hardcore controllers place the "fun" in the RESULT of the INPUT (in the actual) game.

Short Version:

Hardcore: "Look at this awesome game I'm playing!"

Not Hardcore: "Watch me flail my arms and tilt side to side! Pay no attention to that game behind the curtain!"

DlCK_DANGEROUSLY5218d ago

Aside from the clever Wizard of Oz reference in your second comment, I respectfully disagree. Not about the Wii as it's clearly NOT hardcore. Though not to say it's not fun for some people, which is what is actually.

As for the Wii U(goofy name aside) idk enough about it to disagree OR agree.

Hopefully it's clear through text that I'm not looking for a fight. I just disagree.... kind of.

Conzul5218d ago

Well the funny thing is, I think of most Zelda games as hardcore (they are tough and reward speed and focus), but I have no respect for Wii.

I think Skyward Sword was a very good game, but I hate the fact that I had to play it with motion controllers.

I'll only respect kinect-like getups as hardcore once you can sit down and do subtle hand movements to control the game instead of all this "OooOOO look, I'm REALLY doing it" nonsense.

mume195214d ago

So is the Vita twice as gimmick cuz it has two touch pads??

OmegaSaiyanX5218d ago

I have no idea what Microsofts' strategy is all I want them to do is bring out a reliable decent system that appeals to the core gamer and not be plagued by tons of kinect stuff. I dont want the next Xbox to be another Nintendo.

Patriots_Pride5218d ago

I know you can not reply but maybe you have a duplicate account.

I have PS3 and 360 and do majority of my gaming on the 360 becuase 80% of my friends and fam are on Live and I have never been bothered or bombarded with Kinect stuff. I played tons of great games on my 360 last year and looking forward to another great year of gaming on my 360.

My question to you is if you do not enjoy games like Call of Duty, Skyrim, Batman, Mass Effect 2, Read Dead Redemption, Resident Evil 5, Fall Out Vegas, Bioshock 2, Fifa, Madden, Gears 3, Forza 4, Dead Space 2, Halo Reach, Saint Row 3........then what type of games do you enjoy? Becuase all those games and more are on the 360.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio39d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing39d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9239d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit39d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing39d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9239d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted42d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8542d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele41d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk41d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay41d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10142d ago (Edited 42d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit41d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg41d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10141d ago (Edited 41d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14941d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay41d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn242d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn241d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown42d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay41d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay41d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac41d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger42d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300042d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde42d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde41d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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