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thedude445212d ago (Edited 5212d ago )

Good for sony,

i give them my full support in my gaming dollars when i can because they actually make tons of exclusive games, dont charge me a dime to play online, and ive been going strong with this 60gb for 4 years.

coryok5211d ago (Edited 5211d ago )

more people should look at it this way

free online (seriously, before this gen, online was always free, then here comes along one platform and charges for it? seriously, why do anyone support that?) lots of money spent on developing games as apposed to microsoft who spends their money, not on games, but on marketing? cmon man, again, why would anyone support that?

you can either support a platform holder who invests money into making a platform that has lots of games available without charging you ridiculous fees (such as online) or you can support a platform holder that charges their customers for every little thing while not putting any of that money into actually making games

whichever one is the better business model will probably be adopted by its competitor next gen so others should probably think pretty hard about this. do you want free online or dont you? do you want to have lots of games being developed or dont you? its the consumers choice

thedude445211d ago

you know it would be great if all platforms had free online, my friend was going to buy a ps3 and asked me how much is it to play online? i said it was free, and he mentions ps+ and theres no way it can be free, and i was kind of shocked right there, i was like how crazy is this gen where we think its acceptable to pay to unlock content from a disk you paid for.

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MaxXAttaxX5211d ago (Edited 5211d ago )

I know a lot of people will try to justify XBL with "lots of features".

But the thing is, >online play< ITSELF should be available for free to all owners. And charge for all the other features separately.
Dreamcast did it. PS2 did it. PC has been doing it forever.

Then again, Microsoft would lose A LOT of subscriptions because being ABLE TO PLAY GAMES online is what most want anyways.

DigitalRaptor5211d ago

@ NathanExplosion

You summed it up perfectly. If Microsoft made online play free, whilst keeping the rest subscription based, at least 50% of their subscribers would be gone *like that*.. at LEAST 50%!

Can you see the problem there?

sikbeta5211d ago

Sales dropped 50%, you're telling me that's good?

And then some gamers actually believe this gen can keep going, the market is asking for new consoles asap!

darthv725211d ago

not so sure about that. While i would like to see a free online across the board, there would still need to be a level of online play that is tiered to the paid members.

We can almost see that will happen on a per game basis from the likes of EA and activision. PC side of free play has limitations in game types and player counts depending on the game you play. Console online could go that direction as well.

Meaning that ps plus members would get complete access to all the game maps/tracks and player count where as free members would be limited. That would not go against sony's original statement that the core of online gaming would be free.

To make up some revenue, sony can simply create these new perks for paid members. They are already paid members so to them its just part of the membership. Those who arent members could still game online but just not in the same manner as the members only.

No doubt sony has been thinking this long hard since psn was first discussed. The success of live gave them a model to work with but lack of the same level of dedicated structure like MS has lead them to decide they couldnt very well charge for the service the way it was.

The fact MS was always a paid service, there was nothing to hide. They didnt have to create the silver level but for those that just like to get demos and buy content that is sufficient for them.

Should MS make online free for the silvers? Sure, but if they did they would most likely impose some kind of restrictions to hours of play or something that differentiates that level from the gold. They would never give up the cash cow that is live gold.

We can already see that the holdout for sony in garnering more plus members is the fully free online. They are adding new features to plus members here and there but you know its got to be killing them to keep online the way it is.

They know it can make $$$ but dont want to piss off the millions who arent plus members. Those that are, things stay the same or actually could get better as it would separate the really dedicated online gamers from the casuals.

_Aarix_5211d ago

Who cares about the fee for xbl and psn. If you guys have such a giant problem with it then get a ps3. Wait -_- you have one? Well then whats the probelm?

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KratosWitAGun5211d ago

still got my PS3 phat 80 gig for 3 years now

xXtremeHDGamerXx5211d ago (Edited 5211d ago )

you lucky bastard mine stopped working : (

izumo_lee5211d ago

We have 3 successful consoles this gen so i can care less what Sony, Microsoft, & Nintendo say about sales. Nonetheless since a Sony console has been the majority of my gaming for over 15 years i will support them.

Thatguy-3105211d ago

Well said. I grew up with Sony consoles and I will support them no matter what. Can't wait for what they bring out next gen.

undisputed5211d ago

I grew up with Nintendo, Sega, and Sony.

Thatguy-3105211d ago

I grew up when Sony dominated the gaming scene. I will always stay loyal to them because I grew up with the franchise they created. Same can be said about the ppl that grew up when Nintendo was dominating the gaming scene and similar to kids growing up now with Microsoft xbox360.

sikbeta5211d ago

I grew up with Nintendo, then switched to PlayStation, last gen supported the 2 companies and this time I only have a PS3, next gen = when Nintendo launch it's new console, I'll buy it and I hope Sony is not stupid enough to launch last like they did this gen, or I don't know if by the time PS4 hits, I'll care about it anymore...

baodeus5211d ago

yeah i grew up with Atari, but i don't stay loyal to anyone. I go where the games are. I was more on ps brand last gen, but i like x360 more this gen. It could flip flop depend on what next gen gonna bring.

Why stay loyal to console?

YodaCracker5211d ago (Edited 5211d ago )

Same for me; last gen I owned a PS2 and a GameCube. I never even bought the original Xbox. This gen, I owned all three, but the Xbox 360 got the vast majority of my playtime, and I eventually went on to sell my Wii.

_Aarix_5211d ago (Edited 5211d ago )

Idk but over 85% of n4g users are attached to a certain platform/company. I think we all know what it is.

Me..it was
genesis, playstation 1, ps2/gamecube, xbox360/ps3/wii

izumo_lee5211d ago

Why stay loyal to console?

Think of it as in sports. We have a favorite team that we cheer for through the ups & downs. We feel pride when they do well & are upset when they do not. It is all about the passion that we have for that team that continues to lead us back to them.

I started gaming in the 80s with the NES, i was a kid with no clue what i was doing. I continued to have fun though so my parents bought me a new system when it came out. As i got older & was able to save money for myself the first system i bought on my own was the PS1 & lets just say i never looked back.

Some people follow the games & that is cool but for me all my gaming memories were on a Sony console that i worked hard to buy. And it continues to be worth every penny.

That is why i stay loyal to a console.

baodeus5210d ago (Edited 5210d ago )

@izumo lee

The point of being a gamer is to play games. The console is only a medium for that purpose.

Games define the console, not the other way around. When you talk about nintendo, you hear about Mario or Zelda. When you talk about ps, you hear about GT/UC. When you talk about xbox, you hear about Halo/Gears. People would buy the console to play these games right? Do you ever hear anyone saying they buy these games so that they can play it on that console?

If you don't have a console, you can still play games on other medium. But if you don't have game, well then the console is just a useless piece of hardware.

I can see being a fan of games (like you like RPG, JRPG, TPS, FPS, etc.....for example), but i don't understand the reason for being loyal to a console.

When people care more about a console, they getting further away from being a real gamer.

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TheUnbiasedLion5211d ago

bugs me when people put can care less or could care less (it implies you actually do care about what they say)
I couldn't care less is the right way to say it. Not trying ot be a grammer nazi(cause i suck a spelling and punctuation) but you made your whole comment sounds like you care a lot about the big three.

On a related note good for sony though representatives usually say their words carefully to make it sounds good. As long as sony keep doing what they are doing and their vita is amazing then i will be a happy bunny.

Drekken5211d ago

I came here to say this. +Bubb for making me take less effort.

If you could care less there is obviously room for less caring which implies YOU CARE.

jessupj5211d ago

I'm glad I'm not the only one that gets irritated by this. John Clease sums it up nicely.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Knight_Cid5211d ago

i am happy they dont talk about sales.

To me its like talking about salary

its unbecoming of a gentleman

Megaton5211d ago (Edited 5211d ago )

I always imagine the Sony person writing these NPD responses pulling a bottle of Jack out of his desk drawer before starting, pouring himself a glass and gulping it down before pouring another and loosening his tie.

How many more months are we gonna hear about this mystical "momentum" they're building? Seems like they've been droning on and on about some momentum that only they can see for years now.

Guy has the balls to mention the Vita pre-orders, too. If they were really good they would have bragged about specific numbers. You'd have pre-order numbers worth bragging about if you knew how to advertise your products, Sony.

I normally avoid NPD/sales threads like the plague, but I get really tired of a lot of the things Sony does. Kaz needs to whip them into shape.

undisputed5211d ago (Edited 5211d ago )

For once, in everyone's life...can they just admit that all three are here to stay? Stop this crap and play games already.

What the hell did you expect Sony to say. 'Oh, we're doing bad and we're doomed'? Apparently, you must be a market chair analyst or something.

thedude445211d ago

yeah i agree, this sales competition is nuts. seriously...i avoid discussing such dumb things but its like 2 race car drivers saying...forget the speed and performance, how much of these do we sell? makes no sense.

Megaton5211d ago

I couldn't possibly care less about sales. I simply had the urge to comment on the ludicrous PR responses they keep releasing in the wake of less-than-stellar circumstances. They don't have to say anything at all, which would probably be a better look on them.

undisputed5211d ago (Edited 5211d ago )

Sony's focus has always been games. Not waving around the biggest stick when it comes to sales. If you expected anything different from them, then you've got the wrong company.

People need to chill out and relax. Sony isn't going anywhere and neither are the other two companies. They'll bounce back eventually.

And thank you moparful for a logical comment.

Megaton5211d ago (Edited 5211d ago )

I never said anything about anyone going anywhere, and I completely agree that having better games, which they do, is more important than sales.

However, there's a balance. Best games in the world don't do much good if they're not getting you any traction with the all-consuming public. Sony isn't a gamer charity. If people stop buying their products they can't keep funding all those games.

@mopar - You're projecting and jumping to conclusions about me. "If you hate this, you must like that". I have great disdain for PR in general and if you're gonna bring up Microsoft, I have to say I hate theirs way more than Sony's. It's much more excessive and obnoxious.

Frankfurt5211d ago

You started following Sony in the last 13 months, then?

Because only 13 months ago Sony stopped bragging about every little thing and started the "momentum" angle. Spin spin spin it Sony!

moparful995211d ago

But microsoft boasting and proclaimins superiority at every possible turn is ok? You do know that these PR reports are intended to comfort investors and not stroke some misguided fanboy egos... The fact that you made an unecessary comment regarding sony's uncessary comments is very telling....

YodaCracker5211d ago

Ha! Like Sony wouldn't be boasting about their sales if they were performing like they did last gen with the PS2. Microsoft boasts because they have earned the privilege to boast by handily outperforming their competition month after month.

moparful995211d ago

Handily? So the ps3 hasn't been outperforming the 360 for the last few years? If not for microsofts bizzare ability to shift an insane amount of consoles during the christmas rush they would have seceded to the ps3 by now in terms of overall sales...

ZippyZapper5210d ago

So you're saying Sony, or it's fans, have never proclaimed superiority over anything this gen?

What was that about misguided egos?

Tito085211d ago

@ Megaton- At least Sony's response is more decent & acceptable... I'm not saying that Microsoft's response is any bad, but I find them saying mostly exactly the same thing over & over.. "Biggest In Xbox or Videogame History" or "XXX millions of dollars, more than any console in history"....

I mean, its great & all that, & it benefits them because let's be honest there's Xbox live, which they make a ridiculous amount of money, plus those Halo & Gears sales, also Call Of Duty.... But they have such good franchises like Crimson Skies, the Rare games, PGR(-They should of kept Bizarre), Too Human(I heard it was not that great though)... If they aren't meeting the sales as they expected, at least they tried, can't be relying too much on the same IPs!!!!!

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted21d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8520d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele20d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk20d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay20d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10121d ago (Edited 21d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit20d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg20d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10120d ago (Edited 20d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14920d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_34d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle33d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit33d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog34d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog33d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad34d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_34d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage34d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda33d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong59d ago

looks god awful on the base systems