I agree its incentive for someone to keep paying but I just dont want a situation where someone buys into this only to find out you have to keep paying for ps+ to access your content and go on some rant about how sony are crooks and yada yada yada..

Me personally, I have no reason to stop subscribing so its a no brainer for me

After seeing just how motivating it is losing access to content I better understand why people pay for live.. I'm just glad sony didn't make it to where you have to have plus to play online...

Yea I know lol I was just posing it from the standpoint of someone that isn't aware of that catch and I don't want them to start another anti sony movement over it lol.. Just educating the masses :)

Except this is all conjecture on your part, not to mention what is offered by PS+ and what is offered by XBL gold are fundamentally different and not really comparable.

Also if anyone ever thought that either Sony or MS were in it for anything other than money, then they're more naive that ever.

The whole of PS+ is not necessary or mandatory for users and it was definitely smart for them to set it up for us to keep coming back if we wanted to keep the majority of the content. But with XBlive its something that people have a need of, its almost mandatory to have gold because of the sheer amount of content you will not get.

Just because you know what you're getting doesn't mean its better than something introduced later on. Gold is just ripping people off and forcing us to pay for something that should've been free years ago, if the other services are so enticing then why not offer them alone for gold and put online play as free. They can't do that because the majority of subscribers will vanish.

Deluding yourself into thinking Gold is a good thing or in any way or reason justifiable is wrong. There is no real defense for it. As for PS+ there is definitely the possibility of Sony adding some exclusive stuff or requiring payment, but I see that as slim to negligible by the current trend.

And considering what they have given so far for Plus and the fact that the normal service is not getting shortchanged either, I don't see how you can even project a pay to play future for Sony online.

nice comment but i think you are missing out on something. New features being added to the PSN (sorry SEN) are being offered to the plus members first. If they do become available to the free members then so be it but sony is obviously taking a queue from MS on this one.

Cloud storage, auto sync, auto patching and downloads, etc. All of that stuff is available if you are a paid member. It may not be something people will specifically pay for but you have to figure that to make plus relevant to the members they would need to keep adding things to it to differentiate it from the free side.

It only makes sense that sony would restructure their service to cater to the paid members because they are the ones paying. If the same features were available to the free side then what would be the point of being a member? Its like I said before. MS was not hiding anything when they made Live a paid service from the beginning.

sony was basically stuck at making something of value (online play) free to start with because their online service was nowhere near as structured as live. What many dont seem to understand is that they WILL make it a requirement to get the "full" enjoyment out of being a PS3/Vita user.

No different than on the PC. There are plenty of games that can be played online for free but there are also "members only" games that require a fee to be part of that game. If you arent a paid member then you could still play but be limited to how much of the experience you get to enjoy. For some thats ok, others will pay and these companies know that.

Will MS offer a free online for silver members? If they did then it would come with limits such as how many hours per month or something like that.

Will sony start charging to pay to play online? My assumption is yes because it is too much of a cash cow to NOT take advantage of.

That is just an assumption and the way they 'could' go about it is via exclusive content that is only available to plus members. That is not such a hard thing to fathom. Especially considering that sony has lost $$$ and will need to review new avenues to make some of that back.

Its either that or open the games themselves to internal advertising. By which you would have to watch ads prior to playing the games like movie studios have done with dvd/bluray movies.

Advertising revenue can outweigh consumer revenue depending on the conditions. I'd hate to have to watch an ad before playing an online game but that may be the new direction console gaming could head. It is already on PC and there is usually a trickle down effect.

I didn't like Days Gone either, it doesn't deserve to be on any best of list.

i had so much fun too, played almost every night with mates or cousins baha