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Public knowledge of Blu-ray/HD DVD weak

Tech.co.uk writes:

"We saw recently how Japanese sales figures for high-definition video recorders make worrying reading for the backers of HD DVD, so it's no surprise that the latest data on the market for players and recorders as a whole shows more of the same.

What is unexpected, though, is the relatively low level of public awareness about the differences between Blu-ray and HD DVD that comes through in surveys by Japanese research firms NTT Resonant and Impress R&D."

Multigamer6741d ago

people will obt for HD DVD, the cheaper most reconisable product out there

ruibing6737d ago

Well there's a reason why its at that bargain price.

thepill886741d ago

People nowadays see higher price... means better quality... and 99.9% of the time... they are right... Blu ray slaughtered HD-EAD... sorry, google it...

Multigamer6741d ago

so why doesnt ur theory work for the ps3 to, most expensive but as we have seen got trounced by the wii and 360, ur theory goes out the window

wallace10006741d ago

Why don't i see more BMWs on the road then?

joydestroy6741d ago

i don't even know the difference between the two and i own a PS3 and 360.

i consider myself pretty tech savvy, just the profiles and stuff get updated so often that i just don't even care to keep up. not only have i not played a blu-ray disc in my PS3 yet, but i could care less actually. DVD's look just fine to me in my PS3.

mrguru6741d ago

People come in my store asking the diffrence, i see people with HD DVD players i could give them one reason to put it back.

sony samsung sharp panasonic LG (dual format) Pioneer all have blu ray players while only toshiba makes hd-dvd

consumers are starting to see that theres more choice out there so thats why they are going blu.

and ill put it like this people my HATE sony, but they may love sharp, or panny or samsung or pioneer. what happens if somebody hates toshiba?

and really until i see another MAJOR CE manufacturer makes a HD DVD player then ill say blu ray is in trouble.

toshiba started the price war, and the hd dvd players just arent lucrative for any other major CE manufacturer to hop on their side.

betmax had momentum then it shifted suddenly, but i dont see that happening with blu ray toshiba is in the minority in the industy they have to stop the bleeding sometime. i know stockholders dont want to see the Q4 fiscal report

heres a preview
we pushed out 90,000 HD DVD players one week
and we made -$100 on each one.

that doesnt sit to pretty add that with the 150 million paramount had gotten unless MS fronted the BIll

ITR6741d ago

Do you guys not sell Onkyo, DV-HD805 and the
DHS-8.8 Integra HD DVD players? The Onkyo is in the $800 range and the Integra is in the $1k range but then again the ES Sony is in the $1,300 range for BD.

As for losing money Toshiba would've lost more money have they let them sit and gather dust then sell them at discount to move them out of stock. And don't think studio's and other manufacturers are not taking a hit.
Profit margins are shrinking everyday. By early next yr I expect more $199-150 HD players and more BD players in the $299 range.

I think eventually we might even see Samsung and LG drop the BD players in favour of the hybrid players...once the price drops into the $499-599 range.

Kholinar6741d ago (Edited 6741d ago )

"but i dont see that happening with blu ray toshiba is in the minority in the industy they have to stop the bleeding sometime. i know stockholders dont want to see the Q4 fiscal report

heres a preview
we pushed out 90,000 HD DVD players one week
and we made -$100 on each one. "

It's funny to me how people shake their heads at Toshiba selling HDDVD players at a loss when the most popular BR player is and has been sold at a significant loss (sacrificing console/game profits made since 1997) from the beginning. Add HD-DVD's much better attach rate (4.5 or so compared to BR's 1.5 or so) and I'm not sure precisely what the problem is...

RUF16741d ago (Edited 6741d ago )

There is a ton of misinformation out there. When I go into the Rogers Video's up here in Canada, I have the staff asking me what the differences are between the two. The other thing that doesn't help is that you also have the knobs at several "big box" stores, who either have no clue what the hell they are talking about, or worse, who have been told to push one format over another (in my experience it's always been Blu-ray), spreading misinforation across the land (e.g., "Rogers Video only rents Blu-ray"--Uh, DUH! No, that's not true). Most people have no clue about the formats, never mind what the differences are. It certainly doesn't help the situation.

I don't mind either format, but HD-DVD has more features than Blu-ray, which is a plus in my book. I like the capacity that Blu-ray has, and the scratch-resistant coating, but it really lacks a lot of the features that HD-DVD has. Everyone keeps yapping about 300 selling so well on Blu-ray, but the fact of the matter is that 300 is way better on HD-DVD. The picture and sound are the same, but there's way more stuff on the HD-DVD release of it.

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"It's Just So Lame" - RTGI Modder Thinks DLSS 5 Is Impressive But Shares AI Slop Sentiment

Pascal Gilcher calls DLSS 5 impressive but shares the "AI slop" sentiment, explaining the likely tech behind it and why he dislikes it.

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CrimsonWing6964d ago

I fail to see how this is AI shhhhlllloooop. Looking at the different games they showed, this has made many of them look far better.

isarai_lee64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

It's AI slop because it ignores the artists intent and changes the details ESPECIALLY when it comes to character faces. The scariest part of it is introducing it as the next stage of DLSS, a feature where the current iteration already has controversy surrounding it and for quite a lot of games cannot be fully disabled. So reasonably the precident is already set for what path this could take, and it's not good

blacktiger63d ago

In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost and so on. Many of the lighting deletes shadow, including shadow on the face like eyes even chin.

Chard63d ago

Why stop at art when it comes to human input - why not just have AI play the game for us, remove human input altogether

theshizer64d ago

If you don’t like it, just don’t enable it. Personally I think it looks great from the videos I have seen.

isarai_lee64d ago

And what about when you can't? Cause there's plenty of games where you cannot fully disable dlss already, i mean we're well into an era where it's a major crutch for developers to cover up their cut corners, why would this be any different?

blacktiger63d ago

You are playing with people's money and allow Nvidia to scam you.

In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost. This is all lie to raise the cost of the graphic card.

Andrew33664d ago

Making characters look more realistic not ok because we want the developer to decide on how the game was intended to look. - Internet

Change entire game through mods thus changing how the developers intended the game to be is ok. - Internet

isarai_lee64d ago

Something consumers can do to a product after they have purchased it, entirely optional and can always be undone with a fresh install

VS

The leading gaming hardware manufacturer making this the next iteration of the main AA/Upscaling technique that is heavily relied upod by modern devs and is not optional in most games.

Not at all the same but nice try

jwillj2k464d ago

At the moment you need 2 5090’s just to get an image on the screen so this is all vaporware until proven otherwise.

Andrew33664d ago

The good news is you can just not use it as well.

Christopher63d ago

It's all about choice in the end. But, I would say that calling it 'more realistic' is quite a stretch. It looks like AI art, and that's rarely realistic.

Urrakia3464d ago

All the comments I see are reminding me of how we got to the current state of gaming when microtransactions were first introduced: "It's completely optional guys, we promise! If you don't like it just don't buy it!"

I think we all know how that ended up.

Popsicle64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

I had the same exact thought the first time this was brought up in a separate article about a week ago. Took me straight back to the conversations surrounding “horse armor.” Just don’t buy it they said. Years later, many IPs I previously enjoyed are so infected with monetization schemes that I don’t even consider purchasing them anymore.

DLSS 5 and the like are the same thing wrapped in a different package. History rhymes but many of us never learn from it.

blacktiger63d ago

Biggest Scam. Overrides lighting and shadow. So why keep Ray tracing? It's all a scam to raise graphic card. We now see Nvidia with Microsoft downturn anything against them. Sony is next!