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Microsoft Is Lying About Hack

Let's start by describing some of my web habits. I never give any of my account information to anyone, I have virus protection, I have programs set to scan for malicious programs on my computer everyday,I use multiple password; none the same, and always make sure I'm at the official Microsoft site whenever I log-in to it(I don't even do it often). However, somehow my account was still infiltrated...

disturbing_flame5209d ago

I don't understand all those stories around those hacks.

It's weird to see more and more users complaining and saying that Microsoft is responsible for those hacks when Microsoft denied it several times.

Looks like people are still experimenting it. Weird.

ABizzel15208d ago

The thing is MS is being slow about helping people who are calling in to complain.

MS honestly don't know how this is going on. My account was hacked back in October, and back then they said they don't know how the hacks were happening, so the easiest and safest way to protect MS is to say it's the users fault, until it can be proven otherwise.

Fifa is used as the avatar for a lot of the people selling which could be a double slap in the face showing that EA's game is behind this, and MS and EA have yet to do anything to prevent further hacks since it's still going on.

This is a public relations nightmare if it spreads, which is why they'll deny until the end and try to fix it before it gets out of control, just like they did with the RROD.

My account was hacked in October, it's January and I still don't have my MS points back. MS still has my previous credit card on file even though I've called in several times asking them to remove it (it's deactivated, but still just take it off file). And I've never received a call back or any paperwork regarding my case even though I asked for it several times.

MS is doing a horrible job at handling this, and soon people are going to start pressing charges against them.

ApplEaglElephant5208d ago

but no. Even ex hackers came out and said that MS could/should easily improve the security, but MS is apparently too busy blaming this on users.

disturbing_flame5208d ago

I'm sorry for you dude.

I really don't understand this situation, and hope if more and more people are in the same case, medias make more articles about it to force this situation to stop.

EA should also mention they have nothing to do with that if it's also the case.

Their silence is awkward.
It's been months you are struggling you deserve reparation.

CarlitoBrigante5208d ago

The funny thing is, the gaming media doesn't write anything about this big hack. I wonder why? when PSN is down for 5 minutes the whole internet is full of haxxxoorrzzzxxxxx

dark-hollow5208d ago (Edited 5208d ago )

Do you think ms will hide or deny a DATA BREACH just this easly?
Do you know how is it of a big deal is that?? There is a reason why sony took the service down for more than a month. Its not something ms could handle by liyng.
People can sue for millions if it is true.

Till we get solid evidance that the xbl servers has been hacked.
Emails could be hacked by phishing or bruteforce etc. Which leads to your gamertag being stolen.

Lulzsec, the infamous hacker group has released a graph about most used passwords from all the info they stolen, and top of the most passwords people use are stupid things like "123456" or "password"

gamingdroid5208d ago

A lot of these stories all cite use of different passwords on different accounts and being smart enough to avoid phishing scams. So it certainly raises questions?

At the same time, are these strong passwords. I know I won't remember all my passwords, if they are strong especially if I have multiple.

Maybe they have multiple "easy to guess" passwords?

Also, in order to get your account compromised, don't you need to have the victim's Windows Live ID (with the brute force method)? Which is an email address.

You don't list that publicly, so how did the hacker get that email address in the first place? Did the user leak that or did MS?

I remember when 90k accounts were attempted harvested on PSN recently. The number affected here (around 1500 accounts on one trade site) seems miniscule.

Everyone, just change your password to something strong, don't publicly post your email address and use a secure computer/browser.

ZippyZapper5208d ago

It's phising. Stop giving your accout details looking for free MS points on random (non MS) websites.

Keep trying guys, maybe if you click your heals together 3 times and make a wish.

TheGameFoxJTV5208d ago

Sorry, but I'm not some child who would be dumb enough to buy into a free point site. Never even seen one before. If I did, I'd know it was fake, and instantly scan my PC for malware or worse. Microsoft would never give anything away that easily.

rezzah5208d ago

How can you claim it so easily?

Did you inspect the situation for everyone with this issue?

The best thing I can think of, that comes to mind about protecting their account, is changing their password.

And for those who's situation is what you said it to be, then they need to learn from someone or something to avoid those scams.

TheBrit5208d ago

I find it funny that he states "I don't share my account information with anyone" yet as soon as he becomes defensive he blurts out 'B.S my password has 3 capital letters 3 numbers and isn't a real word' so now we know how he probably sets all of his passwords - and you say your not part of any phishing??!! It did not take much for you to offer up that info now did it!!

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Series_IIa5209d ago

"Let’s start by describing some of my web habits. I never give any of my account information to anyone, I have virus protection, I have programs set to scan for malicious programs on my computer everyday,I use multiple password;"

Yet no mention about checking E-mails and websites to see if they are legit... a la phished.

MrBeatdown5208d ago

"none the same, and always make sure I’m at the official Microsoft site whenever I log-in to it(I don’t even do it often)."

Read harder.

Bzone245208d ago

What the author failed to mention is that his Xbox Live password is "password".

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kaveti66165208d ago

I've been phished before and I had the exact same reaction as this fellow did.

"It can't be me. I'm not that stupid. I always make sure."

Yeah, no. It can be you. It's not a matter of whether you're stupid or not. And you can make sure 99/100 and mess up that one time.

I don't think Microsoft is lying to you. If their servers were breached the consequences would be an order of magnitude greater than just a few dozen mean complaining about being hacked. Hell, more people complain about their consoles bricking from firmware updates than they complain about their XBL accounts being "hacked."

Intentions5208d ago (Edited 5208d ago )

Nahh i'm sorry. But I've never been phished/hacked before. Even when my weak passwords etc I've never been hacked.

I'm sure you[hackers] would never hack into my accounts.

kaveti66165208d ago

The thing about being phished is you don't know.

Secondly, the person who wrote this opinion piece decided not to tell us what the 52 dollars was spent on. If the 52 dollars was spent on. If the people who fished his account spent 52 dollars inside the XBL marketplace, then it's very likely that his account was phished. Because if anyone went through the trouble of breaching Microsoft's data servers and decrypting 1024-bit encrypted files, why the hell would they spend 52 dollars on video games and DLC from Xbox Live?

Hell, if someone knew how to decrypt 1024 bit encryptions, why would they waste their time on credit card data from XBL when they could be skimming millions off credit card servers?

It kind of makes you think how self-centered these phishing victims can be to assume that someone would hack XBL and take down their credit card info just to, what, buy a COD map pack?

ABizzel15207d ago

It's not a few dozen it's thousands of people go to any of the foreign websites selling accounts and there are thousands of them on there.

It was proven that xbox.com was one of the reasons why some of the accounts have been hacked, and EA's silence to the accusations leads many to believe they know Fifa my be another source of blame.

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_5d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle5d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit5d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog5d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog5d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad5d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_5d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage5d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda5d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Xbox Game Pass ‘has become too expensive,’ says Microsoft’s new gaming chief in leaked memo

Microsoft’s new Xbox chief, Asha Sharma, has signaled that Xbox Game Pass pricing is about to change. In an internal memo to Xbox employees, obtained by The Verge, Sharma admits that “Game Pass has become too expensive for players” and that Microsoft needs “a better value equation.”

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GotGame8186d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Microsoft has been talking about adding commercials to get the cost down. Not in game, but before you start a session. I would just open my game then get all the stuff I need to done, before sitting down to play.

If they cut the price down enough to justify it, I'd do it. Most Sub services are giving the option now. If it's worth it!

blacktiger5d ago

no moron! commercial will be in every loading and in game for further opportunity.

shadowfax335d ago

user calling other user moron and gets upvoted....wow how toxic N4G has become.

jwillj2k45d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Multiple tiers. You decide at what level you want the ads. Obtrusive gives you access to more games. This will allow ads to play during crucial moments of gameplay, almost guaranteeing you fail/die. However you gain access to more games. Unobtrusive only shows ads before/after you play, however you get a fraction of the games. /s

peppeaccardo5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

FUK ads ... dont u have enough? MS should just make games and sell them, for indie or AA games get them on GP so to give visibility to small studios. They got into a business model which is not sustainable as it is killing their first party studios. Their fault .. .

Jingsing5d ago

You do realize that has been one of the big reasons for the mass exodus of people leaving subscription services. Getting ad's while paying for a service and having the price continually jack up and ad time.

thorstein5d ago

Why would they cut the cost to you?

GotGame8185d ago (Edited 5d ago )

What you said is not what I saw. What I read said at THE START of a session! Why be a jerk? It isn't like, I was intentionally lying, like so many do! Also, commercials will be an OPTION! Just like Netflix, Hulu, Prime, etc, offer them. GP is also aiming for free Cloud gaming with an AD supported tier.

I mean, do you even use GP? If you do and don't want commercials, you can pay not to have them. I in my OG comment said I might go the commercial tier IF it's worth it. No I wouldn't have all my loading screens be an ad like you said.
Have a great day.

BlaqMagiq15d ago

I will never understand why people want forced ads in their faces in their games or their console. It's never worth it not even with a lower price tier.

CornholioX5d ago

Ads are the virus that needs to be removed!!

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Exthun6d ago

Microsoft owns a massive collection of iconic IPs, yet somehow they keep proving they have absolutely no idea how to run the video game business.

Reaper22_5d ago

Its not their job to run the game business. Everyone has a business model. You do what works for you. You react to changes in the market. Thats really all you can do.

Smellsforfree5d ago

No, actually reacting to the market is how Sony threw $400 million (reportedly) at Concord.

__y2jb5d ago

“Its not their job to run the game business” - a new low in the blind defense of Xbox.

Alek835d ago

Interesting, isn't it?

Halo, Forza, Gears of War, Fable, Minecraft, and now Bethesda games... These should allow them to print money!

hiawa234d ago

Especially selling them to the huge Playstation base. I say add Nintendo to the release schedule if it is truly about selling software. Get the games to the most gamers.

hiawa235d ago (Edited 5d ago )

But, Microsoft heads set the price in the first place. Don't scapegoat Phil and Sarah on that as I don't think made those calls, and a $650 Series X and $400 Series S is a nonstarter for most.

Extermin8or3_5d ago

The cost of the consoles is outside of their control, they aren't going to sell at a loss when they aren't making money off games sales cos xbox players hardly buy any games thanks to games pass, which costs far too much to run and make the first party titles for. The console prices are determined by various global factors effecting hardware atm.

Eonjay5d ago

This is actually correct and what made things harder for Phil and Sarah was Amy hood demanding a 20% return on top of that

hiawa234d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I get all of the outside forces here on console pricing. They aren't selling at all which was also one of the reasons they went multi-plat, so there seems to be no answer here for them as are you saying a 5 year old Xbox costs you more to make in 2026 than in 2020? If that is the case there is nothing further to say. I have two Series Xs so I hope they last.

Extermin8or3_4d ago

@hiawa23 yes that is exactly what I'm saying same for ps5. Remember these devices would have been finalised 208/2019. They were designed during a period of particularly low hardware and rare earth materials etc. They aren't designed to be efficient and are large and have large heat footprints. Both new consoles will benefit from new manufacturing process reducing amounts of silicon although the leaks about next gen xbox strongly suggest it has a much larger chip set than ps6, in line with average pc chips etc size and cooling. All of this now costs alot more than it has previously. Meanwhile leaked documentation about ps6 explicitly states that Sony following recent global shocks like covid and Ukraine war wanted to future proof ps6 from cost perspective. This means lower emergy usage, smaller chips etc and likely form factor and thus weight. This will also lead to cheaper shipping costs. I fully expect base ps6 to come in at cheaper then ps5 pro. Which is likely to be discontinued.

Eonjay5d ago

Well it seems like the rumor of COD leaving GP is real.

Jingsing5d ago

They'll probably just end up killing off the surviving Xbox users who are left and that are into that model. They won't regain the vast majority they lost either.

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Content Creators Are Receiving Xbox Project Helix Merchandise From Microsoft

Content creators are receiving Xbox Project Helix merchandise alongside a note from Microsoft Gaming CEO Asha Sharma.

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shadowT9d ago

Everyone deserves to make a bit of money

VenomUK8d ago

“Just wait until next year!”

DivineHand1258d ago

Well they are doing what they can to revive the brand. They have a lot of work to do.

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peppeaccardo8d ago

yep agree 100% ... and some more. The hype machine is warming up and the performance numbers sheet will be filled in no time to guarantee that the winner on paper is revealed way before the launch day ... BUT as we all know only 1st party games and brand idenity will declare the real winner. Only problem is the price tag needed to get into next gen ...

SIdepocket8d ago

Just what the world needs: another poorly-selling console.

Agent758d ago

Next gen will be a massive failure for Microsoft and Sony, you could say it's already started. Game sales at an all-time low and the high cost of consoles and controllers, the PlayStation 5 Pro is the first indication on the pricing of next gen consoles and that's been a sales flop for Sony. Some people will say that people are paying eye watering prices for PCs, but that's an entirely different market, what I call OCD gaming. As I mentioned in another post, the PlayStation 5 Pro here sells for just under £800, which is just over $1000, games can top £75 ($100), including Switch 2 games. Some of us would like to see a single format, but that'll never happen. Microsoft and Sony would laugh at the idea of stepping off the gas pedal with the tech and do what Nintendo has done with the Switch 2. Three hybrid consoles fighting against each other, basically taking current tech and adding a few bells and whistles. Who's up for a PlayStation 6 for $999 and $99 games? Let me know in the comments.

Reaper22_8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

The simple solution is dont buy what you cant afford. You dont have to move on just because the companies do. If people want better hardware and better games theyre gonna be more expensive. People need to be content with what they have.

rlow17d ago

You know a lot of those sales are dads and moms buying for their kids and teens. Consoles have alway been a reasonable price to a degree. But you start heading far north of $500, I don’t see as many parents buying for their kids or teens……will it still sell? Yes but will it sell a hundred million or more…..that’s the real question. Hopefully ram prices drop.

derek7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

@Agent75 There is no need to lie to make your point. The ps5pro is selling as a percentage about as well as the ps4pro. The recent pssr2 update has actually improved its value. Your attempt to group the ps5 a console (that is about to cross 100 million sold and is by far Sony's most profitable generation) with the abject failure that is xbox is laughably stupid. Truth is Sony shouldn't even consider launching another console until 2029 at the earliest.

StoneTitan7d ago

Everyone except you knows the pro is a profit machine that is why its expensive.
Ps6 will not be even close to it in price

rlow17d ago

What happens if ram prices remain high? Do you think Sony or MS would eat those costs? Depends on how much they would have to absorb.

InUrFoxHole7d ago

And the lord shone his light upon gamers!

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