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Modern Warfare 3 Spawn Logic at its worst

Just a little video on the worst of MW3's annoying spawn logic. In one game I died about 43 times in 2 minutes.

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r1sh125245d ago

I understand when a game is bad, the spawns in MW3 are horrific but this guy is a clown.
He keeps going back for revenge kills, he rushes back to where he was killed, by the time he gets there, the other player has moved and sees him first.
Its typical noob gameplay, Ive been in games where my team is spawn trapped but I dont go out rushing.
I see where people are getting shot from and slowly get a few kills, get to 5 and disrupt the other team.
You have to be smart, and this type of gameplay is terrible.

ljh2175245d ago

This is true. I really hate dome, but the building he was spawning in is the easiest point on the map to hold down and clear enemies from. Instead he just sprints out everywhere, I suppose the bomb was about to be blow but you can't diffuse it if you're dead.

I'm not saying MW3 spawns are perfect - maps are so small that even if there was a perfect spawning algorithim, it still wouldn't work. Just this is evidence that the guy is terrible rather than the spawning system (although it wouldn't take much to prove how terrible it is).

davidmccue5244d ago

The spawns will always be bad in DOME, the map is way too small and when all the players are spread out you are bound to spawn in close proximty to an enemy player. The only fix they could do is to limit the player cap for the map.

As for the player in the video, he deserved to get killed so many times, due to a lack of skill and common sense.

BattleAxe5244d ago

I bet the player count has majorly dropped off, and I'm willing to bet that alot of people have gone back to MW2 and Black Ops. This is the first CoD game that doesn't display the overall player count since CoD4......I wonder why.

Hufandpuf5246d ago (Edited 5246d ago )

1. You really suck
2. The spawns are garbage
3. It's COD, did you expect improvement?
4. Why did you buy the game?
5. NVM you still suck.
6. I'm lvl 13 and beat lvl 80s continuously.
7. Stated above doesn't change the fact that the game still sucks.

Intentions5245d ago

Geee... Since when did levels determines skill?

Overall Mw3 is broken.
CoD4 and Mw2 is a lot better, each new release of CoD is getting more shitter and unbalanced. Even though Mw2 was broken; but at least they fixed it. After all these years they couldn't fix it for the sequel; looking at you Mw3.

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Intentions5245d ago

Yeah true... Guess I just like the simplicity of CoD4. :/

cyborg69715244d ago

I tried playing this last night. What a joke. There are so many things that are unbalanced and lag. At least black ops tried to bring it back to the level of mw1. Bo owns mw3

davidmccue5244d ago (Edited 5244d ago )

If they remove tubing from COD it would be a lot better game and more 'skill' based, 70% of my deaths have been by the other players just firing random tubes.

The sad thing is that some people only use tubes to get kills and they manage to get the most kills in a match, even though they are really bad at the game.

I know you can use the Blast Sheild perk to help combat this, but it will leave you very vulnerable if you substitute the Assassins perk for it. The ememy players will know exactly where you are on the map, hence removing any stealth gameplay elements from the game.

They should make a new 'True Hardcore' mode which removes tubing, killstreaks and the map radar altogether, this will help bring back the CORE gameplay of COD and how it was meant to be played, Noobs may not apply.

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thrasherv35245d ago

The spawn system does indeed suck(easy to achieve when you have bad maps) but all this video proves is that the player sucks at this game.

Mroc135245d ago

I agree. I actually would have liked to spawn in like that player and get the chance to kill the guy that killed me.

arnyftw5245d ago

This is demolition. You spawn at the same part of the map so its easy to spawn trap. I have only played a couple of demolition game in which a team hasent been spawn trapped.

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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III & Warzone - Season 6 Combat Pack Trailer

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Modern Warfare 3 flooded with cheaters after arrival on Xbox Game Pass

Players are using hacks to gain an advantage in the game, such as aimbots and wall hacks. The first gives a player superhuman aiming abilities, while a wall hack lets you see through walls to gauge where other players are.

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Jin_Sakai664d ago (Edited 664d ago )

“These hacks are typically used by PC players, but those playing on PC via Xbox Game Pass are identified as Xbox players in multiplayer lobbies.”

This is pretty dumb to say the least.

Cacabunga663d ago

All about them headshots for Xbox

badz149663d ago

Gotta pump those numbers up

blackblades663d ago

That's a WTF, they suppose to be labeled as pc users even if its on PC game pass. They mess that up big time.

XiNatsuDragnel663d ago

Oh bad this will be entertaining to watch

ZycoFox663d ago

If AI keeps getting better (and it will) it's just a matter of time before there's more sophisticated cheats even for consoles, and they wouldn't even need to be running on it, I have little doubt about that.

lelo2play663d ago

Don't Gamepass online games have anti-cheat systems?
If not, that's pretty dumb. Microsoft need to fix that asap.

Rynxie663d ago (Edited 663d ago )

They won't ever fix this problem, unless they (developers, publishers, Sony and MS) go after the cheat providers directly. You no longer need to hack consoles to use hacks. During the ps360 days, they were going after cheat devices, but it was a cat and mouse game. These cheating methods were around during those days, it's nothing new, but they kept it under control. Since the PS4/Xbox one generation, they stopped going after these cheating devices and it became widespread. Which I find odd, since they started charging for online play (PS4).

StormSnooper663d ago (Edited 663d ago )

Possibly, this is because the companies were going after cheats because the same cheats were being used to pirate the games, whereas today, the companies use online verification to prevent piracy, thus eliminating the need to go after people who cheat only to gain an advantage in the game. As long as the cheater remains below the radar, and does not completely break the game, the companies look the other way as their wallets are not threatened by it. (that is my completely Uneducated opinion on the matter)

pwnmaster3000663d ago

I mean, COD games was always filled with hackers, nothing new. I can’t blame MS on this. Activision had years to try and fix this. Might take MS some time to make some change.

Rude-ro663d ago

It all depends…
Microsoft’s guidance on how to handle gamepass on pc and their love to force crossplay with pc seems like a them issue.
And they own activision, so it is still a them issue.

StormSnooper663d ago

lol well that sucks.

Is there a reason this happened upon arrival on xbox?

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Activision Reportedly Sold An AI-Generated Skin In Call Of Duty

The Yokai's Wrath bundle was released despite previous guarantees by Activision that A.I. would not be used for final assets, per the report. Instead, Activision assured developers it was simply for internal concepts. That, of course, was not followed through. For what it's worth, per the PlayStation Store, 2,400 COD Points cost $19.99, meaning players potentially spent real-life money on a skin that was not created by an actual human.

As far as A.I. use goes across Activision, a source told Wired that 2D artists are utilizing A.I. to aid their work. That is a result of mass layoffs, in which many 2D artists were impacted. “A lot of 2D artists were laid off,” the source named Noah said. “Remaining concept artists were then forced to use A.I. to aid in their work.” Mandatory A.I. trainings have been implemented, according to Noah.

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boing1666d ago (Edited 666d ago )

I mean, is this even surprising?

just_looken666d ago

It is not ubisoft has a ai tool for crating stories/script's they even talked about npc's having there own ai speech like we see with those skyrim mods.

Ai is the future sadly which sucks in so many way's.

S2Killinit666d ago (Edited 666d ago )

Activision. And MS. They will ruin console gaming forever.

Oh and where the FRIGGIN outrage people? When Sony makes a remaster of a masterpiece single player story driven game, they get roasted. But this, this, goes unnoticed? Then don’t complain that you aren’t getting enough single player story games.

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just_looken666d ago

Ea and ubisoft also use ai

ea using ai for development threatening mass layoffs.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/...

ubisoft ai for npc speech
https://www.theverge.com/20...

Almost every big boy in the industry is using ai in some sort of way now

Oh and sony? well they are making spyware ai were they can see how long it took you to do X and adjust difficultly.
https://gamerant.com/sony-a...

Then you got AI agents
https://www.ign.com/article...

https://www.creativebloq.co...

blackblades666d ago

Sony ai is a patent doesnt mean it came to light

just_looken666d ago

@blackblades

Wow this site every time you say the S word or P word they dive in defend there god its beyond nuts

I said "they are making"

You know a term that means its not out yet ffs

S2Killinit666d ago (Edited 666d ago )

How is that a response to what I said? Are they also selling AI generated skins?

Cacabunga665d ago (Edited 665d ago )

Always bringing useless links totally off topic.. just to try to show you are superior in knowledge to everyone else

…simply laughable

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just_looken666d ago

@S2Killinit

You never mentioned skins in your comment just stated its all microsoft's fault like so many others.

When like i showed they are late to the ball game as every other company is using or plans to use ai in various field.

If you combine everything then its getting closer to hitting a button and poof out comes a game no soul no passion nothing.

Right now its art/3d models/skins/writing/voice work some and coding can all be done via ai.

S2Killinit666d ago (Edited 666d ago )

That was the whole point of my comment, I wrote it in response to the article. Instead of focusing on making exciting games and developing talented developers, they are busy making AI generated skins that people are buying for huge sums of money. Then, some people turn around and shit on Sony when it tries to capitalize on single player classics by making remasters, and the same people then complain that they want more single player games. MS cannabalized the industry because they never thought making games was essential to their business. So, instead of nurturing theor own studios, they let them die, then went and shrunk the industry, hurting interests of every gamer in the world. Anytime there is a bad trend in the industry, MS is at the helm, leading the way. That is what I’m saying.

smashman98666d ago

I'm sorry but do you honestly believe Sony will sit out of A.I. Every executive at every one of these publishers is wetting themselves in delight at the prospect of A.I. You best believe that once we start seeing it spread throughout the industry Sony won't be too far behind. The only people we'll have to blame are the consumers themselves.

S2Killinit665d ago (Edited 665d ago )

No, I don't believe that Sony will not do the same. But, as I mentioned, MS is always the first to embrace such things and create the worst trends. Once they establish that this is the best way to make money, everyone else will follow. (Have to follow if they want to stay competitive)

thesoftware730665d ago

S2, and blackblades:

All from the Horse's mouth below.

"Artificial intelligence (AI) in video games is crucial for Gen Z and Gen Alpha, who seek “personalization across everything,” says PlayStation executive Asad Qizilbash."

“Advancements in AI will create more personalized experiences and meaningful stories for consumers.”

"He emphasized that AI could enable non-player characters to interact with players based on their actions, enhancing the personal connection within the game."

Yeah, Just MS and Activision...smh

S2Killinit665d ago

I’ve already explained myself twice. Quit your false equivalence, same thing the xbox fateful pulled before and after the ABK acquisitions. Which by the way, blew up in your faces real good. Now, doing the same thing when someone brings up MS’s nefarious behavior, defend them to the end, and watch them scorch gaming as they have been. At least rest of us can take consolation in that the smoke will go in your eyes before anyone else’s.

thesoftware730665d ago (Edited 665d ago )

"Quit your false equivalence, same thing the xbox fateful pulled before and after the ABK acquisitions. Which by the way, blew up in your faces real good."

I'm not sure what you are talking about, you seem to have a issue communicating, because we are on a post about using AI to create video games content, and you put that solely at the feet of MS and Activision, when it's being, and will be used industry wide, right from Sony mouth, I would say it's relevant...then you went on to give Sony a spit shine slob down about a masterpiece TLoU when this had absolutely nothing to do with Sony or TLoU, then you attempted to clean up your rambling spit shine with no real backing for a ridiculous comment.

Obviously you meant to post that nonsensical over exaggerated comment. I also don't know what blew up in people faces, I am perfectly fine with the game industry, I don't have time to be internet outraged about nothingness.

Really read your comment and listen to what you said.

"Activision. And MS. They will ruin console gaming forever."

Bro, for real? Really? Seriously? It's that serious? So there is nothing Sony and Nintendo can do against MS and Activision? MS is 3rd place with you even talking about?

If we stay relevant on MTX, then you still sound ridiculous because again, you lay it all at MS and Activision's feet when almost all companies have used some form of MTX, including yup... Sony.

S2Killinit661d ago

I read this comment, it boiled down to “seeiously?”.

My answer: yes seriously. Since you didn’t say anything else, what else can I tell you? Yes MS is seriously ruining gaming. They have been for some time, and working their way to where we are today, and aren’t even done yet. MS are the worst thing to happen to console gaming.

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swedishMeatwad666d ago

"The Yokai's Wrath bundle was released despite previous guarantees by Activision that A.I. would not be used for final assets, per the report."

We're talking concept art? Because as of right now there's no way to generate a final 3D model with final textures. So the final assets don't use AI. That's not to say that it sucks for 2D artist that it's easier to generate visual ideas and build from them leading to less 2D artists needed (really sucks), but are they say the final concept art was completely AI generated and then 3D artists built from that? And yes, I'll pile on that Activision as a publisher and their developers I have experience with suck and they'll do whatever, ethics be damned.

OldDuffer665d ago

Thats actually a very useful and informative piece, thank you.

just_looken665d ago

@OldDuffer

Your welcome though it seems it went over many users heads.

PapaBop666d ago

Wow I can just imagine the likes of Activision, EA and Ubi etc having an army of AIs creating overpriced crap and the fanboys just lapping it up. I hope the AIs have a good union.

montebristo666d ago

I understand why people think it’s good idea to Unionize to fight back against such things but it’s not. It’s a bad idea. It’s activisions wet dream to have these pumped out weekly by some AI. Protect your neck!

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