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Microsoft Abandoning the Gaming Audience?

Jeff from Volatile Mode wonders if emphasizing all these factors is losing the traditional gaming audience.

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DonaldBeck5276d ago (Edited 5276d ago )

from my perspective and personal opinion YES. Im a core gamer and i feel there not giving me what i want as a gamer. Im a multi-console pc owner and i feel im not getting what i want with (xbox360) and i feel the competition is delivering what i want.

Gazondaily5275d ago

Not surprising that you of all people would answer yes.

As a multi-platform owner myself, I don't think MS is abandoning its gaming audience at all. Any claims regarding it are just premature and based on nothing more than conjecture annd judging by the source (which is actually a blog and thus, not suitable to be published as an artcile on here) its an ill-conceived topic.

The 360 still has a solid line-up of games with excellent third party support, a few exclusives (although not as many as it should) and it still has an excellent online platform that is constantly evolving.

burgerman5275d ago

LOL. You sound like a marketing douchebag.

Gazondaily5275d ago (Edited 5275d ago )

Yeah because a 'marketing douchebag' at MS would admit that they don't have as many exclusives as they should....

So am I wrong? Does the 360 not have third party support or a decent online platform? Does it not have a few exclusives?

Its easy to be a keyboard warrior online but it doesn't make your pen*s any bigger and I'm sure you know that.

The ironic thing is, I play my PS3 and PC more than my 360 at the moment but SDF that run this site won't have any of it I'm sure.

@below

"I lost it at "Any claims regarding it are just premature and based on nothing more than conjecture annd judging..."

Next time, read the whole thing. Look at the title; its a glaring sweeping statement; abandoning the gaming audience? That is a big statement. A more appropriate title would be 'Is Microsoft moving away from its core audience?'

burgerman5275d ago

I lost it at "Any claims regarding it are just premature and based on nothing more than conjecture annd judging..."

EVILDEAD3605274d ago (Edited 5274d ago )

'Im a multi-console pc owner and i feel im not getting what i want with (xbox360'

LMAO @ also being a multi-account troll also..

DonaldBeck..joined 06 Nov 11
Burgerman..joined 06 Nov 11

What a coincidence..

Classic troll fail..

On topic..

No matter how many fan kiddie blogs whining about Microsoft suppoosedly abandoning gamers

In the real world 360 gamers are still playing their favorite franchises and games on the 360.

Nothings changed..the usual suspects don't even own a 360 and STILL show up in every 360 article repeating the same stuff ad nauseum.

They say the 360 forgot the core..

Two years straight and ALL of it's top core exclusive franchises have been released back to back.

Two years straight and the top core franchises are still doing huge numbers on the 360. Even though the 'experts' say half of those 360 owners don't exist

They complain about Kinect.

But of course it's ok to forget Nintendo and Move

They are now complaining about Micrsoft improving Live in a huge way..

But yet we somehow never heard about about PS3's best marketing campaign 'It only does everything'

In the real world, the silly internet fan kid rhetoric would get you laughed at. People LOVE Youtube..People LOVE Netflix..People LOVE the new content.

How many I-phone owners and Droid owners mad because Apps are just as important to growing business as the actual cell phones?

But, let it be known, anytime you hear this segment whining louder and luder..this means Micrsoft is doing something right.

Either way, doesnt matter, won't stop one 360 sale or one one gamer from turning on their 360 daily.

Evil

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humbleopinion5275d ago

I don't know man, considering the fact it's a 6 years old console I don't think I've seen any console getting so much support and so many games on it's sixth year in the market - not even the PS2 which probably has the strongest game catalog from past generations.

Check out metacritic ratings for the Xbox 360 in 2011. It's amazing: The first page is all in the green! That's 100 games/dlc with 76+ review score - probably the best Xbox 360 year ever (I didn't check, but I'm not sure if any other console on any previous year had 76+ ranking for the first 100 games in the list)
http://www.metacritic.com/b...

I mean, even the current month of December (which is by tradition the weakest month of the year in terms of new releases since all the retail games come out in November) looks so good thanks to all the digital content we are getting: Sonic CD, Joe Danger Special Edition, expansions for Battlefield and Gears of War 3 and Forza 4... Top all that with Trine 2 coming next week and you have a pretty busy release schedule for December (and that's assuming that you already cleared out you backlog from November - I'm not even 1/4 in Skyrim).
Granted, most of this stuff is on the PS3 and PC as well, but it just means that it's a really good time to be a gamer no matter what console you play on.

pr0digyZA5275d ago (Edited 5275d ago )

It does have some great scores, but (this is a question) does that have to do with Microsoft?I mean going by that logic we could say thanks to the general public the pc (which is open) has some great games. a lot of those games can be found on the competitors console as well.

Overall though I would say they aren't abandoning it just sticking with what they know best.

humbleopinion5266d ago

@pr0digyZA

Actually on the PC, it's also mostly Microsoft OS PCs that get the great games. Mac and Linux usually have a smaller selection of games, so perhaps you can thank MS for creating comofotable tools for Windows development (or on the other hand, blame them for dividing the market by not making their tools universal :) )

ZippyZapper5275d ago

DonaldBeck Your a PS3 fanboy.

Nuff said

gamingdroid5275d ago

I dunno, MS gave us cross game chat, party system and lately beacons. I don't see any of the competition bringing out new and innovative online gaming features.

MS by giving you more features, has suddenly lost focus. Nice logic there....

Jake_the_Dog5275d ago

Nice logic how those are features and not GAMES, which the xbox is severely lacking.

hellvaguy5275d ago

@gamingdriod

Yes Ps3 has more exclusives, but how many games do u really need to be happy? I cant afford the time (money I can, but dont want to), on the current slew of games out now, I just bought 5 new release games in the past 2 months. Plus I bought a couple of arcade games on top of that. Idk....

lodossrage5275d ago

Gamingdroid, think about what you say before you say it.

Last I remember, cross game chat, party system, and lately beacons aren't games. Unless of course you want to sit here and say you can "play" party system for example. We're talking about Microsoft catering to their gamers by giving them more of what they actually BOUGHT the system for, which is games.

Like how the competition has you call it gives a premium services that you have the OPTION to pay for which gives monthly FREE GAMES. Like how the competition has made sure to have a steady stream of GAMES for their audience that bought their system.

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yesmynameissumo5276d ago

Not at all. They have plenty of 3rd party core support, however, there's no denying their focus has changed to things outside of gaming. Some may call it a bait and switch, others call it the natural evolution for their platform. For me personally, I don't get excited about having to be a Gold member to use everything that differentiates it from their competition. Next gen is where I either "Jump (back) In" or continue to "Long Live Play".

gamingdroid5275d ago

I have a feeling you will change your tune when the PS4 asks for annual membership for online as well....

yesmynameissumo5274d ago (Edited 5274d ago )

Since you broke out your crystal ball, gimme the Powerball numbers. PS3 games online for free. PS Vita games online for free. I'm willing to bet the PS4 will game online for free. They ARE making money on PS+, Home and let's not forget the software.

GraveLord5276d ago

I hope not but from the looks of it they are focusing on entertainment more than games.

StrongMan5276d ago

Yes they are in my opinion. When I bought my Xbox M$ was all about getting exclusive games that can't be played on PlayStation but now it's all about adding features to XBL that are free everywhere else like Youtube, Facebook, and Twitter.

Godmars2905276d ago (Edited 5276d ago )

I really don't get that where Sony has shown their intention to make the Playstation brand multimedia since the PS2, really the PS1 not that much could really have been done with CDs, that MS seems unable to focus on more than one thing with the Xbox.

They were late with movie playback on XBox1 and did themselves no favors by trying to make it up with a kit, then they let business politics influence them in several ways with BR vs HD-DVD. Actively sabotaged the physical media market then tried jumping on the bandwagon with an HD-DVD add-on. Then they maneuver to be the first console with Netflix only to fall to 2nd place because of XBL Gold. Something that will probably repeat if its true that most if not all of the 3rd party apps that are being crowed about now will eventually show up on the PS3. Just like Netfix did.

Though what gets me is the media endorsements MS gets in spite of the truth. That as much as stories like this one give Move no compliments, its quietly sold as much as Kinect minus a half billion dollar ad campaign.

My main point is that were MS seems to have to move away from one fanbase to build another, Sony just tries to be diverse.

gamingdroid5275d ago

On the other hand, MS is the leader in online play for console as well as being the first to bring Netflix, cross game chat, party system, beacons, achievements and apps to consoles.

It seems to me, the competition is just copying and falling behind. From the previous generation to the current, there is only one looser. With MS recent record sales in November without a price cut, I would say consumers are responding well to MS' offering.

Godmars2905275d ago

They're leaders in something that they focused on. How does that take away from anything that I said? Much less that I've already pointed out that they had Netflix first, yet now by all counts aren't the number one venue to it. It was actually better done on the PS3 before it was installed.

And like Netflix, as far as apps are concerned, its not a question of copying but maneuvering to get third parties to put them on their system first. Keep them off the competition's.

Ffs: Hulu could have been on both the 360 and PS3 at the same time but apparently because MS couldn't timed exclusivity it took another six months. It might have been true that they needed to tune it for XBL, but all that really says is that MS couldn't negotiate a deal that would have kept Hulu off the PS3 for 18 months.

gamingdroid5275d ago (Edited 5275d ago )

***And like Netflix, as far as apps are concerned, its not a question of copying but maneuvering to get third parties to put them on their system first. Keep them off the competition's.***

... and it seems MS is doing a marvelous job at that. Have you seen the number of quality apps coming to Xbox 360's new dash?

I haven't even had time to try them all that.

To me, the competition is pretty much stagnant.

***Ffs: Hulu could have been on both the 360 and PS3 at the same time but apparently because MS couldn't timed exclusivity it took another six months.***

That's BS! It took more time, because MS customizes the interface and tunes the software. That was one of the reason why Netflix worked better on the Xbox 360.

All about that process here: http://forums.xbox.com/xbox...

***It might have been true that they needed to tune it for XBL, but all that really says is that MS couldn't negotiate a deal that would have kept Hulu off the PS3 for 18 months.***

So MS are tuning the software and you somehow conclude MS couldn't get timed exclusivity?

I would rather ask, are the slew of apps coming to the Xbox 360 appearing on the PS3 anytime soon?

If you really want to talk about your previous post:

***then they let business politics influence them in several ways with BR vs HD-DVD. Actively sabotaged the physical media market then tried jumping on the bandwagon with an HD-DVD add-on.***

... and where is Blu-Ray right now?

***Then they maneuver to be the first console with Netflix only to fall to 2nd place because of XBL Gold.***

It's profitable and let MS build new experiences for the Xbox 360. New dash every year? What is the competition doing?

***Though what gets me is the media endorsements MS gets in spite of the truth. That as much as stories like this one give Move no compliments, its quietly sold as much as Kinect minus a half billion dollar ad campaign.***

Maybe if Sony actually did something with PS Move instead of tacking it onto existing games. Nobody cares, because nothing about PS Move is new. Not a single thing!

It seemed as if the 24" 3D TV got more coverage... unfortunately within a month of release it got reduced 40% in price.

Finally ask yourself this, if one company was the laughing stock last generation and another was respected and loved for 2 generations, but suddenly has complaints in the current. What does that tell you?

It's the media right? /s

***My main point is that were MS seems to have to move away from one fanbase to build another, Sony just tries to be diverse.***

That is Sony's biggest crutch. They are unfocused as a company. A Swiss knife that does none of the tasks well, is far less appealing than a specialized device.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio29d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing29d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9229d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit29d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing29d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9229d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay31d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn231d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn231d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown31d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay31d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay31d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac30d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger31d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300031d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde31d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde31d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7532d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_30d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.