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Is Microsoft trying to cheat people?

A recent "deal" on the Bing Rewards program tries to lure people into paying an unnecessary premium for their Xbox LIVE subscription.

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Wenis5273d ago (Edited 5273d ago )

The author forgot to add the part of how fun it is to go about cancelling your credit card that's associated with your XBL account after you get the free month.. but I guess thats just the icing on the shitcake

hellvaguy5273d ago

Actually they changed the credit card cancelling process about 2 patches ago. Its pretty easy now, but ya in the past it was a big pain.

Bull5hifT5273d ago

Yes That Is There Business Model

StrongMan5273d ago

Well, they do charge for Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube.

hellvaguy5273d ago

Except that they dont since they are free on xbox live. Swing and a troll miss.

StrongMan5273d ago

And just how much is XBL? So, if all I wanted to do was use Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube on Xbox you're telling me I can use these features for free without paying for XBL?

GearsOfWar5273d ago

It's a paid service, but they aren't trying to "cheat" people, they're running a business. They're bringing in more value to make the subscription worth it.

I don't see the problem with bringing in more value.

Would you rather them charge you JUST for playing online with nothing extra? Exactly.

ZombieAssassin5272d ago (Edited 5272d ago )

"Would you rather them charge you JUST for playing online with nothing extra? Exactly. "

Well...yea if you could get everything else for free like Facebook/Twitter/Youtube/Acces s to Netflix(a paid service already). Basically what you're saying is you would rather pay for those services instead of get them free just because it add's more value to XBL...logic is flawed.

radphil5272d ago (Edited 5272d ago )

"Would you rather them charge you JUST for playing online with nothing extra? Exactly."

Honestly charging for stuff that can be accessed free on other platforms isn't EXACTLY a good trade-off.

Plus they did that before in the past, called the regular Xbox.

GearsOfWar5271d ago

It's not about whether you get that stuff for free on the net.

Heck, I could download full games if I wanted to for free.

The point is, you're getting that stuff on a gaming console.

badjournalism5273d ago

This guy must be new to the world of subscriptions...month to month is *always* more expensive than quarterly/yearly subs.

Colonel_Dante5273d ago

"I love xbox live, but.." - the author.
Its a service, dont fall in love with it, when you trust it and are head over heels in love with it, thats when its gonna rip your heart out, kick you to the curb and say "lets be friends.."

brish5273d ago

Q. Is Microsoft trying to cheat people?
A. Yes

brish5273d ago

@disagrees

Microsoft is giving one month free so they can charge $120 a year for a $60 a year service. Please explain how that isn't ripping off customers!

drsnobby5273d ago

please show proof that MS harges $120 a yr

PirateThom5273d ago

Did you read the article drsnobby? It basically puts you on one month renewal after the free month. Which is 9.99 a month...

brish5273d ago (Edited 5273d ago )

"please show proof that MS harges $120 a yr"

$10 per month * 12 months = $120 a year.

Redgehammer5273d ago

Your account is set to renew to what ever your subscription is, IE family, yearly, monthly etc. If a person is not smart enough to realize they need to downgrade their membership, if they don't want to continue being billed, then maybe that person should not be in a decision making position.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio26d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing26d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9226d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit26d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing26d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9226d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay28d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn228d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn227d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown28d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay28d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay28d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac27d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger28d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300028d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde28d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde27d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7529d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_27d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.