@kaveti

"People who buy the Xbox 360 and/or the PS3 are not in it for the exclusives."

"Among PlayStation 3 owners (who currently represent 10 percent of all gamers), 42 percent own a Wii and 34 percent own an Xbox 360. However, among Xbox 360 owners (20 percent of all gamers), 42 percent own a Wii, but only 18 percent own a PlayStation 3."

Source: https://www.npd.com/press/r...

That's from NPD. A third of PS3 owners own 360s. A third. If that sample accurately reflects all console owners today around that world, that's anywhere from 15-20 million people who own both a PS3 and 360.

So, if not for exclusives, why do you think millions of people are buying both consoles? I'm going to take a guess and say exclusive games are a pretty big factor here.

Also, I found this "fact" of yours pretty funny...

"The fact that multiplatform games on the PS3 outsell PS3 exclusives shows that even PS3 owners show an elevated interest in multiplatform titles."

Really? Fact? Gimme a break. You have a library of hundreds of games, and you have been able to determine that on average, multiplatform games outsell exclusives? Got any source or hard numbers to back that up or are you just cobbling together whatever bits of information are floating around in that head of yours and calling it fact?

Unless you have something more reliable, and I'm guessing you don't, I'm going to go with VGchartz here. Of their list of top 50 selling PS3 games, 18 are exclusive. That's nearly 40% of the list. Obviously, two out of every five PS3 games released aren't exclusive, so that tells me that on average, exclusives do sell better. Go further down the list and the number of multiplatform games gets bigger at a much faster rate than the number of exclusives, meaning on average, PS3 exclusives do better than multiplatform games. If they only did as well as multiplatform games, they'd be more evenly distributed throughout the list.

Source: http://gamrreview.vgchartz....

If you've got some better source that proves me wrong, I'd love to see it.

Perhaps people buy both consoles so they can play with their friends who may own only one console or the other.

There are many reasons why people buy both consoles. Sometimes they buy one, and then they buy the other one later.

I purchased a 360 in 2007 and got a PS3 in 2009. I didn't do it for the exclusives. I'm not saying my anecdote is reflective of the whole population of console owners, but your hypothesis is not supported by any evidence, either.

Perhaps people buy both consoles because they get sucked into the marketing. Perhaps they buy both consoles because one was released a year before the other. And perhaps people are given consoles as gifts, so they didn't consciously go out and buy it for exclusives. Considering the PS3 was a cheap, high quality Blu-Ray player when it launched in 2006-7, perhaps many people purchased the PS3 for films rather than gaming.

There are many reasons why people purchase consoles, not least of which is simply marketing. The importance of exclusives is magnified on this website.

"What is a core game? Tell me, wise one.
All you do is speak abstractions."

maybe logic seems abstract to you?

besides, after your last two 'comments' it's hard to distinguish your original argument.

Your original comment defends the xbox360 and it's lack of exclusives in recent years.

"When a PS3 fanboy makes a list of 360 EXCLUSIVES and points out that there are only 3 or 4 of them, he's deliberately ignoring all the multiplatform games also being released on the 360, and he assumes that people who own a 360 care as much about exclusives as the PS3 fanboys do."

anyone can see the inherent stupidity in this paragraph.. (I highlighted the word exclusives because, why would multiplatform games be in a list of exclusives?)

The next comment is mainly backtracking, now instead of defending the 360 he is defending Multiplatform games, something which no one was critisizing in the first place.

and then he writes this gem

"People don't judge consoles based on exclusives because the most popular games aren't exclusives. When someone buys a console, it's usually because they don't want to invest in a computer capable of playing demanding games. It's usually teenagers or mothers of teenagers buying consoles because Call of Duty is the popular Christmas gift. "

You are telling me that the average console buyer would rather invest in a PC than a console but they do not have the money? ....... The average console buyer -as you paint them out to be, completely oblivious to console competition and exclusives- Thinks of PC gaming as sitting at a desk with a keyboard and mouse. I can tell you right now that the average gamer- the majority- will not think twice about choosing a console over a PC, You contradict yourself in a HUGE way right there. PC's are for more hardcore gamers, not the average christmas gift.

LOL what should I buy little bobby for christmas this year, an xbox? or an 8gb DDr3 570 GTX Quadcore PC?

Can't you see the contradiction in what your claiming?

The last comment is mainly backtracking on mr beatdowns, beatdown.

You use the word 'perhaps' one to many times for me to take that comment seriously.

N4G Is not a bubble Kaveti, it's one of many communities of gaming enthusiasts and no one claimed that it's opinions mimic those of the average gamer. but it does mimic those of the more hardcore around the web.

@kaveti

"but your hypothesis is not supported by any evidence, either."

Actually, it is. Like I pointed out, exclusives on average seem to sell better. If you look at the list of top 50 360 games, the same holds true. Of those 50 games, 18 are, or were at one point exclusive. Yet obviously nearly 40% of the games on 360 aren't exclusive so, like PS3 exclusives, with so many 360 exclusives being among the top sellers, it's clear they sell better on average. That tell's me there is an elevated interest in exclusives compared to multiplatform games.

Games are the primary use of game consoles. It's hardly a stretch to come to the conclusion that of those 15-20 million multiconsole owners, and even among those with only one system, a significant portion of them considered games available on each platform to be an important factor in their decision to buy more than one system.

All the reasons you suggest could very well be factors, but are simply assumptions, and even if they are true, the question still remains as to whether it was a big of a factor as games. I'm basing what I'm saying on evidence and basic common sense that games are a the primary reason to buy game consoles. You may think exclusives are given an unusual amount of focus on this site, but you have nothing outside of your own perception to back it up, and I think you're wrong. "PS3 has no games" became a meme for a reason.