Upgrading a combo size is dlc

Not according to some people, they complain about it so much that they seem to forget the fact that nobody is forcing them to have it.

Whoever disagreed with you has a lot to learn.

Mmm depends on how they price it. If it's a reasonable price then more profit to you Sony.

actually no, games SUPPORT the ability to save onto the gamecard, but it was also said that some games will NEED the extra memory card for the save file, that means you are being forced to buy the memory card just to play that game

Yes your wallet is getting raped because you will be required for some games....and obviously those will be the really good games. As for not be able to afford a Vita, when did you learn about my finances, I can afford plenty trust me, it is just a choice of choosing value which I don't see the Vita being. You don't go buying Lamborghinis just because you have the money too, unless your just trying to show off, and I'm not a little kid in Junior High so there is no need for that. But just like the more expensive PSP to DS argument the same will follow with the Vita to 3DS. All I know is Nintendo always gives you good value while Sony always price gouges its fans. That's not fanboy talk that's just fact.

yeah, the thing is, if they release a console with no internal memory, and say some games support saving to the game card, why leave the possibility of other games requiring an extra card? people shouldnt be forced to buy something when there is clearly an alternative.

OK,obviously you dont see them forcing you to pay for an additional memory card as a bad thing,which is sad that Sony has you so brainwashed into thinking having to buy extra things after you purchase your console as a good thing.Some games on Vita may just let you save on them but the fact is many wont and they REQUIRE a memory card.No,I wouldnt be ok with Nintendo forcing me to buy a memory card either for that matter but heres the difference.3DS games save on the game cards themselves and if you have other apps or programs that require a memory card guess what...Nintendo gives you one in the box,I am not forced to buy anything extra,so you fail on that argument buddy. And please don't go in to who copies who in videgames,Playstation wouldn't even exist if Nintendo hadnt approached them to make the Playstation for them as the Super Nintendo CD-rom. We all know Sony loves to take Nintendo ideas so dont start a flame war you cant win. Because all I know is that that button layout you love so much comes from SNES,those joysticks you love all come from N64 as well as that wonderful rumble,oh that wireless you like all comes from the Gamecube Wavebirds,and that lovely Move you like so much is a blatant copy of a Wii remote with Motion Plus,oh but wait Vita has a touch screen,AR and gyros,yea the DS had a touch screen for years and my 3DS has all those wonderful features already.Thanks for playing the who copies who game :p

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Actually the 3DS can take videos,actually it takes 3D videos as well as playing videos and running Netflix,browsing the web,Facebook,music,pictures etc so I dont see where you think your getting more value with a Vita when 3DS owners have all that except for Skype! And when did saying something is expensive mean that I cant afford it? Just because I have the money to buy something doesnt mean I cant look at the value of said item "Vita" and say its too expensive.Its called being a smart consumer and putting your money where value is at.Trust me I dont need to brag, but I have a very good job with a very big company, but that is irrelvant to this argument.

As for predicting the future,no I am not a psychic, but have you ever heard the term "history repeats itself"??? And has Nintendo ever given up the handheld market ever???? Plus Vita handing over the first Christmas season is a big mistake now that the 3DS has 3 big guns out already Mario Land 3D,Mario Kart 7 and Monster Hunter Tri in Japan. If your going be a total Sony fanboy, at least try to come up with good valuable arguments to debate with me. And by the way,try looking at the yearly sales of the 3DS this year and tell me how you expect Vita to catch up to that number so quickly following the holiday rush !

What difference does it make? Sony would have to raise the price of the VITA even if they included any amount of memory. All devices do this. They charge more for what ever about of memory the device has.

The only difference here is that Sony is selling the memory separately. The Ipad costs more money according to the amount of memory you need. What difference does it make if they charged you $30.00 more for the VITA with the memory inside or $30.00 with the memory outside? Would it have made you feel better if they hid the cost of internal memory in the price?

Because the cost for the memory card is the same regardless of the size, so instead of overpricing every card, they give us a small amount of internal memory so we can play ANY game without problems, and those who want to download full games can purchase the 32-64gb

that way people get a choice instead of being forced to buy something, and we dont end up essentially buying an incomplete product.

And even worse when Sony shows that game saves can be stored in the game card, but on purpose(dont see any other reason why) leave the option for other games to require extra memory

Better to just buy and own them, tbh.

That's the secret: i only upgrade at the end of my yearly Extra for maybe one or two months, to play classics that would interest me or for them easy plats.
Tekken 2 and 3 I'd bought.

Keep in mind that if you bought the ps1 classics back in the day you get the new versions for free. I got dino crisis, re2 and re3 even though I'm not subscribed to anything.

So if you bought Dino Crisis 2 back then check before you subscribe when the new version comes out.

Sony's classic catalog is pretty bad. It should be twice its size. At least , probably 3x the size. They are taking the square Enix approach where they wait so long to give their audience what they want that most of their fans are dying/dead. They are chasing failure with this one and there is no one in leadership with the balls to succeed. Thats how I feel about their classics program.

The disagrees come from the fanboys who believe Sony can do no wrong. sigh.
And you're right about the classics, I only play them for the trophies. At this rate, i'd rather downgrade to the Extra tier the next time I resub. Premium my a$$.

You said something less than glowing about someone's favorite box. Does not matter if it's true or not. The tribalism demands pushback.