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5 biggest Xbox VGA upsets

Now the VGAs are over, it seems some Xbox gamers are feeling a little left out.

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jazzking20015275d ago

After that trailer, Rising is definitely one of the biggest upsets

RaidensRising5275d ago

Looks at one's own avatar, hangs head in shame. Such promise. Then all is shattered. Should still be a fun game because Raiden is so awkwardly bad ass.

StanLee5275d ago

Rising never looked promising. The expectations were based solely on KojiPro and what they had done with the Metal Gear franchise. I think it's more promising as a action/slasher concept with Platinum at the helm.

lociefer5275d ago

theyr complaining about not getting a new ip / mgs4 , wouldnt it be just easier to get a ps3 and feed ur gaming needs ? i mean lets face it with all the exclusives and blockbusters sony been making its really hard not to own a ps3

da_2pacalypse5274d ago

@lociefer yeah and who doesn't have an xbox by now? xbox for online gaming, ps3 for the exclusives :) life is good :)

pc_masterrace5274d ago

@da_2pacalypse

Well I don't have one but I'm not going to hate on someone that does..that's just silly. So are you saying that online gaming isn't as good on the PS3 when compared to the Xbox?

Megaman_nerd5274d ago

If you liked Bayonetta and Vanquish then there's a big chance you're gonna enjoy Rising even if it sucks as a Metal Gear game. =/

Godmars2905274d ago

Raising was more of a PR statement than a real game. It wasn't properly thought-out or developed before it was announced and rolled, as a result was canceled, and now a new game is being brought out with its name in an attempt to save face.

Who's face exactly, who knows.

EVILDEAD3605274d ago (Edited 5274d ago )

LMAO @ not ONE 360 owner even CLOSE to mad after the VGAs

LMAO @ the hit trolls trying to REEEEACH so hard on this one they barely could come up with five?

Last of Us is one game period..Love Naughty Dog and I'm sure it will be a great game as always..but please name ANYONE who is upset that Naughty Dog makes exclusives for the PS3.

Maybe in the fake MSWORLD whose agenda has been clear since day one that 360 owners are mad

But in the REAL world 360 owners are just as excited as anyone else after the VGAs

Mass Effect 3
Bioshock Infinite
Rainbow 6: Patriots
Metal Gear Rising

Those alone are huge

Since MSWORLD doeasnt have a clue about Alan Wake they have to take the fan kid route and pretend that the Alan Wake Nightmare is 'more of the same'..well guess what? That an f-ing good thing..I'll take another Alan experience in 2012.

This is all in a year where we may see Grand Theft Auto 5 and a console Diablo III

But, come Next winter it will all be about the return of Master Chief and Halo 4..

Sorry MSWORLD..360 owners are just fine

Evil

Iroquois_Pliskin5274d ago

Wow ms-xboxworld if you are so upset you cant play the last of us and mgs4, why dont you guys stop being fanboys and get a ps3!?

FACTUAL evidence5274d ago

Man, not even trolling; but xbox only owners should be used to feeling left out when it comes to new games being announced. They never get exclusives.

Skip_Bayless5274d ago

If you haven't played MGS4 yet then then the suprise and awe factor has worn out. You should definitely play it, but playing that game when it first came out in 2008 really benefited that game.

Back on topic about the VGAs:
Isn't Fortnite a multiplatform game?

Alan Wake 2 is gonna be a good game.

Why o why5274d ago

'Sorry MSWORLD..360 owners are just fine '....ah, lol you're kidding right

Some are fine some are not. You do not speak for everybody...its really NOT that hard to fathom evil. That only '1 new ip' is one more added to all the others remember and 1 is better than none. Ill agree that, that site is a troll site but for differing reasons. You are happy with the few exclusives to the point where it seems you like them ALL so im gunna call you a true gamer. Not like easily pleased but more the open minded type or not too picky...If thats the case then wouldnt you want MORE games to choose from on top of all of the good to great multiplatform games huh? huh? Its such a shame when people list every title confirmed to come yet shun or ridicule those who want more to choose from ¬_¬

I agree with stan about mgr possibly being a better game because of platinums games involvement. Liked vanquish and respected bayonetta so they have a strong calibre in the genre and IF somebody asked me if i would of liked a hack n slash action game in the metal gear universe I would bite their hands off...I dont even care about how the fanboys or fans were screaming from the hills because a metal gear solid was heading to the 360.....It was questioned at the time due to Kijimas actions and words at the time so recent events came as no shock to me BUT that doesnt mean im not STILL interested in the title whatever his involvement.....I like more games.....simple

MysticStrummer5274d ago

"But in the REAL world 360 owners are just as excited as anyone else after the VGAs

Mass Effect 3
Bioshock Infinite
Rainbow 6: Patriots
Metal Gear Rising

Those alone are huge"

PS3 owners get those too. Not sure if you knew. The Last of Us trailer was the best reveal at the VGAs. That said, 360 owners have been successfully conditioned to get excited about games that can be played elsewhere so you're probably right saying most of them don't care.

Blogz4Fanboyz5274d ago

i dont really understand the thinking on n4g or the plethora of leech sites..

so an exclusive game automatically makes it better than a multi-plat?? is that what this boils down to?

coz for me, there was not one exclusive game last gen that was better than the gta games (multi) and the bf games (multi) piss all over anything exclusive on-line this gen!!

that is just two franchises off of the top of my head....i could name more!!

i have a ps360, 360 for everything and ps3 for the exclusive game i cant get anywhere else. but in all honesty, i could live without my ps3.

sorry kids, dont shoot me for my opinions. remember, me saying that was NOT an attack on a family member...

EVILDEAD3605273d ago (Edited 5273d ago )

'Some are fine some are not. You do not speak for everybody...its really NOT that hard to fathom evil. That only '1 new ip' is one more added to all the others remember and 1 is better than none'

I know you probably believe in the troll fodder spewed from any site, but 'it's not hard to fathom' that just because a new IP comes from ANYBODY it means that every gamer on the other console are supposedly depressed.

Please keep your fan goggles on in the MS-World bubble if you do. But, step in the real world and understand that the anticipation level for the games I mentioned clearly outweigh some fantasy fankid depression that doesnt not exist.

The best part is your '1 is better than none' comment. LOL @ your goggles are on so tight that you are now pretending that a few early trailers from the VGAs mean that those are ALL of the 360 games coming out this year.

I laugh at the whole bu-bu-but you are getting excited about games that are on other consoles. This is the most flawed logic that fan kifs come up with these days. Instead of enjoying amazing games, they spend the entire year arguing exclusives.

I own all of this gens consoles, and I could care less about the fan kid console war mindset spewed in the deep reaches of fan kiddie world.

For instance, if you only own a 360 and purchased and love Skyrim (GOTY), the fan kiddie mentality this gen is that you CLEARLY can't love the game because it's also offered on the PS3.

LOL..please keep believing this and repeat it every day you can and hopefully you will ACTUALLY believe it yourself.

I'm LMAO at how supposedly one new IP announced for the PS3 next year means 'doom and gloom' for the 360, but this year no new IPs and of course not one peep either.

Back on topic, It's a Naughty Dog game we know their pedigee and the game is going to be fantastic..we will all play it about 10-11 months from now. There won't be any massive depression coming from 360 owners because they will be playing great multis and exclusives on their system as well.

And for the record..MSWORLD is FAR an actual 360 site that they pretend to be..

Get the memo..gaming is alive..the console war is dead..

Evil

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StraightPath5275d ago

Well Halo 4 is coming next year this will be huge.

Getowned5275d ago

-looks at your disagrees- really people, really?! lol guess halo isn't huge ohh n4g you funny :D.

Oh well I'll be playing Twisted metal all year next year :P

TWISTED METAL FOR LIFE!!!

Halo video V LOL

CaptainPunch5274d ago

Not sure why people disagreed with you

da_2pacalypse5274d ago

halo 4 will be awesome... this site is just filled with ps3 trolls...

CryofSilence5274d ago (Edited 5274d ago )

I think people are disagreeing because his comment is completely unrelated to the article. This was about the VGAs, not what's up and coming for the console. Who knows?

MachineGunTalk5274d ago

wow so many disagrees probably the fanboys who are jealous lool

dcortz20275274d ago

Ha, Halo 4 will get destroyed by the next COD game. No one cares about Halo anymore! The only games people play on the 360 is Call Of Duty and Kinect.

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DragonKnight5274d ago

@Getowned: Your comment about Halo V reminded me of a video.

If you haven't seen this despite how old it is, you have to watch it.

http://loadingreadyrun.com/...

SilentNegotiator5274d ago (Edited 5274d ago )

@Getowned

Or MAYBE....Halo 4 has nothing to do with the VGAs or the comment he replied to? Just because people hit disagree, doesn't mean they disagree entirely with everything said in the comment.

If a comment is completely off-topic, I am going to hit the disagree button.

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Jappy-k75275d ago (Edited 5275d ago )

haters need to shut up, MGR was about lightning bolt action since it was announced, the game is now set after MGS4, most importantly Kojima Productions is still in charge of story and cutscenes, happy?

seriously guys, 2 great devs working together to make the game, what could possibly go wrong?

DaveMan5275d ago

Agreed!!!

If you've seen the extended trailer, or the behind the scenes documentary (with the gameplay bits)

then you'll see how much of a kickass game this is turning out to be. Yes MGS fans have a right to be upset. This game is a complete 360 of what they expected and what there used to seeing in MGS game. Obviously some of them won't accept this concept, not because Rising is a bad game, but rather it strays away from the series roots.

But, it's a spin-off, and Kojima has practically confirmed that MGS 5 is in development. Rising looks extremely fluid and actiony and looks like a really awesome action game. I have no doubt this could be 2012's Vanquished or Bayonetta.

Christopher5275d ago

@Jappy-k7: You should really watch the recent 25-minute video on the transition. You would find that PlatinumGames is actually making a lot of the decision. Sure, they have to be approved by Kojima, but they are the ones making the decisions and Kojima is just going "we like this".

Here's the video if you missed it: http://n4g.com/news/905286/...

byrnezy5274d ago

@daveman
"2012 vanquish or bayonetta"

That is half the problem, plat games are crap

QuodEratDemonstrandm5274d ago

"What could possibly go wrong?"
Edward Smith probably asked that very question as he set sail on his last voyage as a sea captain, aboard the HMS Titanic.
How many executives at American International Group asked that question when they started selling Credit Default Swaps?

"What could possibly go wrong?"

Famous last words.

Right next to, "Hey Billy Ray! Watch THIS!!"

Of course, I could be wrong. I'll rent it. Metal Gear just isn't the same without the Solid. I like sneaking, Sue me.

Tanir5274d ago

exactly jappy

people weren't this upset when MGS became a card game on the psp, heck they made 2 of them, yet no one accepts an action spin off....wtf

Prophet-Gamer5274d ago

The gameplay looked stiff and boring tbh. I'm not looking forward to it. Not to mention the graphics are sub-par, and platinum is definitely not known for their great stories.....I don't know how to get excited for this game, everything about just screams mediocre. The trailer didn't help either.

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ZippyZapper5275d ago

MGR looks better than Ninja Gaiden 3. PS3 fanboys are just pissed because MG in on 360 now.

SnotyTheRocket5274d ago

good luck getting the story, and only reason its on 360 is cuz kojima is half assing it

Pintheshadows5274d ago

Not really, Rising just looks poor.

Kungfue5274d ago (Edited 5274d ago )

LOL the only reason you like it even tho it looks or plays nothing like MGS game is because MGS4 never came in to your crappy system and this is the only alternative you got.

InTheLab5274d ago (Edited 5274d ago )

Not that you can respond or anything, but MGS2 was on the original Xbox, and the HD collection is on the 360.

There's the Twin Snakes for the Gamecube.

Snake Eater is on the 3DS.

Most of them are on PC.

Metal Gear started out on a Microsoft platform called the MSX2.

Both Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 are on the NES.

MGS4 is currently the ONLY Metal Gear Solid that's exclusive.

Too many of you younger gamers spout off crap without knowing what you're talking about. You kids need to educate yourselves on the history of our industry.

Shame on the 4 of you that agreed.

kreate5274d ago

@inthelab

yea thanks for the wikipedia'd info there old timer.
not trying to defend the fanboys but the playstation is what made metal gear solid so popular.

Pikajew5274d ago (Edited 5274d ago )

MGS: the twin snakes was a gamecube exclusive and Snake appeared in Smash Bros Brawl. He was gonna be in Melee but it was in to far in development so he wasn't able to be in it

MGS was never a Sony exclusive

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D3mons0ul5274d ago

And Ninja Gaiden is on PS3 now.

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Pixel_Enemy5274d ago

I clicked on the article to see what they possibly had to say about The Last of Us.. Turns out they are upset that it is not going to be on the 360.. HAHAHAHAHA Must really suck to be a one console owner. Missing out on PS3 exclusives just seems dumb to me.

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TheBlackMask5275d ago (Edited 5275d ago )

If they feel left out maybe they should complain/pester Microsoft more instead of eating up whatever crap they throw at them.....honestly I get the loyal thing but some Xbox 360 fanboys need to wake up and realise that Microsoft just don't give a sh*t about core gamers anymore

Time to jump ship.....if you don't and give in to whatever Microsoft gives you then thats all going to effect the next gen Xbox. I mean PS3 owners made it known about the price problem with the PS3 and the launch games, plus the developers have made it known that it's not easy to develop for and what do Sony do....they make the PSV and take this three problems into account. I bet they do the same when making the PS4 but if your going to ear up all this casual shit and lie with a fake smile going "THANKS MICROSOFT" :).....then they won't feel the need to change tatics.

Oh and I have to disagree about Alan Wake, it looks differen't....too differen't. I mean it dosen't feel like an Alan Wake game and they've brought in a lot of questions which don't even relate to the ending of the last DLC.....how is Alan in the real world now, why is he traveling around, how does he know about other places like the lake, So Mr Scratch is full on evil now, machine guns/explosives....really, for a writter Alan dosen't look like a one anymore (casual clothes) and overall it looks more action like then story based.....MS would sacrafice what makes an AW game...an AW game just so they can sell more copies.

house5275d ago

i really hope that isn't the case next gen! don't get me wrong i love PlayStation but i also like for them to have competition.. it brings out the best of everyone and it = win for gamers

-Alpha5275d ago (Edited 5275d ago )

Actually, most Xbox fans don't seem to care and are content with what they have. I wouldn't be happy, but that's why I sold my Xbox.

They also seem to enjoy the multiplatform games better, either because their versions are not bad ports or they are accustomed to XBL/Achievements. This is where MS has done well: they've hooked their audience from the start with Achievements and integrated social features so starting all over again on PlayStation Network isn't something current owners would want to do.

MS seems to have realized this, which is why they pay for timed exclusives and it is also why they have expanded into the family audience. That's my biggest annoyance with MS, they went from being so game-centric (while Sony was so focused on being a "media" hub) and now they are so family oriented while Sony is constantly promoting gaming.

All this within one generation.

TheBlackMask5275d ago (Edited 5275d ago )

I think they don't care because they know Microsoft don't care about them.

At one time back in 2005/2006 when the Xbox 360 was released it was all about exclusives, graphics and how much a company cared about it's fans. Now that Sony are doing things better then MS now 360 fans feel the need to go on about Sales, profits and how much money the company is making....because thats all MS talk about and if thats what they talk about then thats what fanboys are going to think is important.

I think with MS it goes kind of like...

"So there not really mad about us focusing more on money, kinect and the casual audiences"

"Seems that way....some talk here and there but I think thery'e eating up whatever we throw at them, if thats what they like then we should just milk it as much as we can now

"Ooooo yeah lets do that......we need more timed exclusives, kinect games and a bigger push into the casual audience. It's a win/win....they'll eat up whatever we throw at them and we'll be making lots and lots of money."

I think Sony found a balance with the PS3 being a media hub. It established the PS3 when it first came out as a media hub aswell as a gaming console that now they really don't need to mention it, all their focus is on gaming while Microsoft seems late to the party because there making it worse for their fans because instead of just ignoring them with casual games there also trying to make money off the Xbox being a media hub....when it was never one in the first place.

With MS, gamers always come last now

Biggest5275d ago

I've already resigned myself to the fact that people are loyal because people are loyal. It's the reason Boheim said what he said a few weeks ago. It's the reason Gingrich is doing well in polls right now. It's the reason that Lowes pulled ads from a show. People have loyalties and don't care about truth or consequence. Xbox 360 loyalists are happy with what they're getting. PS3 loyalists are happy with what they get. All that's left to do is make fun of those I don't agree with.

Redgehammer5275d ago (Edited 5275d ago )

MS has done well just carving a place for itself in the platform holder arena. Actually, I think it is great that all the consoles have done so well this generation. I am just personally glad that there are other viable option rather than just Sony and Nintendo. I have been treated great by MS, and consider the money I have spent (and will spend in the future) to be pleasure expenses, and well worth it to me and my son's.

Jobesy5275d ago (Edited 5275d ago )

I'll just say this. My 10 yr old had a choice between a 360 and PS3. He couldn't decide so he asked me for advice. I'm neutral to the fanboy crap so I told him to make a pro/con list.

For the 360 he came up with better chat options, better looking dashboard, and Gears and Halo.

For PS3, he came up with free online play, much more exclusives and many of his friends were starting to get a PS3 (plus dad had one for co op games).

So, my point is, even a 10 yr old can see where the value lies. I don't dislike the 360, but for a gamer who chooses to own just 1 system, the winner is clear as to which is about gaming and which is better for socializing. Btw, he got a PS3 ; )

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andibandit5274d ago

@THeBlackmask

According to N4G users(not my opinion), the PS3 had no issue with:

1.price, because you got wireless, free blueray player etc...etc....+ kitchen sink.

2.Developer friendliness, because developers just need 2 Learn How 2 Program.

Im amazed that you didn't get disgreed all the way into 2012, but i guess your wall of text masked those anti PS3 statements.

kurochi5274d ago (Edited 5274d ago )

wait, are we living in 2006 or are we actually living in 2011 going to 2012? In 2006, yes I agree that the 360 had more exclusives and it was great. Now? Hands down, Sony has more. Like most people who play games, "TheBlackmask" go where the games are. Stop muddling facts, it doesn't bode well for you.

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Redgehammer5275d ago (Edited 5275d ago )

Why should I be upset? As far as I am concerned the Video Game Awards have as much credibility as a crack ho'. I refuse to watch the VGA's, since I do not feel it is a program I can watch with my kids. I love my 360 and look forward to playing all the great games that are on it now, and in the future. I really do not understand the stance that somehow 360 owners are being shortchanged. \

John Kratos5275d ago

It's simple really, you can get all those great games on 360 and more. That's the shortchangeing feeling. Sony is putting out new IPs and established exclusives at an amazing rate, plus the PS3 owner also gets all those great multiplats like Mass Effect 3, Bioshock Infinite, and GTA 5. While Microsoft gives Gears, Halo, and Fable and no new major IPs.

Then add in the fact that the PC is also getting some of the 360's exclusives like Fable 3 and Alan Wake,(which I'm picking on PC, because I loved it on the 360). There's a lot of factual basis to the whole 360 is getting is the short end of the stick arguement, not just fanboy drivel.

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John Kratos5274d ago (Edited 5274d ago )

Here's the thing, I don't care about what console sales, I care about games. I'm going to play games no matter the platform, but you can't sit here and say well the the 360 doesn't have as many exclusive games, so that nulls the PS3's exclusives and and now multiplats are way better. Now whether or not you like those exclusives is up to, but you can't deny that the PS3 has an advantage in the games department due to the great multiplatforms it gets and the great exclusives it gets. Again I'm not saying a lack of exclusive hurts the 360's success, because it has been very successfull this gen, but from a gamers point of few the PS3 has an advantage when it comes to games, and that's due to the strong first and second party that Sony has. I'm not demonizing anyone with a 360, I own one myself obviously, but one console can be better than the other and not in a fanboy sense. I know it comes down to personal preference and yada, yada, yada,.

Also you say it doesn't hurt the 360 to have new IP coming out in it's 6th or 7th year, but it does this gen, because this gen is undoubtedly longer than the last one. So yes I want new games, cause the new consoles are still at least 2 years away, meaning the 360 and ps3 are the main focus, contrary to last time when in the 6th and 7th years, the next gen system were there and into their first years.

It's short sighted to look at 360 exclusives this year, no it's not. A lot of core gamers who care about games have had a 360 or Ps3 for a couple of years now, so more likely than not they've already played those games. And why should that excuse Microsoft for the piss poor efforts on the first party front, we don't have exclusives but you can go play old games. Pretty lame.

Let me just conclude in saying that, if you own a 360 and love it great, I like mine also. It is a good console and defiantly better than the original Xbox, but prefer my PS3, and that's cool. And you can hate the PS3 exclusives or think they suck and that's cool as well, you're entitled to your opinion, just like me and everyone else, but to sit and say that the PS3 doesn't have an advantage, with it's exclusives, and it doesn't matter that the 360 doesn't have any exclusives because all the great games are multiplatform, is wrong.

kurochi5274d ago

nicely put Kratos. It's nice to see some logic instead of brainwashed fanboy-ism on N4G.
You buy the platform for it's games. Exclusives are still what drives people to buy consoles.

Game3s5275d ago

The VGA's is not even credible, is just a commercial for the big publishers to boost their games.

CYBERHATER5275d ago

The only thing disappointing is this article lol.

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