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Why We Don't Like Mainstream Games

Among the “true hardcore gaming” community, there seems to be a general hate of mainstream games like Call of Duty and Halo as well as casual and portable games such as Wii Fit and iPod/iPad apps.

But wait…have you ever stopped and thought, “mainstream = majority. The majority is…well…almost everyone. So why aren’t I part of it?” Why aren’t you part of the mainstream? What happened to you somewhere along your life that you’d play and enjoy some lesser known jrpg/wrpg over say, for example, Black Ops? Why do you like EBA over Guitar Hero/Rock Band? What made you prefer Harvest Moon or Rune Factory over Farmville?

versusALL5284d ago

I don't agree. While games like Call of duty and guitar hero are just copy and paste jobs, There are many mainstream games that do not fall to this.

comradestalin5284d ago

Agreed. But there seems to be a sort of prevailing gaming-hipster motif where mainstream generally means bad or inferior quality, when in many instances this is indeed not the case.

Megaton5284d ago

I liked Call of Duty. I'll still enjoy it in small doses, or on a first run through a campaign. It's really getting old, though. The game is copypasta at this point.

I think it also comes from the mainstream base claiming it's the best game/series of all time, like a bunch of bros who never played another FPS in their life aside from Halo. Who wants to be a part of such ignorance?

bozebo5284d ago (Edited 5284d ago )

Halo isn't really "mainstream" because it is actually good. Infact, a masterpiece. They actually put effort into each new release and the games' quality shines every time. Halo 4 will probably be crap though, but any goodness in it comes from their ownership of the source code from Bungie's good work - not 343 Industry's efforts. They have the winning "feel" of Halo just like Activision have the winning "feel" of CoD:

CoD just keeps getting worse because they lost the staff that were capable of making decent maps and gameplay decisions. The core gameplay is still very good though because they (Activision) basically stole the code off the former IW employees who made it so good in the first place.

The next awesome FPS games are going to come from Bungie and Respawn. I doubt they will release anything till they have perfected it because they actually care about the game they are making, though they are involved with EA which will probably spell disaster (bugs, bugs, bugs, bugs and more bugs)

Valve are also slowly becoming evil, Portal 2 and L4D2 were just money grapping titles and I bet CS:GO is going to be crap because they wan't it to be playable on consoles (which means it'll suck on PC too) even though no console gamer even cares about CS. HL3 will launch with their next iteration of the Source engine which will probably be aimed at consoles too (next gen) even though PC hardware has stepped up a generation and is ready for Valve's pampering like they did the last 2 times that happened, also - console gamers are not interested (marketing will fix that though of course).

Megaton5284d ago

Calling Portal 2 a money grab is one of the most absurd things I've ever seen on this site, and that's saying a lot. It improved upon the original tenfold.

ChickeyCantor5283d ago

"Halo isn't really "mainstream" because it is actually good"

I suggest you buy yourself a dictionary.

bozebo5283d ago

Do you know what putting something in " implies?

Also, why the hell would I buy a dictionary if I have the internet.

cya troll

ChickeyCantor5283d ago

You are implying that mainstream == bad.
Which isn't true at all.

You might use the internet for it, but sure in hell you never use it.

LOL.

bozebo5283d ago

"You are implying that mainstream == bad"

No. Infact I argued in Halo's favour.

Games that are good are good, and games that are bad are bad. Regardless of if they are mainstream or not, that is my standpoint.

TheFirstClassic5283d ago

I agree with megaton, how can you possibly consider Portal 2 a money grab? They doubled the campaign, not to mention improved the voice acting, presentation, and levels, but also added one of the best co op modes I have played this year.

FourGees5284d ago

Call of Duty is mainstream but its for casuals AND the core.
The casuals won't have a good K/D ratio and will probably only play Team deathmatch. The core will play a variety of modes and will play CTF, Domination...etc

Hicken5284d ago

There's so much more to this than he thinks. And, honestly, IQ has nothing to do with it. Actually, I was a little angry at the sentence "Thus, the majority of people in the United States have an IQ of 100 or less." Even as much as I hate math- beyond attempting to divide by zero- I know that his statement of the average being at 100 rather negates his claim that most people are at or below that level, when the majority should be within a certain range both above AND below 100.

Outside of that, I think the "hardcore" crowd dislikes mainstream games largely because of how they negatively affect niche titles. I'm certain that Valkyria Chronicles and Lost Odyssey would have seen far better sales, if so many people weren't blind to anything that WASN'T a shooter. And the fact that these games (the mainstream) do so well means that more of them will be made; this, in turn, means less money and time will go towards the more marginalized titles.

bozebo5284d ago

this ^

So many times over.

+ bubs for well said.

ShaunCameron5284d ago (Edited 5284d ago )

<Outside of that, I think the "hardcore" crowd dislikes mainstream games largely because of how they negatively affect niche titles.>

Not really. Some niche titles still wouldn't have sold much no matter what other titles be out there of the day.

<I'm certain that Valkyria Chronicles and Lost Odyssey would have seen far better sales, if so many people weren't blind to anything that WASN'T a shooter.>

Not really. For every Call Of Duty and Gears Of War, there's hundreds upon hundreds of Rage's and Quantum Theory's that barely sell at all. As much as people like shooter games, they're not gonna buy every one that comes out.

VC and LO done about as good as they could possibly do considering the decline in the Japanese RPG genre's popularity and those titles not really adding much to the genre.

<And the fact that these games (the mainstream) do so well means that more of them will be made; this, in turn, means less money and time will go towards the more marginalized titles.>

Unfortunately, it's just good ol' fashioned supply-and-demand.

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