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Microsoft rumored to be continuing with multiple launch SKU's - Why they shouldn't?

GUFUYourself looks at the latest next-gen rumor, and adds some brief thoughts on the matter.

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blumatt5287d ago (Edited 5287d ago )

As long as the base (cheap) model isn't a complete stripper then it won't be a huge deal. I hope their lowest SKU still has a good sized hard drive, like over 80GB. A 4GB console just doesn't cut it for most people. And make sure that the low console isn't void of certain feature like Wifi either. Not everyone can plug an ethernet cable into their console. Sometimes it's just not feasible.

Price is gonna be more important for both the NextBox and PS4. I want to see $400 consoles this next gen, personally. Out of the gate, $400. I want affordability this time. Price is what hurt the PS3 more than the 1 year headstart. Neither helped though.

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Captain Qwark 95287d ago

i dont care as much about the price as long as its not over 500, thats still alot of money and a hell of an investment but if it last me 5+ years, i dont mind.

more importantly, if there going this stupid route again, make sure they have enough of the good system this time around so those who want it can get it. they had the cheap sku on the shelves all the time around here for the first few months, but the good one always sold out in minutes. it was irritating to say the least.

also, like you said, make sure the cheap one isnt a complete bare bones system. this way the devs can at least take advantage of the hdd this time around.

BlmThug5287d ago

I want it to be max $500 so that they dont skimp on parts such as RAM

Captain Qwark 95287d ago (Edited 5287d ago )

thats actually a good point, in fact i would prefer it be $500ish if that means i get higher end parts and the possibility the system ages very well, similar to the current systems

@driod...

i think thats would actually be a good model, send them a letter lol

C_Menz5287d ago

RAM will have nothing to do with the cost of next gen consoles. 8gb of RAM costs $40 retail for PC(thus the retailer buying it for around $20). So that hardly raises the price. Most of the price is located in the cpu/gpu sections along with the development costs.

Another thing to keep in mind is if they do launch in 2012(doubtful) they will have to deal with the skyrocketed HDD costs due to flooding. Previously a 1tb HDD was around $80 for a good one, however now they are close to $180-$200.

r1sh125287d ago

@blumatt..
Totally agree, the idea and theory is great but if they execute it like the 4Gb and the 120/250/320Gb models its a complete waste.
The whole stupid arcade/4gb has really got MS in a bad position where they are forcing some dev's to create dis versions of DLC. Obviously not for map packs (COD etc) but with DLC like the GTA IV expansion.

I think they probably have learnt from a few minor setbacks, and they will make sure that the main components will be in there and the hardware has to be identical.

Felinox5286d ago

The really sneaky thing about the 4 Gb model is it's not actually a hard drive. Its a flash drive made to look look a hard drive. That's why ther've been problems with certain installs like BF3 texture pack.
From a cost cutting point it's genius.. sneaky but genius. Since i found this out I've wondered if this why MS started allowing flash drives in first place...

Droid Control5287d ago (Edited 5287d ago )

As long as the CORE model has a large HDD as standard I don't care. I will buy the PREMIUM model though.

I hope the PREMIUM doesn't have KINECT in the box though.
I don't think many hardcore gamers want that.

Really, M$ should sell 3 SKU's

1. CORE - basic console.
2. PREMIUM - high end console with larder HDD
3. ELITE - High end console with Kinect

user8586215287d ago

So its ok when Sony did it by removing memory cards, backwards compatibility, wifi

But when Microsoft do it then this site has a fit?

BuffMordecai5287d ago

I don't remember sony ever removing wifi, but I do remember the 360 not having it as default in the beginning, having RROD (and my console magically got it days after the warranty ran out), and charging out the ass for a cheap wifi adapter.

RavensmashSK5287d ago

This is an article purely relating to the recent next gen rumours for MS.

I'm not going to bring in Sony/Nintendo when it's frankly irrelevant.

Jdrm035287d ago

people are not understanding the two sku thing.

The lowest model is not a game console first. It's a media device with kinect integration firfst and as a second thought some dlc kinect game possibilities.

You won't see Halo, Gears, or any other real game on it.

The actual game console will have all the features the media device sku has, but actually be a gaming console first where you will find all of yoru real games on.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio17d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing17d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9217d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit17d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing17d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9217d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay19d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn219d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn219d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown19d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay19d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay19d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac18d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger19d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300019d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde19d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde19d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7520d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_18d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.