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I don't mind cheating in Uncharted 3

Uncharted 3's taxing puzzles break the gamer's sense of immersion. "Cheating" is an acceptable solution.

THR1LLHOUSE5316d ago

It kinda reminds me of one of the big cases in L.A. Noire...It's the end of your homocide beat, I believe (and that's all I'll say so I don't spoil such an awesome case), and if you take too long trying to solve a puzzle the game starts throwing hints at you, almost ruining the coolness of it. That bothered me a lot.

Of course, a detective does spend more time contemplating things than an Indiana Jones...so maybe that's why it's more excusable here?

StraightPath5316d ago

The story had few problems, I thought there was going to be some wierd vodo twist regrading talbot but nothing. No background to the villains really.

JBaby3435316d ago (Edited 5316d ago )

I was glad there was no magical twist this time. The villains never really have fleshed out stories in the Uncharted series but for the most part enough details are given about their lives to get a sense of who they are and why they are doing what they are doing. Talbot was the only one I could have used more backstory on. I really enjoyed how they showed the history of Drake and Sully though.

On Topic: There is only one puzzle I had to cheat on *SPOILER ALERT* the one where you had to put the scepter in the the correct hole to complete the statue scene. I kept trying to align things with the one already there and that turned out not to be the point but through the wording I misunderstood what the point was.

NagaSotuva5316d ago

I already have the online guide bookmarked.

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banjadude5316d ago (Edited 5316d ago )

"Funny", these same people complain that games are getting too easy. Seems like the nitpicking in Uncharted 3 will never end.

kneon5316d ago

Next we'll have people demanding that you should never be able to die in games as it ruins the immersion.

I didn't find that any of the puzzles affected the immersion or pacing of the game. I can't recall any puzzles that required being solved under duress, they were all in slow parts of the game so it didn't really matter if it took 1 minute or 1 hour. Unless of course all you care about is the gun fights, in which case you're playing the wrong game.

TheoreticalParticle5316d ago

I haven't played Uncharted 3, but I'm going to tell you that to everyone except for people trying to facetiously prove a point, that making a game difficult for the sake of making it difficult is an entirely different thing than making a game enjoyable and difficult.

Look at SNK's "Boss Syndrome", where the boss has amped up health, damage, and move execution speed. To all but a small minority, losing to a guy like that over and over is NOT FUN. It defeats the purpose of the game which is is supposed to, at the end of the day, be entertainment.

When people complain that games are too easy, they don't want a game that just kicks their ass for the sake of not being easy. They want an enjoyable challenge. They want something that taxes their abilities in a way that requires thought and an above-average level of skill to beat.

Whether or not Uncharted 3 does this, I cannot say, but being a blatant U3 fanboy and reduce the argument to "herp-derp, game's too hard, I thought games were too easy, herp-derp, amirite" doesn't actually help anything.

banjadude5316d ago (Edited 5316d ago )

@ Theoretical

Well, this guy's rant isn't helping either, when he says he has to "cheat" b/c the puzzles were too difficult for him; others found the puzzles to be a fair challenge, and this article only fuels the [ceaseless] animosity/nitpicking towards Uncharted 3. That much, you cannot deny.

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Uncharted Cast Doesn’t Take the Games’ Success For Granted at MCM Comic-Con

During MCM Comic Con London X EGX, CGM got the chance to be part of a press group interview with the stars of the Uncharted titles, namely the legendary Nolan North, who played protagonist Nathan Drake, Emily Rose, who portrayed Elena Fisher and Richard McGonagle, who took on the role of Victor ‘Sully’ Sullivan,

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Analyzing 'Uncharted: Drake’s Deception' – Wait, What is The Game About?

Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception has a lot to live up to as Uncharted 2: Among Thieves is an incredible and near-perfect game.

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Profchaos1668d ago

It's about retirement...oh wait

UNCHARTED2FANATIC1668d ago (Edited 1668d ago )

I cant even say what the point was its easily the worst story in the series. The online was a whole lot of fun though but overall doesn't come even close to 2

porkChop1668d ago (Edited 1668d ago )

It was a step back for sure. Personally, I thought even the MP was way better in U2. Solid game, glad I played it. I just think they didn't push as hard as they did with U2.

UNCHARTED2FANATIC1663d ago

Yes both the online and story was better in 2 no doubt

Flewid6381668d ago

The "young Drake" portion was pretty top notch, story-wise. But yeah, everything outside of that I felt was inferior.

DanielEndurance1668d ago

Villains were all over the place in this… one second they wanted Drake dead, the next they needed him, then they want him dead again, then they coulda killed him, but poisoned his friend instead, then coulda shot him again, but had brunch with him, then needed him alive, then coulda mowed him down, but decided to kill him by fire and let him escape… Uncharted 2 was way better. 😅😅

slowgamer1668d ago

=D Sounds crazy. I don't remember any of that. Played it on ps3 and I remember thinking that why was this game so bashed compared to second one. I liked it.

Chocoburger1667d ago (Edited 1667d ago )

Another thing that annoyed me about UC3 events was the agent Talbot teleporting around Turkey. It just felt off to me, and made no sense.

Also, for about one third of the game, you go on a wild goose chase to rescue Sully, who wasn't even there to be rescued, and you end up back where you started again. There was simply no pay off for all the events you go through, so it fell flat in that regard as if they couldn't figure out how to make the game longer, so they decided to side-track you to do something with no pay off, hoping you wouldn't notice due to all the incredible action set pieces they made.

Overall though, even with its flaws, I still enjoy the game.

TheEnigma3131668d ago

This was actually my least favorite in the series. Didn't have that same impact that part 2 set.

Flewid6381668d ago

Uncharted 2 is the pinnacle of the series (to me).

Granted, 4 had the best story in my opinion, but 2 was the overall best game.

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Uncharted 3 Anniversary Retrospective: Shackled By Its Precursor's Legacy

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SullysCigar1669d ago

When arguably the weakest game in the series is still awesome and more fun than most games today, you know you're onto a winner!

coolbeans1669d ago

I'd extend "arguably" before awesome too. Many technically demanding scenes were jaw-dropping for the time, but it's tough to ignore the sub-par context propelling the action forward.

SullysCigar1669d ago

Tough for you, perhaps, and that's fine. I enjoyed it very much. Perhaps a little less than the others in the series, but then the bar is extremely high.

I remember being blown away by the water and sand tech in U3 for the time too. It certainly was a visual treat!

LucasRuinedChildhood1669d ago (Edited 1669d ago )

It is very good, but when I originally played Uncharted 3 it was the most disappointed I'd ever been in a video-game because Uncharted 2 was just that good. I enjoyed 3 much more when I replayed it in the Nathan Drake Collection though. I could just enjoy it for what it is and accept that it's not Uncharted 2 - it's not a roller coaster, and it doesn't balance and rotate between action, puzzles, platforming and set-pieces in the same way.

Uncharted 3's gameplay is a bit more compartmentalized and focused on one thing at a time. I'm not surprised the scrapped version of Uncharted 4 was going to have no gunplay for the first half. It's also paced much differently - it takes a long time to get to the notable set-pieces. Uncharted 2 is insane from Nepal onwards which is about an hour into the game. haha.

I did like the introduction of chase sequences, and I love first hour (bar fight, young Drake) and from the airplane sequence onwards but I just think the rest of it just sort of meanders along without as much purpose as 2.

When it comes to the script, you can feel the absence of Neil Druckmann and Josh Scherr (writer on every other console Uncharted game). Drake gets hit in the face, and the game goes on a random side plot for an hour to give you some boat set-pieces. He then washes up on a beach close to where Elena is staying to get you back to the real plot. Drake just says "How convenient" to try make you laugh off how sloppy the plot got.

In retrospect, I'm not sure if Naughty Dog were ready to work on 2 different games at once. 3 clearly had production issues that 1 and 2 didn't have, and Hennig's version of 4 didn't work out. They had to crunch so hard to get the rebooted version done on time that Bruce Straley gave up making video-games.

coolbeans1668d ago

I'll give you some props for the extra analysis. I remember Druckmann climbing his way to a writer spot in UC2, but wasn't aware of Josh Scherr. I didn't know that was the reason for Straley's departure either. That's pretty damn rough.

GhostofHorizon1669d ago

They had to make some weird choices as far as story went because the actor for Cutter had to bail which left a few holes in the story.

Uncharted is one of my favourite series and while the leap from 2 to 3 was not nearly as big as the leap from 1 to 2, I think it was an amazing experience none the less.

coolbeans1669d ago

Graham McTavish's departure wasn't easy, but I don't think that would fix many holes tbh. Because the main issue to consider is the precarious mindset Naughty Dog was operating on: an increased emphasis in set pieces that HAD to go in and worrying about the context later.

Petebloodyonion1669d ago

I really liked part 3 ( Among Thieves is still the best in my opinion) My only complaint was the interactions with the villains and how they were a missed opportunity, Linda MacMahon (Marlowe) was an interesting antagonist due to the history with Sully and Nate but it fails basically flat especially with her ending. And I couldn't care about Navaro 2.0.

What I did love and made me care was Cutter, in the short time he was in the game you could feel that the guy was a good treasure hunter for example when he pulled his own notebook with the clues he founds so the team can escape a room.
It was a small touch that add a lot to the character.

Good-Smurf1669d ago

Marlowe was played by Rosalind Ayres.

MadLad1669d ago (Edited 1669d ago )

I have mixed feelings on the series. I still own all of them on the PS3, and the collection for PS4, but I didn't truly "love" any of the games until 4.

They're good games, but they always stumble on some element.
The first is good, but the climbing mechanics weren't exactly fine tuned with the first showing. Not to mention the spongey enemies if you played on anything past normal; but you're then faced with a fairly unchallenging game experience.
The second mostly fixed the climbing, but added in a pretty clumsy stealth mechanic.
Three was just two with a new story.

Four got it right though.
I don't remember once getting annoyed by any mechanic had in the game.

I know that everyone has a soft spot for 2, and 3 is sort of the black sheep of the series; but they did, overall, get progressively better. Which doesn't always happen.

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