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Infinity Ward Recycles Buildings on MW3 Straight From Cod4

Finallevel: After a little gameplay on the new call of duty modern warfare 3 I discover that not everything in this game has been made from scratch, is this how Activision make it so easy to pump out a new game every single year?

Whilst I don’t think it’s a bad thing to do this in a game I found it quite humorous that they would make it just so obvious.

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JellyJelly5311d ago (Edited 5311d ago )

For shame, Activision.

nveenio5310d ago

It's all about the Benjamins, baby. (Or whoever is on the $60 bill.)

killcycle5310d ago

quoue today for mw3 was so long, milk milk milk

hakis865310d ago

HONESTLY, what did you expect? They've recycled maps before, this time at least it's only buildings (so far???).
Wouldn't surprise me if you have to buy a mappack with a few old levels with new textures.

guitarded775310d ago

Many games reuse resources... while I'm against the DLC milk machine that will come very soon, the reuse of a building model is not a big deal.

bviperz5310d ago

It struck me when I was watching their new game modes trailer that all the maps look familiar. They weren't kidding when they said CoD is now the Madden of online shooters.

Elimin85310d ago

They've been recycling since the first game..... Price "the character" also has been the same since the first CoD... Sadly, it will sell boatloads...

newhumanbreed5310d ago (Edited 5310d ago )

@Elimin8

I wouldn't say that Price is recycled, but rather just the original Infinity Ward's favorite character. In MW3, I'd say he is recycled and just used for selling a game since the original team is not behind it.

JhawkFootball065310d ago

Infinity Ward needs to step up. I don't want no scrubs.

Joe29115310d ago

And they didn't recycle stuff in BF3?

Heck EA churns out the same crappy sports titles every year!

Kurylo3d5310d ago

eh... no ... no i cant say that bf3 did recycle anything... sorry to put a hole in your argument lol

Trebius5310d ago

BF3 didnt recycle anything moron, they rehauled their whole engine! CoD uses the same engine every year. Do some research little boy.

Heartnet5310d ago

@trebius..

U can still bring over models etc from different Engines lol there probz made in a 3d modelling package to begin with so...

Getowned5310d ago

Battlefield has reycles builings before and we even see the same building used over and over in BC and BC2,BF3.Whats the point of this article ?

Joe29115310d ago (Edited 5310d ago )

I only own BF3, I have played it a lot and I run past certain buildings like 'huh, I saw that in BC2 or BC1', guess its just me

.. no need to call me a moron, I wasn't attacking your beloved BF3. Unlike a fanboy, I will be getting both.

Edit: I'm 6'1 so hardly a little boy, I prefere just above national average man. Oh wait, you can't reply.... 1 bubs

Joe29115310d ago

The moment where you post something which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic.

trancefreak5310d ago

Just got my copy of milk of magnesium 3 and it is explosive.

Scizz5310d ago (Edited 5310d ago )

Everyone always compares BF3 with BC2 and BC. Aren't you suppose to compare it with BF2. That was the good game. That's like comparing MW3 to Black Ops and World at War.

theaceh5310d ago

Why are people surprised? This is Guitar Hero development practices all over again.

Piegoose5310d ago

All COD's are similar. I love WAW and MW2, but all of them are still the same thing.

Raptura5310d ago

MW3 copies from itself. In the third level there's 2 primary civilians:

1) Black Guy - Red Shirt
2) White Guy - Blue/White Jacket

Anyone else notice this?

BattleAxe5310d ago

Battlefield Bad Company 1 & 2 had the same buildings throughout the entirety of both games. I'd be surprised if they didn't use some of the same buildings in BF3.

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Kurylo3d5310d ago

its called good marketing... besides... what do u care. Does it really make a different that they reused a building model here... or a dumpster model there? I understand they are trying to save money to put out another game cheaper... in what way does that actually hurt u though? If people still think its a good game then more power to em.

seinfan5310d ago

@kurylo
It hurts all gamers. Why? Because when other gaming companies see this formula of success that Activision has adopted, they too are likely to start half-assing their most successful franchises in order to maximize profit. Face it, this is a business, and companies think with their wallet in mind first and foremost.
Here are some examples:
Nintendo plays to the casual crowd with their motion controls and dominate in sales. MS and SONY follow suit.
DLC has exploded in recent years. We're now buying incomplete games at launch and have to pay for the extra content that should have been on the disc in the first place (heck, some of the content is already on the disc, but it's LOCKED and you have to PAY TO UNLOCK IT).
The gaming industry is headed to the shitter.

snipes1015310d ago

Wow people are just looking for things to hate. This is just...pathetic.

Not for or against the game but wow people you all act like a bunch of children. It's. One. Building.

Buy y'know what, if you want to be a total idiot and go out, buy this game that you hate, and look for more buildings that match up go for it!

And to people that think that everyone is going to start being lazy because of the way Activision has handled COD; GET REAL. Like any level headed developer would want to be as hated as Activision and it's studios are right now.

Fel085310d ago

@Kurylo3d

No, it's called being greedy and ripping off their costumes. Why charge 60 dollars for a recycled game, with a couple of new extra features?

nanometric5310d ago

@Seifan
Coudn't agree more, bubs.

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Tanir5310d ago

and people will still buy this 60$ overhyped dlc

qwertyz5310d ago (Edited 5310d ago )

Activision is the epitome of greed...with all the money they made from black ops they couldn't even use a tiny fraction to create new in game assets ?REALLY...PHUCK EM

chazjamie5310d ago

so 8 million people are going to buy a map pack for about $45. sweet, so much fun.

claterz5310d ago

What the HELL have they been doing for the past 2 years?!?!

It amazes me seeing what a studio like ND can do in 2 years, and yet IW, who probably have a ridiculous amount of money to spend on development can only do this in the same amount of time.

To be honest I don't even care if MW3 sells 20million+ but I just hate it that there are so many great games that don't get anywhere near the amount of sales that they deserve.It just doesn't seem fair to those developers that actually put some effort into their work :(

ASTAROTH5310d ago

They dont get the sales and they dont get the RESPECT from the media. Read the MW3 reviews, "same old game but its for the fans" and they rate it 10/10. Meanwhile other games that are different and improve upon the FPS formula are treated disrespectfully by the media just saying: " they try to copy COD but in the ends it fells short" . . . Jesus gaming is really in a bad place thanks to the gaming media.

xX-StolenSoul-Xx5310d ago

I know how you feel. But really the way i see Cod players. A lot of them are people who only play Cod and no other game and really just play it to be part of the crowd with their friends since it's whats "IN" nowadays.

-Alpha5310d ago

I remember that back from my childhood lol

mike_d_5310d ago

Nothing in CoD is made from scratch anymore(or was at all).Same reload animations,same death animations,same buildings same everything.

AyeGee5310d ago

Good thing i bought it for $37 bucks.. it's not worth the $60!

da_2pacalypse5310d ago

you sold your soul for a 23 dollar saving.

AyeGee5310d ago

Oh please, i bought BF3 too, if that makes you feel any better.

WittyAdrian5310d ago

So? Soul selling is soul selling dude, whether you do something good or not.

thesummerofgeorge5310d ago

One time, I sold my soul for a donut. Not worth it.

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Keyop5310d ago

Next thing you'll be telling me is that they re-used the engine code too....

showtimefolks5310d ago

It's amazing people have issues with this yet millions of them have been buying a tweaked version of COD 4 and MW1 every year. Activision is the king of recycled material in their games. You want them to change stop buy COD and now some will reply to say I am hating on cod. You watch or read all the reviews even though the game has been getting 9s, each and every one has complained about MW3 in some aspects

Time for a new engine
Time to evolve gameplay wise
And now single player with action pack moments isn't good enough

activation can do so much more with COD but why should they when they can sell millions of copies of the same game, than on top of that charge extreme prices for their map packs

milohighclub5310d ago

Lol wouldn't be surprised if people got home after buying mw3 to find the mw2 disk in their case...

cyguration5310d ago

That comment deserves bubbles. So, bubs to you, dude.

damnyouretall5310d ago

next cod game i buy will have to be next gen. that will have me interested again, maybe. you know what the biggest joke is in the history of gaming? the sequel to black ops next year. i mean come the fuck on man seriously. everyone knows its commin, and its a joke

stu8885310d ago

in fairness, Dice has that same bridge in most maps set in a built up area. The one where you go up there with the LMG on the second level of the campaign.

stu8885310d ago

but if all overpasses/bridges look like that in iran/iraq fair enough.

Pl4sm45310d ago

bf3 is 10% recycled ... mw3 , 96.9% recycled ... there is a difference bro

iNcRiMiNaTi5310d ago

Yeah but it's reused content from the same game. Not content from 3-4 games ago

Spitfire_Riggz5310d ago

It seems the Modern Warfare Defense team is nowhere to be seen..

*tumbleweed rolls*

GarandShooter5310d ago

No they're not, there probably online playing instead of complaining here, completely unaware, just having fun, those dumb...mother...fudgers...

Oh, wait...

Spitfire_Riggz5310d ago

@garand

Really? I was just arguing with some cod kids on another article.. weird that they arent on this one..

tawak5310d ago

he found it, in just day 1...
"call of duty 4 modern warfare version 1.75 - the expansion pack MW3"
(requires COD4 main game to play)

Kaneda5310d ago

hahaha.. the real shame is the old building is actually looking better then the new one.. :)

Taker_1295310d ago

I thought i was the only one who noticed, lol.

HINDERIZATION5310d ago

MW3 feels a LOT like MW1...

gamingdroid5310d ago (Edited 5310d ago )

I think next generation we are going to have $80 games, as consumers are demanding more and more. New engine with every game, new assets for everything, better graphics....

Personally, I see no problem with re-using assets. People do it all the time.

@Spitfire_Riggz below:

Who cares if it is "breaking records"? It's a matter of that gamers are increasingly being demanding, which is good and bad.

Good, we *might* get better games.

Bad: The cost of developing these games are very costly and one of the reasons why we get fewer "risky" and "different" games. Another factor is, resources are taken away to create new assets that arguably has somewhat small experience impact compared to bug fixes, production value and so on especially if it is barely noticeable.

Spitfire_Riggz5310d ago

Well maybe if it was from the last game but from COD 4???

Also why should they demand more for their games when they are breaking records for how much money they are making. I see a problem when you are making an incredible amount of money and still using old crap.

Hicken5310d ago

Dude, seriously?

We aren't "demanding" more and more. Improvements are to be expected. Can you name the last series where five games over five years were so similar it was painful?

What comes to my mind: Tony Hawk and Guitar Hero. Both Activision titles. And what happened to them? People got tired of the same things in every game and both series fell off. Why should CoD be different?

I should also mention this has only happened this generation. Prior to this, only sports games were yearly, and since there was no way to upgrade, it was a little more acceptable.

As for your argument about "resources are taken away," that's a given. My question to YOU is: how could you even tell? So many of us are looking at this game and seeing the last few games so easily. Where do YOU see that this game would have suffered to do something new?

Don't talk about cost. Not with Activision. NEVER bring up the cost of development when they're involved. They spend more on marketing than they do developing these games, and with all they money they make off their 20+ million copies AND overpriced DLC, they have more than enough money to not worry about cost. You even bringing that up in reference to a product by Activision is silly.

gamingdroid5310d ago (Edited 5310d ago )

***We aren't "demanding" more and more. Improvements are to be expected. Can you name the last series where five games over five years were so similar it was painful?***

That is just what the haters blabbering, but obviously gamers aren't sick of it as they are buying it in droves to the point where they are lining up outside stores to get their hands on it asap!

***As for your argument about "resources are taken away," that's a given. My question to YOU is: how could you even tell? So many of us are looking at this game and seeing the last few games so easily. Where do YOU see that this game would have suffered to do something new? ***

If it is the same darn thing, why is it that nobody has been able to top it? Make something better? ... and no, I don't consider your personal opinion of something better?

I'm talking about something measurable, and that my friend is sales. The people in general vouch CoD as it is (recycled, repeated or whatever), is more worthy of spending money on than anything else out there.

There is nothing wrong with re-use of assets as everybody does it. Question is, does it fit in? Would you notice it if nobody pointed it out to you? The vast majority most likely doesn't even care... because what they care about it how good the game is overall, NOT how it looks.

... but hey, feel free to complain about that recycled building while the rest of us goes on to enjoy a game without an online pass.

***Don't talk about cost. Not with Activision. NEVER bring up the cost of development when they're involved. They spend more on marketing than they do developing these games, and with all they money they make off their 20+ million copies AND overpriced DLC, they have more than enough money to not worry about cost. You even bringing that up in reference to a product by Activision is silly.***

It was a general comment that game prices are going to rise as a result of gamers complaining about something as insignificant as a recycled building.

Maybe a little reading comprehension would help?

Hicken5310d ago

And everybody in Germany was lining up to be part of Hitler's dream, even those who knew it was wrong. Following the crowd, protecting your own ass; these things exist, and in a multiplayer-heavy, social area like gaming has become, getting a game "because my friends have/are getting it" is a common excuse.

Nobody's been able to top it? I assume you mean sales. In that case, see above. If you mean in any other capacity, there are any number of games that have surpassed it in various ways. From superior storylines to better gameplay to top-notch graphics, MANY games have CoD beat in these respects.

Yes, of course you would reference sales, because you can't measure quality, right? And the fact that millions don't actually care about the quality so long as they can play with their friends doesn't change the fact that they still bought the game. How convenient for you that sales are the only thing you care about.

Uncharted (take your pick) is superior to Call of Duty (take your pick), and yet it will never reach the same sales. Gears of War is superior, but will never reach the same sales. Killzone, a direct competitor, is superior, but will never reach the same sales. Even Halo will never reach the same sales. Are you saying that Call of Duty is better than all of these franchises?

Re-using assets is not a problem to me, and I didn't even bring that up in my response to you, so I'll be ignoring that point entirely.

Your last paragraph, focusing on the "Bad" of gamers being demanding, does not apply to Activision BECAUSE of how much they make. A smaller developer with less resources could get a pass for this, but there is simply no excuse for Activision doing this, because they are not at a loss for money.

Gamers don't complain about EVERY game that does such things. A new kid on the block who has to recycle some things for a sequel when the original only sold 800,000 copies doesn't catch flak. A long-established publisher with long-established developers SHOULD and DOES catch flak when their last ten titles have sold AT LEAST 10 million, and the last two have sold more than 20 million apiece. When you've got the money to spend on Eminem and Kobe Bryant, you've got the money to spend on new assets.

As it stands, game prices will not rise because of this, nor should they... on second thought, they already have, with the introduction of DLC in this generation, which introduces more content (required to have a "complete" game) at a price.

That aside, gamers have every right to complain about unnecessary shortcuts being taken when they're spending money on these games. It's only a shame that more people are willing to roll over and accept these practices from the largest of developers when, of all things, they should never have to do so.

gamingdroid5310d ago

***Yes, of course you would reference sales, because you can't measure quality, right? And the fact that millions don't actually care about the quality so long as they can play with their friends doesn't change the fact that they still bought the game. How convenient for you that sales are the only thing you care about.***

That's the thing, to many playing with their friends and being able to do that is part of the experience. It is quality!

from the dictionary:

quality: an inherent feature

http://www.merriam-webster....

***Uncharted (take your pick) is superior to Call of Duty (take your pick), and yet it will never reach the same sales. Gears of War is superior, but will never reach the same sales. Killzone, a direct competitor, is superior, but will never reach the same sales. Even Halo will never reach the same sales. Are you saying that Call of Duty is better than all of these franchises?***

That is your opinion of what is better, but the general consensus is that it is "better" in where it matters to the consumer. If that happens to be where their friends is playing and that is an important factor, then that is a valid reason.

I can think of plenty of reason why MW3 is in many ways better than other games including some of those you listed. After years of the "CoD stagnation", many games still don't do things as good as CoD.

***Your last paragraph, focusing on the "Bad" of gamers being demanding, does not apply to Activision BECAUSE of how much they make.***

So you are holding Activision to a higher standard simply because they are bigger and make more profits. I tend more to lean towards what I get, not necessary who makes them.

If it is a good product and I like it, I buy it. If it is something I don't like, I don't buy it!

Has little to do with how much money they make. Their success isn't a reason for discrimination, something our society do all the time, "All the rich people get richer"... bla bla bla. Back on topic...

***Re-using assets is not a problem to me, and I didn't even bring that up in my response to you, so I'll be ignoring that point entirely.***

Well then, that is what I was referring to in this article that we b!tch about insignificant things, yet more important things like Online Passes need far more scrutiny. The assets here is barely re-used, and the package MW3 deliver is more than satisfying to me.

***As it stands, game prices will not rise because of this, nor should they... on second thought, they already have, with the introduction of DLC in this generation, which introduces more content (required to have a "complete" game) at a price.***

Technically speaking, the DLC consistently has never been of importance. Most of them smell like afterthough extras that is to please the fans. I don't mind paying for DLC, since it is optional and everything. I never once felt the DLC was something that SHOULD have been part of the package unlike Online Passes.

That said, yes, it does increase cost for competitive reasons. The cost of developing video games has gone up exponentially. Recouping the investment takes time and creating a new engine every single time and spending 3-5 years developing a game isn't really financially viable. There is a reason why we get lots of sequels and re-use of engines as shown early in this generation when publishers/developers were having quarters upon quarters of major losses.

Anyhow... I'm gonna go and enjoy some MW3!!! :D

wolokowoh5310d ago

No offense but at most we are going to have $70 and that's just because they can. Game development will not increase in cost by all that much. Compare the PS3 to the PS2 or the 360 to the original Xbox. The PS3 is over 100 times more powerful than the PS2. The 360 is over 70 times more powerful than the original Xbox. Even the fastest most expensive computers you can make right now do not provide nearly that large of a gap. Even if Sony made another $600 console that they lost $200 a console sold on right now, the most power they'd get out of it is a roughly 4 times and that's assuming they make it right and get some good deals on the parts. This next generation may very well be the smallest gap proportionally since the NES and the SNES. I don't expect prices to go up that much because there would need to be a new storage format, digital versions are slowly implemented, and let's not forget I can still buy PC such as Battlefield 3 for $50/$60 for the bluray new on release day. The PC version Battlefield 3 is truly a game stuck directly between this generation of consoles and the next. The Wii U may be able to handle it depending on the final hardware and if DICE takes the time to optimize it. I know. I just mentioned Battlefield 3 on a COD article, but it's just the most recent example. I could have said The Witcher 2 or Crysis 2 but those came out at the beginning of the year and the Witcher 2 would come out on 360 until next year so a comparison can't be drawn.

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bozebo5310d ago

Well, CoD4 is a good game for them to copy from tbh :P

BF3 copied some buildings from BC2 but I'm fine with it.

WitWolfy5310d ago

I havent seen one building that has been copied and paste directly from BC2 to BF3.

But thats just me

Mr_cheese5310d ago

This is seriously bad, I know they do things like this but when i'm paying £42 for a game along with millions of others, i'm expecting a completely new game. Not reusing old models etc, I feel really cheated and to make things worse its noticeable in game.

aPerson5310d ago

...then why did you buy it in the first place?

Seriously, I have no sympathy for people that buy CoD games year after year only to *gasp* feel ripped off.

CoD games have been declining in quality for a few years now. What were you expecting???

ambientFLIER5310d ago

You're an idiot. Most sequels out there reuse old assets in one way or another. If you feel cheated because one building is the same, then you're the biggest crybaby in the world.

Mr_cheese5310d ago

firstly @aPerson, I brought the game expecting a difference only to find out there isn't much of one, campaign wise.

@ambientFLIER, Can I not have an opinion instead of you insulting me because i've said something negative about your precious game? Behave yourself lad. Sequels may reuse etc, but not that blatantly and they really shouldn't either. For the money we are putting into the game industry bar the engine the games should be build from the ground up each time so you get your value and a truly worked on experience. So you can sit back and enjoy your rehashes year after year and never speak up about them, thats your gaming experience ruined by yourself.

bennyace5310d ago

If it's such a big deal for you then don't buy it. The milions that do won't really care I think! I know I'll get disagrees fot that but, every one here always say it's gameplay over graphics... only when it suits their needs. Didn't GT5 had like 800 of 1000 cars recycled but no one seemed to care. I know it's not the same category of game... But c'mon, for recycled buildings in a war game it's like the end of the world... Really?

ainsz5310d ago

Actuall there were quite a lot of complaints about the recycled cars, I myself thought it was pretty half assed. But, besides that, GT 5 is a quality game which is something that cod lacks.

bennyace5310d ago

I here you... And I agree... 'Cause I sold mine because of that... But "besides" cars what is there in GT5?

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White-Sharingan5310d ago (Edited 5310d ago )

Silly activision

LackTrue4K5310d ago

jajaj....when he started to look up, i found out fast thats was the online map from MW...to me thats the best one out the all there games.....

farhad2k85310d ago

Love the hate this game is receiving. When you've got haters, you know you're doing something right.

Like Kanye said, 'If they hate, then let em' hate, and watch the money pile up'.
Which is exactly what Robert Bowling & Co. are doing.

Well done to IW for releasing the most successful game ever.. AGAIN. :D

If BF3 is so good, why is it that EVERY SINGLE TIME I come on N4G, I just see BF3 fanboys everywhere? Why are you not playing your beloved game? Honestly?

Meh, I could care less, I'm going back to a 6 hour sesh' of MW3. Hi hater, Bye hater.

50Terabytespersec5310d ago (Edited 5310d ago )

this is getting ridiculous !!! Get a life you morons!!
What do expect from a multi-platform game?? huh ?? What???
No one said the engine was revamped no one!!!
THis is a game for loser to get off on cause they have no life. Especially multiplayer..
get a multi-player session with real women instead of guys and a controller losers!!!!
Give me a good story mode and some Hollywood explosions...Then give me my girlfriend .. thats how games are played LOSERS!!!
now get out and ride a bike... and stop technology from taking your jobs by getting of the techdik / crckpipe..

poopface15310d ago (Edited 5310d ago )

ahhaha WHERE IS THE COMPLAINING ARTICLE ABOUT NAUGHTY DOG RECYCLING ENTIRE MAPS FOR UNCHARTED 3.

oR HOW ABOUT BUNGIE, GURILLA, AND EPIC SELLING OLD MAPS FROM PREVIOUS GAMES AS DLC. thats fine, but god forbid we see a BUILDING AGAIN.

that is funny that a re-used building made these fanboy whine and circle jerk each other, while they eat up recycled ENTIRE maps in their favorite games.

TyrannoTaurus5310d ago

It was ONE building. Maybe it was there as an homage to COD4... or, even more likely, it was in the game because it was already on the disk to be used for a remake of the COD4 multiplayer map from which it came. Either way, it's not that big of a deal. The game is extremely fun for a lot of people and it will be extremely successful. Make peace with that people. It's a fact.

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DonaldBeck5311d ago (Edited 5311d ago )

shakes head

makes this face
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Gazondaily5311d ago

Well spotted. That does take the mick a bit. There are a lot of accusations of this being recycled on the same engine, but if you're going as far as recycling the same assets for maps, then I do think that's taking the p*ss, especially for a Blockbuster title that has supposedly had millions invested in it.

MasterCornholio5310d ago

Minimize developments costs maximize profits. That's how business is done with COD.

XperiaRay

Tachyon_Nova5310d ago

Surely hats how business is done full stop? I get your point though.

boommuffin5310d ago

i hope activision isnt going to have to big of a say on Bungies new IP, its wierd though cuz Bungies known for inovation & Acti is known for reusing old shit but now they have a buisness relationship

poopface15310d ago (Edited 5310d ago )

"but if you're going as far as recycling the same assets for maps, then I do think that's taking the p*ss, especially for a Blockbuster title that has supposedly had millions invested in it. "

AHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHHAAHA HHAHAHAHA Im sure that how you really feel.

Tell me. What do you think of uncharted 3?? That game re-used a hell of alot more than a building. It reused entire maps. Halo, Killzone, and Gears of war have even released maps from previous games as DLC.

I guess its ok when other games re-use and even charge you for ENTIRE OLD MAPS. But god forbid a game you dont like reuses a single building in the NEW maps that come with the game. Then we are going to hear about what a travesty it is.

news4geeks5311d ago

good on them, I use similar techniques in my uni work.

Coffin875310d ago (Edited 5310d ago )

Oh come on, I don't really see the problem here.
Vice City, San Andreas & Bully had the same (100%, model & texture) snack & drink machines, you know where you could spend 1$ and get some health replenished (in SA). I noticed that at some point. Nobody made a video about that, I sure as hell didn't either.

I mean really, come on guys. I 'dislike' what has become of the gaming industry probably as much as anyone else here, but this is THEIR work.
It is THEIR work of art, theyy created it, they own it. I don't exactly know how it's called in english. They have the copyright for it, they probably spent a few hours designing that building and the textures. I don't see any reason why they shouldn't use it again.

The trend of bashing CoD has become way too hipster.

LolololRumz5310d ago (Edited 5310d ago )

@Coffin87

Problem with that is they're aren't THAT many different styles of drinks machines they pretty much come in one format. With buildings though the possibilities are endless.

Recycling a drinks machine is minor as it's a minor asset, a usable building from 2007 isn't acceptable.

dooge5310d ago (Edited 5310d ago )

Milk milk noob grenade around the corner COD is made.

Pl4sm45310d ago

love milk with chocolate syrup ..... yumi :D ... but this game makes a weird stench in my mouth

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Modern Warfare 3 flooded with cheaters after arrival on Xbox Game Pass

Players are using hacks to gain an advantage in the game, such as aimbots and wall hacks. The first gives a player superhuman aiming abilities, while a wall hack lets you see through walls to gauge where other players are.

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Jin_Sakai662d ago (Edited 662d ago )

“These hacks are typically used by PC players, but those playing on PC via Xbox Game Pass are identified as Xbox players in multiplayer lobbies.”

This is pretty dumb to say the least.

Cacabunga661d ago

All about them headshots for Xbox

badz149661d ago

Gotta pump those numbers up

blackblades661d ago

That's a WTF, they suppose to be labeled as pc users even if its on PC game pass. They mess that up big time.

XiNatsuDragnel661d ago

Oh bad this will be entertaining to watch

ZycoFox661d ago

If AI keeps getting better (and it will) it's just a matter of time before there's more sophisticated cheats even for consoles, and they wouldn't even need to be running on it, I have little doubt about that.

lelo2play661d ago

Don't Gamepass online games have anti-cheat systems?
If not, that's pretty dumb. Microsoft need to fix that asap.

Rynxie661d ago (Edited 661d ago )

They won't ever fix this problem, unless they (developers, publishers, Sony and MS) go after the cheat providers directly. You no longer need to hack consoles to use hacks. During the ps360 days, they were going after cheat devices, but it was a cat and mouse game. These cheating methods were around during those days, it's nothing new, but they kept it under control. Since the PS4/Xbox one generation, they stopped going after these cheating devices and it became widespread. Which I find odd, since they started charging for online play (PS4).

StormSnooper661d ago (Edited 661d ago )

Possibly, this is because the companies were going after cheats because the same cheats were being used to pirate the games, whereas today, the companies use online verification to prevent piracy, thus eliminating the need to go after people who cheat only to gain an advantage in the game. As long as the cheater remains below the radar, and does not completely break the game, the companies look the other way as their wallets are not threatened by it. (that is my completely Uneducated opinion on the matter)

pwnmaster3000661d ago

I mean, COD games was always filled with hackers, nothing new. I can’t blame MS on this. Activision had years to try and fix this. Might take MS some time to make some change.

Rude-ro661d ago

It all depends…
Microsoft’s guidance on how to handle gamepass on pc and their love to force crossplay with pc seems like a them issue.
And they own activision, so it is still a them issue.

StormSnooper661d ago

lol well that sucks.

Is there a reason this happened upon arrival on xbox?

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Activision Reportedly Sold An AI-Generated Skin In Call Of Duty

The Yokai's Wrath bundle was released despite previous guarantees by Activision that A.I. would not be used for final assets, per the report. Instead, Activision assured developers it was simply for internal concepts. That, of course, was not followed through. For what it's worth, per the PlayStation Store, 2,400 COD Points cost $19.99, meaning players potentially spent real-life money on a skin that was not created by an actual human.

As far as A.I. use goes across Activision, a source told Wired that 2D artists are utilizing A.I. to aid their work. That is a result of mass layoffs, in which many 2D artists were impacted. “A lot of 2D artists were laid off,” the source named Noah said. “Remaining concept artists were then forced to use A.I. to aid in their work.” Mandatory A.I. trainings have been implemented, according to Noah.

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boing1664d ago (Edited 664d ago )

I mean, is this even surprising?

just_looken664d ago

It is not ubisoft has a ai tool for crating stories/script's they even talked about npc's having there own ai speech like we see with those skyrim mods.

Ai is the future sadly which sucks in so many way's.

S2Killinit664d ago (Edited 664d ago )

Activision. And MS. They will ruin console gaming forever.

Oh and where the FRIGGIN outrage people? When Sony makes a remaster of a masterpiece single player story driven game, they get roasted. But this, this, goes unnoticed? Then don’t complain that you aren’t getting enough single player story games.

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just_looken664d ago

Ea and ubisoft also use ai

ea using ai for development threatening mass layoffs.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/...

ubisoft ai for npc speech
https://www.theverge.com/20...

Almost every big boy in the industry is using ai in some sort of way now

Oh and sony? well they are making spyware ai were they can see how long it took you to do X and adjust difficultly.
https://gamerant.com/sony-a...

Then you got AI agents
https://www.ign.com/article...

https://www.creativebloq.co...

blackblades664d ago

Sony ai is a patent doesnt mean it came to light

just_looken664d ago

@blackblades

Wow this site every time you say the S word or P word they dive in defend there god its beyond nuts

I said "they are making"

You know a term that means its not out yet ffs

S2Killinit664d ago (Edited 664d ago )

How is that a response to what I said? Are they also selling AI generated skins?

Cacabunga663d ago (Edited 663d ago )

Always bringing useless links totally off topic.. just to try to show you are superior in knowledge to everyone else

…simply laughable

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just_looken664d ago

@S2Killinit

You never mentioned skins in your comment just stated its all microsoft's fault like so many others.

When like i showed they are late to the ball game as every other company is using or plans to use ai in various field.

If you combine everything then its getting closer to hitting a button and poof out comes a game no soul no passion nothing.

Right now its art/3d models/skins/writing/voice work some and coding can all be done via ai.

S2Killinit664d ago (Edited 664d ago )

That was the whole point of my comment, I wrote it in response to the article. Instead of focusing on making exciting games and developing talented developers, they are busy making AI generated skins that people are buying for huge sums of money. Then, some people turn around and shit on Sony when it tries to capitalize on single player classics by making remasters, and the same people then complain that they want more single player games. MS cannabalized the industry because they never thought making games was essential to their business. So, instead of nurturing theor own studios, they let them die, then went and shrunk the industry, hurting interests of every gamer in the world. Anytime there is a bad trend in the industry, MS is at the helm, leading the way. That is what I’m saying.

smashman98664d ago

I'm sorry but do you honestly believe Sony will sit out of A.I. Every executive at every one of these publishers is wetting themselves in delight at the prospect of A.I. You best believe that once we start seeing it spread throughout the industry Sony won't be too far behind. The only people we'll have to blame are the consumers themselves.

S2Killinit663d ago (Edited 663d ago )

No, I don't believe that Sony will not do the same. But, as I mentioned, MS is always the first to embrace such things and create the worst trends. Once they establish that this is the best way to make money, everyone else will follow. (Have to follow if they want to stay competitive)

thesoftware730663d ago

S2, and blackblades:

All from the Horse's mouth below.

"Artificial intelligence (AI) in video games is crucial for Gen Z and Gen Alpha, who seek “personalization across everything,” says PlayStation executive Asad Qizilbash."

“Advancements in AI will create more personalized experiences and meaningful stories for consumers.”

"He emphasized that AI could enable non-player characters to interact with players based on their actions, enhancing the personal connection within the game."

Yeah, Just MS and Activision...smh

S2Killinit663d ago

I’ve already explained myself twice. Quit your false equivalence, same thing the xbox fateful pulled before and after the ABK acquisitions. Which by the way, blew up in your faces real good. Now, doing the same thing when someone brings up MS’s nefarious behavior, defend them to the end, and watch them scorch gaming as they have been. At least rest of us can take consolation in that the smoke will go in your eyes before anyone else’s.

thesoftware730663d ago (Edited 663d ago )

"Quit your false equivalence, same thing the xbox fateful pulled before and after the ABK acquisitions. Which by the way, blew up in your faces real good."

I'm not sure what you are talking about, you seem to have a issue communicating, because we are on a post about using AI to create video games content, and you put that solely at the feet of MS and Activision, when it's being, and will be used industry wide, right from Sony mouth, I would say it's relevant...then you went on to give Sony a spit shine slob down about a masterpiece TLoU when this had absolutely nothing to do with Sony or TLoU, then you attempted to clean up your rambling spit shine with no real backing for a ridiculous comment.

Obviously you meant to post that nonsensical over exaggerated comment. I also don't know what blew up in people faces, I am perfectly fine with the game industry, I don't have time to be internet outraged about nothingness.

Really read your comment and listen to what you said.

"Activision. And MS. They will ruin console gaming forever."

Bro, for real? Really? Seriously? It's that serious? So there is nothing Sony and Nintendo can do against MS and Activision? MS is 3rd place with you even talking about?

If we stay relevant on MTX, then you still sound ridiculous because again, you lay it all at MS and Activision's feet when almost all companies have used some form of MTX, including yup... Sony.

S2Killinit659d ago

I read this comment, it boiled down to “seeiously?”.

My answer: yes seriously. Since you didn’t say anything else, what else can I tell you? Yes MS is seriously ruining gaming. They have been for some time, and working their way to where we are today, and aren’t even done yet. MS are the worst thing to happen to console gaming.

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swedishMeatwad664d ago

"The Yokai's Wrath bundle was released despite previous guarantees by Activision that A.I. would not be used for final assets, per the report."

We're talking concept art? Because as of right now there's no way to generate a final 3D model with final textures. So the final assets don't use AI. That's not to say that it sucks for 2D artist that it's easier to generate visual ideas and build from them leading to less 2D artists needed (really sucks), but are they say the final concept art was completely AI generated and then 3D artists built from that? And yes, I'll pile on that Activision as a publisher and their developers I have experience with suck and they'll do whatever, ethics be damned.

OldDuffer663d ago

Thats actually a very useful and informative piece, thank you.

just_looken663d ago

@OldDuffer

Your welcome though it seems it went over many users heads.

PapaBop664d ago

Wow I can just imagine the likes of Activision, EA and Ubi etc having an army of AIs creating overpriced crap and the fanboys just lapping it up. I hope the AIs have a good union.

montebristo664d ago

I understand why people think it’s good idea to Unionize to fight back against such things but it’s not. It’s a bad idea. It’s activisions wet dream to have these pumped out weekly by some AI. Protect your neck!

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