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Microsoft Continues Banning Without Offering Proof

The headaches continue for users of Xbox LIVE as the service is continuing to ban users across the network. The bans have been so widespread that it only takes a moment on Google or Twitter to see that a good portion of XBL users have been effected by the “ban hammer”.

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millivanilli5352d ago

They know people that only have their accounts banned will start a new one and rebuy the game's they've invested time in. It's a shame, but seems like no one is stopping them.

GunShotEddy5352d ago

Reminds me of the RROD when it first hit. It was one of those things we blamed gamers for till it impacted us. I swore up an down people were not venting their consoles and so on. One day, BAM. RROD got me and I realized it was true. Same thing will happen with these bans maybe.

lorianguy5352d ago

I definitely agree with both of you. It's ridiculous that they're getting away with this.

REDHULKSMASH5352d ago

Banning?! No!!! Before mw3?!?! You lie!!!

Iroquois_Pliskin5352d ago

lol I bet a good portion of the gamers banned, were hacking in MW2

palaeomerus5352d ago

And what exactly is THAT supposed to be worth? You have no idea either way.

-Mika-5352d ago

I agree. They need to be more specific.

Trebius5352d ago (Edited 5352d ago )

I dont knwo why anyone is surprised with this move by Microsoft. Everytime theyre getting ready to release a high profile game (like CoD) or soon as they release the game, they start banning consoles to inflate their sales. They know people have been waiting 2 years for this Gears title since theres no other hardcore exclusives to play ... so they know everyone will be blinded by their anxiousness to play and try to purchase a new consoole right away.

Wouldnt be surprised if this is something they do routinely, a quota of huge number of bans in order to ensure those extra sales.

JellyJelly5352d ago

If they ban they need to specify why. End of.

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supremacy5352d ago (Edited 5352d ago )

Well its their(Microsoft)system, and honestly they can do whatever they want with it.

-Alpha5352d ago (Edited 5352d ago )

No, they can't. Not if you pay for it at least. They can't screw with you without proper excuse, nobody can.

I'm sure a majority of these bans have a legitimate excuse, I've seen tons of people making up stories to get themselves unbanned when in fact they indeed did something wrong.

I'm not sure what this new wave is about and if this particular user did do something wrong or not, but I've been hearing about this latest issue on NeoGaf too, so something is up:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

supremacy5352d ago

idk i am just saying, they own and control live not the people. Though technically you are right, these people pay for the service so you do have a point.

lorianguy5352d ago

If someone has paid a hefty sum or invested a huge amount of time into something it can't just be taken away from them without reason. It's like taking candy from a baby (In the literal (stealing without reason) and metaphorical (whos stopping them) sense.

YodaCracker5352d ago

Obviously, no one is being banned without reason.

lorianguy5352d ago

@yodecracker that's what they say, but why the sudden rise in bans now? A new game hasn't even come out recently :S

Ragnaarock5352d ago

@YodaCracker
Did you even read the article? Gameplaytoday's XBL account solely used for reviews was banned. Explain that one to me

KittyEmperor5352d ago

Generally I wouldn't really have any problems if they were going around and banning people for legit reasons. But a friend of mine was banned and he knows nothing about hacking.

OC_MurphysLaw5352d ago

I am not going to claim to know anything about your "friends" situation but I will say this "hacking" is not the only way your account can get banned.

kingdoms5352d ago (Edited 5352d ago )

Shouldn't be crying about proof you should only be crying if you were falsely banned lol

You can catch more people without giving away anything by keeping them in the dark. Lay the hammer down if people are falsely banned though.

It's ironic this news be on this site were it's famous for mods banning and blocking members based on personal beefs.

LOL@blow

A banned console from a online service is hardly comparable to a network being hacked with thousands of people's credit card and personal info stolen.

BLow5352d ago

I'm talkin about the outage right now not the one that happened. LOL back at you. I'm in the present not the past...I swear people take shit too personal on this site..I'm done.

DigitalRaptor5352d ago

Who's credit card information was stolen again?

Oh wait...

BLow5352d ago

I wonder how hot this story will get. First the PSN outage and now this. This is going to get ugly... 0_o

Fishy Fingers5352d ago

Hardly the same. this effects a select few, deemed to have broken T&C through whatever means, while the other was a global outage.

MS are routinely on the ban hammer.

MOTY5352d ago

Exactly Fishy.

MS have been banning since the days of knowledge of a firmware hack. However, their first attempt of banning resulted in many consoles that were wrongfully bricked, thus they reversed the ban and unbricked everyone's 360's until they had a better way of determining who was using modded 360's.

Since then, MS have been pretty accurate in determining who have modded consoles. It also says in MS's T&C that they don't need to explain why you were banned or had their consoles bricked. Those that have been banned know damn well why they have been.

Many call in to MS's customer service acting "stupid" like they didn't do anything wrong and yet were banned. However they know very well why they were. Customer service are not given any info from MS as to the nature of the ban, therefore the console owner can't get the info from customer service.

These bannings come from the understanding of the console owner that they rightfully are doing something wrong while the PSN outage affected many innocent bystanders that have not done anything wrong.

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SmashBrawler1015352d ago

Either way, I agree with Drekken's comment. Even if PSN was down for a full day or so, people shouldn't be complaining and learn how to get outside. Heck, I admit: I used to stay inside 24/7 for a few months when I was severely depressed. But after treatment and two med changes, I've been a lot more active. You all should try it some time. Oh and I've been out of Xbox Live membership for a few months and nobody sees me complaining.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio17d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing17d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9217d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit17d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing17d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9217d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay19d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn220d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn219d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown19d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay19d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay19d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac19d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger20d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300020d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde19d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde19d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7521d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_18d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.