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Nathan Drake is the bad guy

We know him as the charming adventurer, the one-man quip machine, the good guy. But Nathan Drake has the blood of thousands on his hands, and his face, and splattered across his trousers.

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Wizziokid5370d ago

hmm Id say he's more of an anti-hero like The Punisher, if you do wrong he will kill you ;)

Motorola5370d ago

I disagree with The Punisher comparison.

SilentNegotiator5370d ago

Yeah, it's a pretty poor comparison.

"Bad guys" can still be protagonists. If I were more of an intellectual, I might post a list of classic literature that has done so.

Iroquois_Pliskin5370d ago

like Lazarevich said In U2: "how many of my man have you killed, Drake? Just today? It seems we are no different after all."

thugbob5370d ago (Edited 5370d ago )

I don't understand why this is being brought up as if Naughty Dog brainwashed us into thinking Drake is a hero.

The "Is Drake a Hero?" question is even brought up in the game itself...

After you defeat Lazarevic he says:

"You think I am a monster, but you're no different from me Drake. How many men have you killed? How many... just today? That's it boy... no compassion, no mercy."

Sooo yeah. Whether you think Drake is a bad guy or not is up to you. Making an article to point out the obvious is pointless.

MaxXAttaxX5370d ago (Edited 5370d ago )

Great point bringing up the Lazarevic quote.
The game(and possible Nate) acknowledges that he has killed a lot of people. Though he has done so in self-defense IMO.
Also, he's a thief(as seen in the first part of Uncharted 2) unlike Lara Croft or Indiana Jones. Just one of the elements that makes him different.

Don't see the point of this article for pointing out the obvious.
I bet they wouldn't think the same thing if this was a military game even though Nate's actions wouldn't be much different.

ainsz5369d ago

You know who the real bad guy is here...?

Crash Bandicoot.

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LOGICWINS5370d ago (Edited 5370d ago )

I don't think Nathan Drake is "bad" perse. He's just human. Of course, hes going to initially put his self interest first before stopping Lazaravic.

Also, the reason Drake has killed so many people is because he HAD to in order to survive. In the heist mission in the beginning of UC2, he used a tranq gun because he didn't have to kill anyone.

Worst case scenario, he would have just been turned over to the authorities for attempting to steal.

@Shanks- Glad to see my comments are getting so much attention. Thanks for the support guys :)

Mrmagnumman3575370d ago (Edited 5370d ago )

usually you are pretty smart and "logical" so i dont know what shanks problem is

RedDead5370d ago

It ain't really, Drake wants treasure. He's willing to kill for treasure.

hilyou5369d ago

ya in the museum level, when Flynn showed him the guns, drake was like all tensed, and after flynn told him to relax gandhi.

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Shanks5370d ago

Hey look, its LOGICWINS trying to make a point... again.
/facepalm

aviator1895370d ago

Well, his 6 bubbles are evidence that he makes better points than you, Shanks, with only 2 bubbles.

GoldenPheasant5370d ago (Edited 5370d ago )

Completely agree, walls of text by graffiti artist Captain Obvious. @below-because the number of bubbles say everything. Morgenfel has some insightful shit to say yet he only has one bubble...? Go figure.

Ontopic: I think there is alot we dont know about nathan, for all we know he could have been part of some paramilitary death squad.

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smashcrashbash5370d ago (Edited 5370d ago )

Heard this BS before. If he is the bad guy then so is every action hero in existance including James Bond, John Mclane and Indiana Jones. Why doesn't anyone ever talk about the 'hero' Marcus Pheonix who curb stomps and chainsaws the heads off living creatures?

@ ujean69 you miss my point. I mean I have heard the Nathan is the bad guy story at least 5 times now. Just pointing out that there are other characters that are considered heroes by gamers and if you drag out Drake for being the bad guy you might as well take everyone else out too. Marcus is painted as a hero and is ten times more violent then Drake.

DasTier5370d ago

None is saying Marcus Pheonx is a hero, hes just taking up arms. Also if you knew anything about gears the humans disturbed the locust by mining for petroleum so there not really heros

LOGICWINS5370d ago

Yeah, Marcus and his team are just people trying to protect their turf, just like the Locusts.

But you could argue that the fact the Dom, Rico, and Cole always taking the frontlines in war without showing any fear is pretty damn brave and/or heroic.

mr.selfdestruct5370d ago

Lol, and if you knew about there universe you would know it was emoultion a yellow glowing liquid that is underground, not petroleum.

Eiffel5370d ago

Fair analogy considering the planet Gears takes place on supposedly is native to the Locust. In which case Humans are the aliens, and the antagonists.

mr.selfdestruct5370d ago (Edited 5370d ago )

Except for the fact that the locust are not native. They were created by genetic experimentation and manipulation by humans in a under ground LAB.

Eiffel5370d ago (Edited 5370d ago )

How is that true if they existed long before the Pendulum Wars? They're most likely native. According to the origin behind them, they started off as legends to the humans occupying Sera, of creatures stealing children. Even more so they attacked from underground during Emergence Day. The ones you're referring to are possibly the Sires, forefathers of the locusts, but that is not the Locusts origin.

A society of native mole people. The main reason they're attacking the Humans is due to the emulsion seeping into the Hollow.

Coopertone 5370d ago (Edited 5370d ago )

He's killing the competition(Nintendo, Microsoft) for superiority rights.

BlmThug5370d ago

Except Nintendo and MS are the ones killing the competition because they have games which sell and are way more popular

NarooN5369d ago

Somehow popularity is a judge of quality? I'll let you get back to playing Mario Party XXV and Halo 23.

VanguardOfCalamity5370d ago (Edited 5370d ago )

its not like Drake is killing unarmed untrained civilians - they are out to kill him and he responds like-wise...

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Uncharted Cast Doesn’t Take the Games’ Success For Granted at MCM Comic-Con

During MCM Comic Con London X EGX, CGM got the chance to be part of a press group interview with the stars of the Uncharted titles, namely the legendary Nolan North, who played protagonist Nathan Drake, Emily Rose, who portrayed Elena Fisher and Richard McGonagle, who took on the role of Victor ‘Sully’ Sullivan,

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Analyzing 'Uncharted: Drake’s Deception' – Wait, What is The Game About?

Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception has a lot to live up to as Uncharted 2: Among Thieves is an incredible and near-perfect game.

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Profchaos1670d ago

It's about retirement...oh wait

UNCHARTED2FANATIC1670d ago (Edited 1670d ago )

I cant even say what the point was its easily the worst story in the series. The online was a whole lot of fun though but overall doesn't come even close to 2

porkChop1670d ago (Edited 1670d ago )

It was a step back for sure. Personally, I thought even the MP was way better in U2. Solid game, glad I played it. I just think they didn't push as hard as they did with U2.

UNCHARTED2FANATIC1665d ago

Yes both the online and story was better in 2 no doubt

Flewid6381670d ago

The "young Drake" portion was pretty top notch, story-wise. But yeah, everything outside of that I felt was inferior.

DanielEndurance1670d ago

Villains were all over the place in this… one second they wanted Drake dead, the next they needed him, then they want him dead again, then they coulda killed him, but poisoned his friend instead, then coulda shot him again, but had brunch with him, then needed him alive, then coulda mowed him down, but decided to kill him by fire and let him escape… Uncharted 2 was way better. 😅😅

slowgamer1670d ago

=D Sounds crazy. I don't remember any of that. Played it on ps3 and I remember thinking that why was this game so bashed compared to second one. I liked it.

Chocoburger1669d ago (Edited 1669d ago )

Another thing that annoyed me about UC3 events was the agent Talbot teleporting around Turkey. It just felt off to me, and made no sense.

Also, for about one third of the game, you go on a wild goose chase to rescue Sully, who wasn't even there to be rescued, and you end up back where you started again. There was simply no pay off for all the events you go through, so it fell flat in that regard as if they couldn't figure out how to make the game longer, so they decided to side-track you to do something with no pay off, hoping you wouldn't notice due to all the incredible action set pieces they made.

Overall though, even with its flaws, I still enjoy the game.

TheEnigma3131670d ago

This was actually my least favorite in the series. Didn't have that same impact that part 2 set.

Flewid6381670d ago

Uncharted 2 is the pinnacle of the series (to me).

Granted, 4 had the best story in my opinion, but 2 was the overall best game.

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Uncharted 3 Anniversary Retrospective: Shackled By Its Precursor's Legacy

A decade after its release, how does Uncharted 3 fare today? Does its story still work? Was its precursor’s legacy a bedrock or quicksand for its own aspirations?

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SullysCigar1671d ago

When arguably the weakest game in the series is still awesome and more fun than most games today, you know you're onto a winner!

coolbeans1671d ago

I'd extend "arguably" before awesome too. Many technically demanding scenes were jaw-dropping for the time, but it's tough to ignore the sub-par context propelling the action forward.

SullysCigar1671d ago

Tough for you, perhaps, and that's fine. I enjoyed it very much. Perhaps a little less than the others in the series, but then the bar is extremely high.

I remember being blown away by the water and sand tech in U3 for the time too. It certainly was a visual treat!

LucasRuinedChildhood1670d ago (Edited 1670d ago )

It is very good, but when I originally played Uncharted 3 it was the most disappointed I'd ever been in a video-game because Uncharted 2 was just that good. I enjoyed 3 much more when I replayed it in the Nathan Drake Collection though. I could just enjoy it for what it is and accept that it's not Uncharted 2 - it's not a roller coaster, and it doesn't balance and rotate between action, puzzles, platforming and set-pieces in the same way.

Uncharted 3's gameplay is a bit more compartmentalized and focused on one thing at a time. I'm not surprised the scrapped version of Uncharted 4 was going to have no gunplay for the first half. It's also paced much differently - it takes a long time to get to the notable set-pieces. Uncharted 2 is insane from Nepal onwards which is about an hour into the game. haha.

I did like the introduction of chase sequences, and I love first hour (bar fight, young Drake) and from the airplane sequence onwards but I just think the rest of it just sort of meanders along without as much purpose as 2.

When it comes to the script, you can feel the absence of Neil Druckmann and Josh Scherr (writer on every other console Uncharted game). Drake gets hit in the face, and the game goes on a random side plot for an hour to give you some boat set-pieces. He then washes up on a beach close to where Elena is staying to get you back to the real plot. Drake just says "How convenient" to try make you laugh off how sloppy the plot got.

In retrospect, I'm not sure if Naughty Dog were ready to work on 2 different games at once. 3 clearly had production issues that 1 and 2 didn't have, and Hennig's version of 4 didn't work out. They had to crunch so hard to get the rebooted version done on time that Bruce Straley gave up making video-games.

coolbeans1670d ago

I'll give you some props for the extra analysis. I remember Druckmann climbing his way to a writer spot in UC2, but wasn't aware of Josh Scherr. I didn't know that was the reason for Straley's departure either. That's pretty damn rough.

GhostofHorizon1670d ago

They had to make some weird choices as far as story went because the actor for Cutter had to bail which left a few holes in the story.

Uncharted is one of my favourite series and while the leap from 2 to 3 was not nearly as big as the leap from 1 to 2, I think it was an amazing experience none the less.

coolbeans1670d ago

Graham McTavish's departure wasn't easy, but I don't think that would fix many holes tbh. Because the main issue to consider is the precarious mindset Naughty Dog was operating on: an increased emphasis in set pieces that HAD to go in and worrying about the context later.

Petebloodyonion1670d ago

I really liked part 3 ( Among Thieves is still the best in my opinion) My only complaint was the interactions with the villains and how they were a missed opportunity, Linda MacMahon (Marlowe) was an interesting antagonist due to the history with Sully and Nate but it fails basically flat especially with her ending. And I couldn't care about Navaro 2.0.

What I did love and made me care was Cutter, in the short time he was in the game you could feel that the guy was a good treasure hunter for example when he pulled his own notebook with the clues he founds so the team can escape a room.
It was a small touch that add a lot to the character.

Good-Smurf1670d ago

Marlowe was played by Rosalind Ayres.

MadLad1670d ago (Edited 1670d ago )

I have mixed feelings on the series. I still own all of them on the PS3, and the collection for PS4, but I didn't truly "love" any of the games until 4.

They're good games, but they always stumble on some element.
The first is good, but the climbing mechanics weren't exactly fine tuned with the first showing. Not to mention the spongey enemies if you played on anything past normal; but you're then faced with a fairly unchallenging game experience.
The second mostly fixed the climbing, but added in a pretty clumsy stealth mechanic.
Three was just two with a new story.

Four got it right though.
I don't remember once getting annoyed by any mechanic had in the game.

I know that everyone has a soft spot for 2, and 3 is sort of the black sheep of the series; but they did, overall, get progressively better. Which doesn't always happen.

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