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Microsoft: Kinect Sales in Japan Disappoint

Despite becoming the fastest selling gadget of all time in 2010, Microsoft’s Kinect accessory has failed to make its mark in Japan, with sales of the device falling short of the company’s initial expectations on the back of limited demand for its Xbox 360 console in the country, the MarketWatch reports.

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Wizziokid5368d ago

Microsoft, Japan and Disappoint always seem to be in the same sentence.

user8586215368d ago

because they too arrogant to try out systems and games that arnt developed in japan

iamnsuperman5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

Yer that is really not the reason. The kinect hasn't been tailored to the Japanese market. Different cultures, different market, different products needed. Do you think Mcdonalds sells big macs in India? No. Companies change their product to match cultural and social preferences it has nothing to do with arrogance

Kurt Russell5368d ago

Hehe, all that need is some perverted date scene / grope game and the Japanese will be all over it.

Baka-akaB5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

@above

been there done that and didnt work .

Next time dont launch a console with stuff like perfect dark zero in a market that doesnt care . Especially if your a foreign company .

"Do you think Mcdonalds sells big macs in India? No. "

Yeah you're right .Mcdonald works pretty much everywhere but they are smart enough to adapt to their local market .

Like not trying to sells beef burgers to hindus ..

IronFistChinMi5368d ago

Except that there are games being developed by Japanese devs for Kinect. Sega have 2, Project Draco and Suda 51's title. Doesn't suggest that they aren't trying to me.

news4geeks5368d ago

@iamsuperman - I think there is a deeper issue than that. When the xbox360 had more JRPGs than the ps3, the ps3 still sold far more and the 360 was still non-existent. Perhaps it is a matter of trusting the brands you're accustomed to, I'm not sure. I reckon if sony released the kinect in Japan it would fly off the shelves.

theonlylolking5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

The Japanese are smart people for choosing the PS3 over the 360. America has some of the dumbest peeps in the world and that is why the 360 is bought more than the PS3 in the USA.

@TyrionL

Butt hurt much?

TyrionL5368d ago

@ theonlylolking
Then you must defiantly be American, because the is one of the dumbest comments I've ever seen.

n4gisatroll5368d ago

There's way too much nationalism on this site. With all that national pride, you're not far from a National Socialist.

Baka-akaB5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

@news4geeks

This argument doesnt work imo . Those games came in far too late (again they launched for months without any kind of japanese centric title) , with people as a result ,even expecting those they truly cared about to be ported soon enough .
Wich is often what happened .

I've got friends that truly wanted Idol master , as an example . What was their reaction ? "I can't get a 360 just for those games when their is the ps3 and the wii . And i'm sure it will appear on ps3" . Of course some titles never came , or took some insane amount of time , but their stance sealed those sales .

Let's not also forgot how half of those initial jrpg sucked (last remnant , Infinite Undiscovery etc ) and had no appeal ... besides stuff like Lost odyssey and vesperia

from the beach5368d ago

@Baku

But the 360 had loads of Japanese support early on, as you say, Idolmaster, plus stuff like Dead Rising, EDF, Chromehounds, Dead or Alive 4, Bullet Witch, Culdcept Saga, Ninety Nine Nights.

That followed right through the years with all the RPGs, STGs, fighting games - and now on Kinect, with games from the likes of Konami, Sega, Q Entertainment, and its best upcoming games from Japanese companies.

So it really is a conundrum why gamers there have no interest in the 360. Apologies for the list-heavy post, lol.

Baka-akaB5367d ago (Edited 5367d ago )

it wasnt really early at all imo . Again the console LAUNCHED with "crap" they dont care about .

The japanese public made instead safe bets , that ended up being quite safer in the end , with most stuff they could care about released on ps3 or wii later on .

What good is proposing through the years jrpgs that they get on ps3 thanks to low sales ?
Or an idol master that get released in 2007 for a consoles released since 2005 ?

Culcept saga nov 2006 ? Ninety Nine Nights august 2006 ? etc

That list you gave isnt even of games with a broad appeal in japan , whatever the console , but extremely niche stuff .

At best shorty after release you had Dead or alive ... hardly the best selling fighting game , wich managed to miss the launch window , along with the mediocre Enchanted Arms .

Lost planet was in 2006 too , blue dragon as well . Way too late especially when a few of those games manage to again dissapoint , it's hard to recover ..

People need to stop pretending it's not important to screw up a launch that way .

You're the dark horse and the outsider , at last your hardware got a deserved bad reputation ? you just can't without any particular ace up your sleeve .

Or you end up your ass kicked like many 360 launch japanese games by a frickin' ps2 port from pc of "To Heart 2 "

from the beach5365d ago

Late response, but anyway..

Firstly, I'm suprised you don't consider releases within the first year to be early.

Your opinion that the 360's launch was a "screw up" is also controversial..

The titles I mentioned (and note that they are barely the tip of the iceberg) stayed only on 360 - that, plus what a generally good launch lineup, plus the pre-PS3 exclusives, gave it a solid first year in Japan and elsewhere, I should think.

It certainly wasn't so bad as to warrant gamers completely ignoring the console for the next five years..

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candystop5368d ago

Kinect hasn't been tailored? I'm pretty sure if Kinect had been a Nintendo or Sony innovation the Japanese would have been all over it. I don't see how it sold well to begin with but can see there outspoken hatred for MS being American. I'm just hoping next gen they worry about games instead of wasting time on Japan or Kinect together.

joeorc5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

"I'm pretty sure if Kinect had been a Nintendo or Sony innovation the Japanese would have been all over it. I don't see how it sold well to begin with but can see there outspoken hatred for MS being American."

here we go again Blame the Hatred for MS as a company?

OK let's put this in perspective , the worlds #1 OS for PC's we are talking about over 90% of the world run on which Operating system?

most of the games made for PC are made for what operating system?

If there was such a Hatred i would say japan would have moved on to Apple or Linux right now there would have been people gaming on other PC's that were not Windows based.

Hatred of Microsoft is not the issue, the Issue is many see the XBOX360 as a redundant product from Microsoft. why because many of the very games that set the system apart also go to the PC. that may seem quite unfair, but really is it?

when Gears of war was on the xbox360 it went to the PC also.
Fable HAS also Been released on the PC

the problem for most is the very games that are sup to seperate the system were put on the PC also until much later Microsoft decided to keep some exclusive to the xbox360.

there is less distinction of the XBOX360 as a platform than as an extension of the PC platform itself.

now many including me know there is alot of software on the xbox360 that is exclusive "right now" to Microsoft's XBOX360 But on the same token; with Microsoft looking to put XBL into windows 8 Based PC's
which Windows 8 will also support Kinect.

Many see the xbox360 as still an extension of the PC rightly so or misconception it does not matter at this point is pretty much the jest of it. Microsoft has to change the perception away from that point, which frankly they have been but it's not going to happen over night.It has nothing on a grand scale of hatred for

"american products from Microsoft"

it has more to do with the way the XBOX360 is seen as another PC windows based platform for Gaming.

When many of the games that are made for the Xbox360 that become big, the big Question is will those very same games make it over to the PC platform also? If so what is the point of the XBOX360?

Now im not Saying there is not a point to the xbox360, im just pointing out that many people view that; i would imagine because that very issue has dogged Microsoft ever since they been in this part of the market.

lelo2play5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

Microsoft should just ignore that region, they clearly aren't interested in anything related to the Xbox... and yes, i agree that if Kinect had been a Nintendo or Sony innovation the Japanese would have been all over it.

Microsoft shouldn't launch the Xbox 720 in Japan next generation. Maybe that way they will be interested in the console.

Ayepecks5368d ago

Japan isn't the market it once was, but you can't just ignore it. That could potentially have reverberations in other Asian markets around the area. Japan's still influential, even if not at the massive scale it once was.

Plus leaving Japan would be seen as a slap in the face, which I don't think developers would appreciate.

tiffac0085368d ago

I think it shouldn't be a surprise since most apartment rooms in Japan are small to begin with. Even with the new Nyko add-on I doubt it will be enough for some people to use Kinect unless they find a bigger room.

YodaCracker5368d ago

Japan is completely irrelevant to the Xbox 360's success.

Legion5368d ago

Not sure you needed "...to the Xbox 360's success" in that statement.

YodaCracker5368d ago

Think about it. Even if the 360 had never launched in Japan, it would STILL be ahead of the PS3 in total worldwide sales. That's how small the 360's sales were in Japan.

Baka-akaB5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

a bit of a flawed logic there .

If japan was excluded , some japanese publishers , wich helped the 360 sales just like the others , with various multi million selling franchises , might have dropped it .

With full ps3 wii support of resident evil , monster hunter , final fantasy , dmc4 and plenty other games , not sure it would be first . At least not easily

GusBricker5368d ago

This doesn't surprise me. My wife's walk-in closet is bigger than most apartments in Japan.

Droid Control5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

Time to pull out M$!

PLEASE don't do a world-wide launch of the 720 next time!
Make the Japs wait a while longer if you must release your console over there. When the 360 came out People in America and europe were desperate for the console but none could be found.

Meanwhile, over in Japan the 360's were forming piles collecting dust in the centre of store isles.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio28d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing28d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9228d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit28d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing28d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9228d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay30d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn230d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn230d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown30d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay30d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay30d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac29d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger30d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300030d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde30d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde30d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7531d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_29d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.