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Editorial: Not everyone thinks Microsoft is evil

"It seems like everyone likes to gang up on Microsoft, but I’m not sure why. Maybe it’s for attention, maybe it’s from bitterness, maybe they’re ignorant to the goings on behind the scenes, and maybe, just maybe, their beef with MS is justified. But honestly I’m tired of what I largely consider to be whining. I just want to break out the world’s smallest violin and play a sad song for them. I realize that sometimes the process developers must follow complying with Xbox Live is tough, but that’s why we don’t get several patches for a game, why we have the most secure network, and why we as consumers are happy with our service."

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ndepetris5362d ago

I've been waiting so long for someone to say this. Great article.

darthv725362d ago

as different divisions go, no they are not evil. Where people make the association is in the general form of what MS has represented in the past. The overall aspect of the company and their handling of windows and IE and office.

When they got into the console market is when gamers really showed their animosity towards the company because they felt MS had no business being in the console market. Same thing happened with sony when the first PS came out.

It's like: who are they to be entering this market that has companies like nintendo and sega with more experience. Bottom line is you can't get experience without putting your hat in the ring.

Neoninja5362d ago (Edited 5362d ago )

You bring up good points darth. Never really looked at it that way, but I'd like to also add that fanboys from both sides of the fence don't do them any justice.

Why people can't shut up and game is beyond me!

cain1415362d ago

Totally agree. Good points Darth!

smmelton5362d ago

Totally agree with that. It's almost like it's a "it's cool to hate Microsoft" thing. It's annoying.

TheMyst5362d ago

And I'm glad they did. Though MS has largely disappointed these last two years, without their competition, SONY would never have improved PSN as much as they have, there would be no tropies, no in-game XMB, the price would still be very high and I'm pretty sure SONY wouldn't have pushed to have as many exclusives as they have.

Competition is a WIN for us gamers.

BrutallyBlunt5362d ago

@Neoninja
Totally agree. This crap that people continue after all of these years needs to stop. What exactly has any of it accomplished aside from lots of people sounding like idiots?

There is a core group out there who are hell bent on revenge for all the trash talk the Playstation 3 went through early on from the media and from people on forums. To them picking out any faults with Microsoft/XBOX360 is justification.

We don't need Microsoft to act like Sony, we don't need Sony to act like Steam and we don't need Nintendo to act like anyone else either. They each need to create their own identity and with so many choices out there what is there really to complain about anyways?

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littletad5362d ago

A great opinion article, and with developer comments to back up his claims. We need more of these.

cain1415362d ago

I think their is just a real disconnect between large faceless corporations and the average gamer. So when a developer says something it's always easier to side with them. Even if it's equally biased...

littletad5362d ago

I used to side with developers more, but there ongoing battle with used game sales and overall ownership rights has me thinking us gamers are just tools. There's a severe lack of trust and quality, replaced by greed.

Godmars2905362d ago

- The apparent need to control/dominate whatever market they enter.

- Seeing what the leading market trend is, then using whatever means to become the leader of that trend even though they don't understand it.

- That many of their issues with BR/HD-DVD had to do with many backstage agendas. Sony refusing to use MS's menu system.

- XBL being primarily a gamer accessory, yet has separate 3rd party media attached to it.

- Actively creates divisions. XBL Gold/Silver.

Don't see MS as evil necessarily, just a large and bloated company that often disrupts and holds back development more than it innovates. Just doesn't promote innovation.

cain1415362d ago

Sounds like a company trying to make money haha.

Godmars2905362d ago

A company willing to compromise the quality of their product or the development of the industry to make money you mean. Puts more into advertising to cover up the limitations and issues of what they're offering than they do into improving or fixing it. Those the main accusations most often repeated when the call of "MS is evil" is made.

This wouldn't have been so popular either:

Vega755362d ago

Some of the point you just made is the samething Sony and many other companies are doing. So why only hate them

mandf5362d ago

and always talking down everything the competition does. When someone innovates or introduces something new, they always say it isn't needed. I hate MS for talking smack, overpriced accessories (20gig harddrive for $180 when it first came out)and charging for online gaming.(it's free everywhere else) Security has nothing to do with a paid service. Look at PC gaming

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whydoyouask5362d ago (Edited 5362d ago )

Talking smack? Are you delusional? When the PSN was down for an entire month did Microsoft ever criticize them? No. Now Sony on the other hand...

And guess what, those "over-priced" accessories didn't cost me anything. You know why? Because I DIDN'T BUY THEM.

BrutallyBlunt5362d ago

DK286K is right, Sony charged for a lot of accesories on the Playstation 2 and did that hurt hardware sales? Even the Gamecube came with 4 controller ports. Microsoft decided to come in late with superior technology and more options like a built in hard drive but guess how much money they lost? Now look at Sony who came in as high as $600 and they too lost billions of dollars. Meanwhile the Wii doesn't even play DVD movies and look at how many units it sold.

Microsoft decided to take a different approach and used the Playstation 2 model which was price it competitively with a reasonable entry point and charge consumers for upgrades they may want.

mandf5362d ago (Edited 5362d ago )

I agree with all of you about the PS2 and overpriced items. I bought them all and hated Sony for it at the time. I had no choice because Ps2 is where the games were then. Today Sony gave us viable options for cost. Ms on the other hand took it to a new level. I don't think online gaming should be charged for. If Sony did this, I would switch to multiplayer games on PC. My Wii doesn't really fit online needs but it's free.

Whydoyouask

I agree with everything you said but it doesn't change the fact that you pay for a $60 dollar game and you have to pay to unlock the rest. I bought the harddrive, the wifi adapter, the battery pack adapter, and live. That is extortion.

I must commend Ms for staying quiet, but it was in there best interest. If live got hacked, it would have created a vacuum because money is involved. I'm not trying to be a fanboy but MS is very disrespectful to consumers.

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Baka-akaB5362d ago (Edited 5362d ago )

Still far from a fan , their ways changed ever since they entered the console market but mostly forced by the hand of their competition , some of wich are becoming even worse (apple comes to mind) .

But it's not as if i'll just forget an history of abusive tactics and misplaced arrogance .

For years they were both a boon and a curse to pc in general .

PC aside , and gaming wise , i'm just afraid i'm not truly fan of any of their own ips ..

smashcrashbash5362d ago (Edited 5362d ago )

Exactly. Many people don't remember Microsoft's underhanded tactics and bullish nature when it came business. They practically bulldozed their way into the gaming industry and have one of the few consoles that hasn't done anything to advance gaming in the least.

What I don't get is why people praise them for their underhanded tactics, lies and exaggeration. RROD for example was a careless attempt by Microsoft to get ahead of the competition by using its users as guinea pigs. They allowed the system out with a console destrying glitch.And yet people smile about it as if they did you a big favour or something. Sony and Nintendo aren't saints but Microsoft is the worst out of the three.So 'evil'? No. Untrustworth, greedy and underhanded? Yes.

@ Godmars290 so right. Microsoft never innovate .Everything the 360 is for example, is a copy off someone else.

whydoyouask5362d ago (Edited 5362d ago )

RROD was a mistake that they took responsibility for, costing them billions of dollars. You can't bring up the RROD issue and ignore everything they did for it.

And how exactly DOES MS stifle innovation? What exactly are you talking about? People have been throwing that out like they actually know what the hell they're talking about, but all you're doing is copying what some Sony exec said without giving any evidence.

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nycredude5362d ago

This site is getting boring. Nothing but fan arguing like they own the companies that makes their consoles.

There is NO fucking excuse for RROD. It wasn't a mistake. It was a inherent design flaw that they most definitely knew about. They made a calculated decision to release the console anyway because a redesign of the console at that late a stage would have negated their lead in the next gen race. Anyone who thinks they didn't know has no clue. MS is always constantly battling anti-trust lawsuits all over the world. MS has in the past and will always do what is necessary to bully the competition.

Sony had their issues too. The YLOD was a design flaw also.

All the companies have their issues but IMO MS is the worst. I've used every windows operating system since 3.11 and they all gave me headaches and even today there are countless patches. My 360 started dying so I had to get rid of it. Paying for online blows chunks. And if all the consoles charge for online next gen it will be because of MS.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio15d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing15d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9215d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit15d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing15d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9215d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay17d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn218d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn217d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown17d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay17d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay17d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac17d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger18d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300018d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde18d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde17d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7519d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_16d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.