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Microsoft Comments on Xbox 720

The first console of this generation, the Xbox 360 is getting on a bit in years, with many expecting a new console to be announced soon. Microsoft has now commented on rumors of the 360's successor, dubbed the 720.

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doctorstrange5293d ago

To see it and the PS4, although I still want to squeeze a couple more years out of the old gals.

Lazy_Sunday5293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

Because we've started to see major compression between PC gaming capabilities and console gaming capabilities. There is a glass ceiling--DVDs only have 8GB of space, and that limits ALL gaming capacities, since most devs want to stick it all on one disc. Then they want to compress the graphics, reduce the poly-count, etc., etc... The longer we limit content, the more comfy most devs will become with a limit. This is something we don't want to happen. We are reducing resolutions and framerate capacities. Trailers are misleading because the console footage doesn't look half as good as what a commercial might show of PC gameplay.

When we entered 2011 we as gamers have found out how far behind our consoles really are from PC gaming today for virtually the same price. A good gaming rig with a 1TB HDD, 2GB DDR5 GPU, 6GB of DDR3 RAM at 1300MHz, and a 3.1GHz cheapy AMD processor will run you $480 and can be a personal super computer. That's more value than a PS3 or 360 sitting with a 320GB HDD with any accessories, and if you don't understand hardware sp34k, that kind of computer has twenty times better graphics than the 360 or PS3 could dream about, and it's still on the bottom of the high-end pile.

vsr5293d ago

I hope xbox 720 will have Avatar like graphics

RIP xbox 360 (RROD)

RedDead5293d ago

Xbox 360 RIP(4th replacement)

I knew it was on it's way out by the sound

guitarded775293d ago

@vsr

Rendering of that quality at gaming speed is impossible at the present. Expect next gen consoles to be more like the current high end in PC's.

Shinuz5293d ago

Oh come on a pc is gonna cost you more than that, where`s your Optical drive, OS (probly win7 64Bit), power supply AND Case?
that`s at least a good 300$ more and don`t forget to add taxes and shipping (if ordered from the net).

Lazy_Sunday5293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

Yeah, I left out tax... but then you have to tax up the consoles as well which then wouldn't make much a difference.

Screw the damn case, that's for people who need their PCs to actually look good on the outside. I know my PC plays decent under the hood, I don't need no fancy-smanshy case!
I bought an HP desktop with 6GB of 1300MHz DDR3 RAM, a 3.1GHz AMD Phenom processor, including Windows 7 Home Premium, and lets not forget the 1TB HDD. Then I bought my GPU on sale. This was all at Best Buy, believe it or not.

Now I run BFBC2 at 80FPS.

Happily ever after, the end.

The moral of the story? Be a smart shopper :)

SuperLupe5293d ago

Welcome to N4G. The only place on earth where people still talk about RROD.

Sooo 2007.

TitanUp5293d ago

completely agree with you i don't understand the disagrees you got

bozebo5293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

Super, my 360 RRoD again this June.

I'm not going to shell out for another new one again to avoid the repeated breakages... (I bought my elite after my original died twice, and my elite RRoD for the second time this year).

Only the latest Elite models and the S versions are without the RRoD flaw.

So yeah, the majority of gamers' 360s at the moment will be able to RRoD. How is that 2007? More like 2005-next_gen.

Anyway, back on topic.

There is room for great games on current gen consoles, when talking about hardware capabilities.

The problem is a game wont be able to sell many millions if it doesn't have cutting edge graphics.
So they have to push the systems to the very edge of their capabilities, and also fill out the disk with higher resolution textures - meaning content can suffer (look at GTA 4 and Oblivion compared to their predecessors).

The development costs are so astronomically huge that releasing just one single badly sold game means the studio has no option but to close the doors - they spent millions developing it and have to use the sales revenue to get out of debt.

If the market wasn't so interested in graphics that the consoles can't actually pump out - we would be getting far better games and the consumer base wouldn't be so single minded; there would be a lot more innovation in gaming and a lot more development studios would still be open today.

Next gen will have the exact same problems - but the big budget games might actually be good because there will be enough disk space to put some actual content in and the systems will have enough RAM to broaden the scope of individual environments and increase AI possibilities.

Graphics... they are only one small, minor part of the whole thing. Imagine if the current gen had not existed, there would be hundreds of amazing games running on the PS2, Xbox and GC that havn't existed and never will - creativity is far more important than technology. Anyway, that is probably why Sony and MS are OK with holding out on the next gen for a while, not only is the current gen good enough (though MS keep claiming that Kinect has something to do with it?) but the next generation is going to be EXTREMELY hard on small developers - most of them will simply shut the doors, they can't possibly hire enough staff to produce games to a high enough quality for them to sell enough to cover the costs of development (tens of millions).

Hozi895293d ago

@Shinuz

Here's a $480 machine thats gonna let you play the best games out there in higher quality that Any console.

http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

kreate5293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

@hozi89 and other pc gamers

hey uh... the super pc at affordable prices is good and all.
but its just not the same experience as the consoles.

i play games mostly on the ps3. some on the 360. and even fewer on the pc.
other than blizzard games and guild wars. i dont play much pc gaming.

mostly i end up downloading movies. anime. tv shows. until my hdd is full than i just go back and pick up the ps3 controller.

its probably the same for pc gamer. they like the pc setting better than a console setting. for the obvious reasons that was stated from the above comments.

but its no reason to hate on each other. not that u are a hater but i mean in general. cuz pc gamers look down on console gaming.

MaxXAttaxX5293d ago

That $480 PC is more expensive than any console currently on the market.
And besides:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
It looks no better than consoles.
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[On Topic]

A new generation of consoles is still a bit too soon.

Currently, the gap between consoles and PC isn't as big as the leap between PS2 and PS3.
We need more time and better tech.

EVILDEAD3605293d ago

Doesnt matter what they are saying NOW..come June next year at E3 there WILL be a Xbox 720 announcement. But it will still be a year and a half away at that point. So we are still feasibly 2 years away from 720 and PS4.

This holiday is in the bag..the 360 will do well as Kinect has proven to be a holiday system seller for Micrsoft.

Next holiday will be the last holiday for the 360 before 720 arrives and the 360 will go out with a swan song..Halo 4

At that point Kinect will be reduced in price but the 3rd iteration of software will contend with the launch of Wii-U.

Again, that will be the last holiday Wii-U wil be on the shelf without new haqrdware to compete with it. So of course they arent talking about the future they want people to buy into what's going on right now.

Evil

BattleAxe5293d ago

@ Lazy Sunday

Its funny because when I'm playing God of War 3 or Uncharted 2, I don't seem to be able to see this so called "compression" you are referring to. The 360 on the other hand has been compressed to the max, and games like Metro 2033 really showed that. So in short, I wont buy a PS4 for at least another 2 years. I was an early PS3 adopter, so I'm going to wait for a price drop this time around.

SuicideShaun5293d ago

@lazy sunday

Implying buying a prebuilt pc or anything from hp makes you a smart buyer.

Rush5293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

Yep BattleAxe,

Them corridor platformers really showcase the PS3's power, Sony should release a game called Keyhole shooter next that has Avatar like graphics but compensates for it by only allowing you to see it through a key hole.

andibandit5293d ago

The PS3 still has plenty of power left, developers havent even used it to it's full potential yet.

MaxXAttaxX5293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

Downplay PS3 games all you want. They're fun and keep the player engaged while looking good and don't have to meet YOUR standards.
Don't be jelly.

Hayabusa 1175293d ago

@Lazy_Sunday

Remember that more content, higher detailed models e.t.c. all require more time to make, and more time = more money, so once the production values of the game rises, so does the cost and time. Games are already getting quite expensive to make as it is. Not sayign we should stagnate or anything but it's probably quite beneficial to stick with current gen a little bit longer.

I'm also sure if they released a console 5 years after the 360 came out it wouldn't be that much of step up in terms of capability anyway. Alot of people would've moaned :/

I say take their time and get it right. I know lots of good games that only come on one disc :)

Lazy_Sunday5292d ago

@Super Lube: One of the reasons I stopped playing 360 for a year and a half was because of RROD. I got--not one, not two--but ten of them from my release model up until about early 2009, where I stopped playing 360. I didn't say anything about RROD, but after the 3rd or 4th RROD I bought a PS3.

@kreate: it definitely is a 'different' experience. The downside is that the community can be quite uncommunicative unless you have a group of friends that you've met or some people you've played with in text chat for a while. Though, it is much more affordable than buying games on console, which is one of the reasons I play PC. And with services like Steam, you can easily buy games at great deals, and check them out on PC.

@Nathan Explosion: please, if you're going to use a comparison video, make sure to get one in HD, not 480p standard def. Also, read the little info section--recording programs like FRAPS do cause a dip in FPS--HOWEVER most games ran at that framerate in that shit video. MW2 runs at about 120+ FPS constant on most any slightly high end GPU versus console which runs at about 59.5-60.1FPS constant ( http://www.youtube.com/watc... Also, in the info section on the video you provided, the games were running regularly at 60FPS or higher. NFS Shift is maxed running at 60FPS, and it runs at 30FPS on mostly medium quality on consoles. L4D1&2 on any low high end GPU will also run at 60+FPS. Oh, and yet we also have Crysis running with the Real Lifesis mod ( http://www.youtube.com/watc...
@Suicide Shawn: Yeah, it's lame, but it was cheap and it runs great.

MaxXAttaxX5292d ago (Edited 5292d ago )

Whether the video is HD or not, I should still be able to see the AMAZING difference between that and consoles. But there wasn't any.
You can talk about frames all you want. It doesn't make much difference to me.

So you can run MW2 @ 120fps and for some reason, I'm just reeeally not impressed.

MaxXAttaxX5292d ago (Edited 5292d ago )

what you call "stuck", I call convenience. Have you ever thought that not everyone is obsessed with graphics?

I can run the same games (+exclusives) that comes out for the system and not give two sh**s about it.
Why would I want to shell out another $480+ to have a PC that's competent when I'm comfortable with what I have already.

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Genghis5293d ago

so...how did they comment on the 720, exactly?

"Are you working on the 720?"

"Sure."

...the end.

DeFFeR5293d ago

Exactly - it's your standard "We're always doing R&D" comment...

Non story looking for hits with idiotic headline.

Nitrox5293d ago

I had to lol, you summed it up perfectly!

BABY-JEDI5293d ago

I was actually hoping to get some news, instead of someone reafirming the obvious. Obviously all console manufacturers/developers are continuing their research & costing analysis.

_BudWiser_5293d ago

I hope we keep on till 2015 or 16. Because like PS2 towards its end, there were games putting out amazing things and also tons more games were still being made, meaning developers were stepping it up. If they make a move too soon, we'll go through another stagnation of innovation...hey that rhymed!!

For anyone to say we had innovation this generation (another rhyme..hehe), just shows they know shit about anything. yeah we had some here and there, but never to the scale of what PS2 did to the gaming industry.

Not a sony fan...just the bud talking!

SilleGamer5293d ago

Considering this generation has been the longest, aren't us gamers entitled to a big step up in visuals.

This generation was a massive leap, next should be too!

JackBNimble5293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

This gen hasn't been the longest, maybe for the 360 because MS dumped the original xbox after 4 years.

The ps3 will not reach 5 years untill november , and that's just in north america, it will be 5 years in the EU next spring.

SilleGamer5293d ago

@JackBNimble,

It will undoubtedly be the longest generation.

Sony may announce the PS4 at E3 2012 but it seems a lot more likely that the successor to the Xbox 360 will be announced, with Sony following with their own event - like the PS Vita.

subtenko5293d ago

This is the 100th time they've commented about the xbox720...

Agree or Disagree if you Agree

Lite_ratchet5293d ago

Only the blind believes PS4 and the next xbox will come out the same year. the PS3 still has legs. next 360 will be 2012 or 2013. PS4 we wont see until 2015.

andibandit5293d ago

Exactly, the PS3 still has alot of juice left, most games dont even use all the SPU's. Once developers take full advantage and learn to code, we will see some even more amazing games.

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R4MBO5293d ago

An E3 unveil seems likely.

kneon5293d ago

He didn't specify a year so there is a very good chance he's right :)

tiffac0085293d ago

MS and Sony will probably wait and see how the Wii U performs before they announce anything.

fluffydelusions5293d ago

Doubt it. They'd rather announce it and steal some of Nintendo's thunder.

tiffac0085293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

Probably but only if MS or Sony is willing to release their new console on the same year.

There is no point in stealing Ninty's thunder if your going to miss the holiday sales. Unless Ninty screws up.

fluffydelusions5293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

Yep, e3 2012 new xbox announcement. They've already said it's being worked on.

LOGICWINS5293d ago

If thats true, then current 360 sales will slump since people will just wait for the 720. Which means MS could potentially cut the price of the 360 by a HUGE margin to ensure that anyone even remotely interested in a 360/Kinect will buy it between now and E3.

fluffydelusions5293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

@LOGICWINS I'm still wondering why they haven't cut the price yet but it's only a matter of time I suppose. I suspect they will cut the product line by $50...Kinect - $99, Xbox 4gb - $150, xbox 250gb - $250

Perjoss5293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

@LOGICWINS

Another reason for them to keep very quiet about a new console is the fact that the 1 year lead they had over Sony worked out extremely well for them, and the less Sony knows about the date for the new console the better, they really want that 1 year lead again. Combine that lead with a console that does not RRoD and its a very good situation for Microsoft, unless they go bananas and heavily focus on casual / Kinect.

Having said all that its not a good situation for gamers if 1 company takes a clear lead (a company with a clear lead never tries as hard as one that is 'losing' or neck & neck with its rival), healthy competition is what has made current gen so great (imo).

DeeBee5292d ago

@Logicwins

That is precisely the reason they keep quite about when a new console is going to be released. Sure they can allude to the fact that it's in development, but they sure as hell won't say when it's coming. As you said, if they did then current gen sales would die instantly as people would wait for the next generation to be released. Keeping quite they can maintain high sales right up until the next gen is ready to roll out the door.

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user8586215293d ago

With the 360 they gave us

Achievements
Party Chat
Xbox Live arcade

wonder what the 720 bring to the table

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BigWoopMagazine5293d ago

Unfortunately no, MS has already declined offers to use blu-ray tech. Considering they definitely need a higher capacity storage device, they must have something else up their sleeves...

bebojet5293d ago

I wonder why they can't just make some kind of exclusive deal with Toshida to use HD-DVD since they refuse to use Blue-Ray.

Bladesfist5293d ago

Who would want to use blu-ray, Longer load times for what gain? A good HDD is much better.

ghaleon19805293d ago

No it's not going to be blu-ray. I think Microsoft may be considering significant Cloud integration on this one....

Jdrm035293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

I agree. It will be Blu Ray. If people haven't noticed, Microsoft pushes the 360 as an "entertainment" console/hub, not just a gaming console.

You can watch netflex, hulu, rent movies, buy movies, use the xbox as a media extender. People, including myself, have the 360 at the center of their media room. You can stream live tv to it via WMC, watch recorded tv, watch ripped movies etc etc and has dvd playback.

Do you really think they are not going to use Blu ray? It would be illogical to think so when looking at there entertainment objective with the 360.

IMO of course.

TheDivine5293d ago

I think ms will use dvds like the pc does. Run the whole game off of a hard drive so the dvd can hold larger amounts and the laser wont wear out. Running games from disk is getting outdated imo. We know AMD said it will be a beast so i cant wait to see it. I love launches because it brings a ton of new ip's although i usually wait to buy consoles until theyre cheaper personally.

Bob5705293d ago

Doubt it. That would mean MS would have to pay royalties to Sony.

I think it would be more likely for them to go to a system like PC. Compressing the files so that they fit on a DVD, then having the user install the game on their hard drive. They would have to have a fairly sizable hard drive though.

Jdrm035293d ago

@bob570

That is a misconception because Sony does not own blu ray. While Sony was a leader in the development of Blu Ray there are actually 9 founder of the Blu Ray Disc format that formed the "Blu Ray Disc Association." The 9 original consists of companies like Samsung, LG, Sony, Hitachi, etc etc.

Today there are nearly 30 companies that sit on the board of this Association and more likely then not Microsoft will be one if they aren't secretly already with their involvement in the Blu Ray codecs.

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Venoxn4g5293d ago

please, don't make X720 with nuclear CPU or GPU.. because it could be a 2012's world's end :D /j

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Rettom5293d ago

Microsoft will release Xbox first, but I bet PS4 will be better.

doctorstrange5293d ago

Interested to see what kind of hit Sony will take with the PS4's price. I doubt they'll be able to do what they did with the PS3.

Jdrm035293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

Better as in regards to what? Games? maybe but that is all opinion. Hardware? Maybe, but seeing as the ps1 adn ps2 were the weakest consoles in their generations and made Sony ridiculous amounts of money, do you really think they will go for the powerful hardware? What if they return to being the company that takes a half a step forward and goes for the 299 pricing?

No certainty can be offered about the quality of the next xbox/ps/wii since we haven't used them yet alone have concrete information about them haha.

Picnic5293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

Yes I can see that it makes sense that it will be called Xbox 720. Anyway I've got to be off. I'm going to play the sequel to San Fransisco Rush 2049. It's called San Fransisco Rush 4098. It's a law that people have to double the numbers in their games when they release sequels. Then I might watch that new channel that Channel 4 have launched- it's called Channel 8 of course.
If it is actually called Xbox 720 I will eat my hat. It is incredibly unlikely to be called that. Think what the number 720 is synonmous with- standard level high definition. Xbox 1080 would be a hugely more likely name but it might be a word instead.

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Microsoft has revoked the DMCA takedown that forced an indie Minecraft-like off Steam

Microsoft claimed the indie game uses "Minecraft content."

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Microsoft Expects More Xbox Content and Services Revenue Decline Despite Game Pass Growth

During the conference call for Q2 of FY2026, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood talked about the future of the xbox business.

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dveio21d ago

«partly offset by growth in Xbox Game Pass.»

I take it with a big grain of salt. They've been reporting nothing about GP, only words.

We still don't have any hardware numbers, no software units sold, no subscription numbers, no PC vs console GP, we don't have any profit numbers ... we literally have nothing but overall revenue and words.

Reaper22_21d ago

Does it really matter? Are you shareholder? Gamers have to stop acting like these companies owe us something. Its obvious everything is down. Thats completely normal in all businesses. It will be up and down again.

dveio21d ago

Yes, since they don't get tired spewing out word salad 12 months a year.

"Biggest launch", "millions of players", "growth of", "here look our revenue", "We buy ABK", "We'll bring you 1st party every quarter", "Biggest this, biggest that", "We always wanted to share games with everyone", "We're growing", "biggest launch", "millions of players", ... you get the point.

They either shut up.

Or deliver numbers like Nintendo, Playstation, hell even Tencent does.

On a sidenote:

Just years ago, Microsoft wanted to buy out a whole lot more than just Zenimax and ABK. They even wanted to push Sony out and collect Nintendo in.

You bet your butt I'm demanding numbers.

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Christopher21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

In an article discussing industry matters, telling people to not worry or want better information on the industry is antithesis to the whole point of it. I'm going to try this out with all those review articles. I mean, who cares about scores, just try it out for yourself, that's the only opinion that matters.

dveio21d ago

«In an article discussing industry matters, telling people to not worry or want better information on the industry is antithesis to the whole point of it.»

Well.

That's it.

Case closed!

Profchaos21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

He might be a shareholder you can get a etorro or whatever online platform about and throw 20 bucks into Microsoft boom shareholder

BehindTheRows21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Yes, it matters. This is business! Some gamers have to stop acting like it only matters when the company they prefer wants to play ball.

Eonjay21d ago

The fact that shareholders are also in the dark im sure is also completely fine with you and Microsoft doesn't owe them anything either amirite? Not withstanding how silly and potentially inappropriate it is for someone to defend a public company from hiding sales information, you are also completely wrong.

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dveio21d ago

@varora

Thank you.

For over 10 years we've been in those quarterly discussions.

Yet Nintendo and Playstation are the only manufacturers that deliver numbers, that deliver proof, that give us numerical baselines to either brag about or compliment them.

The only fraction that's been pulling doooozens of doooozens, hundreds and thousands of word salad bribberish comments out of their Xbox'clestotitis fan cloud is the die hard Xbox community.

And by doing that they're even defending that downward spiral Xbox is suffering from.

Bring the numbers buddies, or else just stfu.

Reaper22_21d ago

Nintendo and Playstation can deliver all the numbers they want. It doesnt matter much because hardware isn't the only way to make money in the industry. Maybe decades ago but not now. That's why you see sony putting more and more games on PC. They know its the games that keeps the money coming. Consoles stagnate but not the software.
The fact is that Microsoft was and is never gonna outsell them. The competition's console sales doesnt really affect Microsoft"s profit margin much if at all.. Look at how many more consoles sony sells and then go look at what they report in profit. The gap is nowhere near the gap in console sold. Hardware doesn't dictate market trends.

IRetrouk21d ago

Microsoft doesn't report xbox profit, so how can we compare them.......
Console sales lead to those software sales, thats not a theory its a fact, old days, these days... doesn't matter, one company is doing much better than the other, and thats partly because of said console sales...

rlow121d ago

I really think Call of Duty underperforming, the raise in subscription prices and Hoods ridiculous expectations of 30% return. Is what led to the lower numbers.

Reaper22_21d ago

Maybe, but COD sold 8 million on xbox which counted for 40% of the sales.

IRetrouk21d ago

Not even close to being true

BehindTheRows21d ago

Show us the article/sources with these sales numbers.

Chevalier21d ago

Could you show us the profit charts while you're at it? Would love to see this 'gap' you mentioned. Should be easy to show that right?

Eonjay21d ago

This whole report is confusing to me until I remember content and service are separate. Content went down... okay we get that because COD 'bombed' but Services went up because of the price increase which mitigated most of the lost from the cancelations. Okay got it.

I wouldn't blame the results on Amy but she sure as hell had unreasonable expectations.

GamePass has put Xbox in a bad position where the absolutely need PlayStation to make their numbers. So if a big game like COD bombs... they got a problem.

The fact that their service revenue (GamePass) can't drive growth on its own is a huge red flag. That was supposed to be the whole point.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 9% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 32%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q2 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming business.

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1Victor21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

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raWfodog21d ago

I don't why people waste their time replying to the alt-account clown. Their comment is going to get flagged as spam as it always does and those comments (and all replies) will eventually disappear. Better to ignore them and carry on constructive debate with those not scared to post with a permanent account.

1Victor21d ago

@raW: “ I don't why people waste their time replying to the alt-account clown.”
He suffer from from keyboardrhrea and can’t wait the average month of clean posting to have a permanent account.

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@taco: “ Funny that this website actually works again when there's prime opportunity to slam on Xbox.
LOL it's all admins ever give a shit about
The funny thing is that it’s at random at least for me, sometimes is working find and other times it doesn’t let me do anything even flag the spammers.
This isn’t a us vs them it’s a everyone is in the swamp up to the neck

Tacoboto21d ago

Funny that this website actually works again when there's prime opportunity to slam on Xbox.

LOL it's all admins ever give a shit about

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Outside_ofthe_Box22d ago

Pretty surprising on revenue and content being down. Obviously hardware being down is expected, but you'd think that the GamePass price hike, CoD, and things such horizon 5 coming to PS5 would drive things up. No wonder MS is all-in on the multiplat strategy, don't really have choice at this point. There might be another GP price hike this year.

SimulationDaily22d ago

COD is likely the issue. It appears BO7 is doing significantly worse than BO6. Game Pass is apparently growing, so the problem isn't there.

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SimulationDaily22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

@Varora: What you "hear" (from your uncle who works at Nintendo?) is irrelevant when the CFO of Microsoft says the opposite in the conference call.
Incidentally, "content and services" are down, not just services, which include Call of Duty. If you don't know how to interpret financials, don't try 😂

Edit: Oh wait... another troll account made 46 minutes ago. I really need to learn to check before engaging. 😂

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Kurt Russell21d ago

I noped my way out on the last price hike. Whilst Ultimate was convenient for a while being also able to Play on PC, it became too rich for my blood.

CrashMania22d ago

Wonder how the goalposts will be moved this time, it shifted from exclusives and console sales, to revenue, where now then.

Lightning7722d ago

No goal post. It was down last January also. Amy Hood predicted this was gonna happen. You gave us and downs, that's simply how it works.

ocelot0721d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Think it was down last January but I don't know why. There is probably a genuine reason for it.

DivineHand12522d ago

There is no incentive to buy into a closed ecosystem with no exclusives. I wish they would just make windows lite or steam os bootable on the Xbox so long time fans who still own the console can get some enjoyment.

Lightning7722d ago

Closed ecosystem? How's it closed?

__y2jb21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

All consoles are closed eco systems. This in itself is not a problem but a closed eco system without exclusives is pointless when there’s alternatives that have them.

NotoriousWhiz21d ago

That's why xbox's next (and final) "console" will actually be a PC.

Christopher21d ago

This is also why Microsoft has been marketing really hard for the elimination of exclusives in general. They are out of the console business and into publishing games and subscription services. They need exclusives to die so they can end the battle with console markets.

Lightning7721d ago

@yb it's games and services are are on PC, tablets, phones and TV's not just found on Console. Even it's games are on other systems.

It's not closed at all. It's games going everywhere is probably the worst idea MS did you're right about that.

Christopher21d ago

You do know that DivineHand is talking about the hardware losses, not the games, right? The hardware is a closed system. It has seen two digit declines each year for at least 3 years in a row.

derek22d ago

And Microsoft wants to release another super expensive console next gen? Bizzaro world economics over there. Phillip Bartholomew Spencer will be promoted on the strength of these loses. Lol

TriniOutsider22d ago

Their next console has to be released. I could only imagine how much R&D they've already put into their next platform.

derek22d ago

Sunk-cost fallacy in action.

__y2jb21d ago

Yes let’s release so we can lose even more money!

Eonjay21d ago

Its a PC.. I don't think they spent a lot of money to R&D the idea of releasing a prebuilt PC. And they are not subsidizing it so by that token I don't see any reason why they wouldn't release it unless they pivot from hardware altogether.

NotoriousWhiz21d ago

They're just releasing a PC. And they don't intend to subsidize the cost so it's going to priced like any other PC and probably expected to ship PC-like numbers and not the many millions that consoles sell. After that, they'll eventually go third party and xbox hardware will be a thing of the past. Sega says hi.

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