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When Sony will "seriously consider" PS4

Eurogamer: Sony has "no desire" to enter next gen now. Sony will launch its next generation home console when developers are unable to improve the games they make, a senior executive at the company has said.

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JoGam5399d ago

They already considered it.

jaosobno5399d ago (Edited 5399d ago )

Agreed. PS4 is in development since long time ago. Of course they won't say they are working on it since such a statement might put people off from buying PS3 and instead save money for PS4.

reynod5399d ago

I dont get it why do console gamers want new hardware already?

disturbing_flame5399d ago (Edited 5399d ago )

I prefer a console well made and future proof than a console done just to release it the sooner possible.

Sony must really understand what they want with this next generation, learn from the mistakes they could have done, if they take their time it's not a problem, the only thing that must be great : the final product.

xer05399d ago (Edited 5399d ago )

@reynod

watched an interesting discussion on Gametrailers recently; and I have to ask you, how many phones or televisions have you owned in the past 5 years?

Don't they both do the same thing? Yet - you must upgrade every other year, right? Why do you need to buy a new TV or Phone?

This console cycle has gone on long enough. In the past, new consoles came into market roughly every 5 years. In the case of Microsoft, they killed the the first Xbox after 4 years.

If you can't afford a next generation console... that's just fine by me. I know i'll be buying into the next generation as soon as they are available.

Kaos_Vll5399d ago (Edited 5399d ago )

@reynod
The only console gamers that want new hardware are those that like to have the newest thing, just because it's new. They are the same ones that replace their iphone every year or their tv every year.

If they really wanted to get the most out of their gaming they would just game on pc where they can improve EVERYTHING THEMSELVES, right? These same people will bitch and moan about outdated tech yet even if new consoles came out this year the tech would be outdated in less than 2 years by pc specs, so why not game on pc in the first place, right?
and yes you can hook up a gamepad to the pc so save that lame excuse.

It's all about "I have the newest" not about what the "newest" brings. If the new gen is going to do more than just improve graphics I'm all for it.

I'm sick and tired of console gamers wanting consoles to do what pc's do. If you want pc specs, get a damn pc.

Substance1015399d ago (Edited 5399d ago )

wrong post

Ju5399d ago (Edited 5399d ago )

"and yes you can hook up a gamepad to the pc so save that lame excuse." Of course, and it will take you at least an hour per game to configure that right (if at all) - still no standard that all games simply support a 360 protocol/standard/button layout, ts ts ts. Well, you should have that time on a PC, it takes you an hour to install that game anyway. LOL

Substance1015399d ago (Edited 5399d ago )

"Of course, and it will take you at least an hour per game to configure that right (if at all)"

Theres 3 billy goats trying to cross your bridge, you really should be getting back to your post.

Seriously dude you'd have to be retarded not to be able to plug in a 360 controller into the PC, cause really thats what it really does take to make a controller work.

DS3 controller takes a bit more work because you need to install motionjoy. once you install motionjoy you can even remap buttons on a game that would not usually allow it, thats a big bonus imo.

reynod5399d ago (Edited 5399d ago )

@substance

Nvm Ju, his comments clearly show hes just butthurt about being limited to 6 year old tech. Yet read most of his posts hes purely delusional about the tech in his 6 yr old console, think too much reading into Sonys marketing material from 2005 is to blame. He literally took Kutaragi's 120fps claims too seriously lol.

@Xer0

"If you can't afford a next generation console... that's just fine by me. I know i'll be buying into the next generation as soon as they are available. "

I am not a Console gamer hence am not limited to some companies decisions on what hardware i use. The tech i am currently using is ahead of what is probably going to be used in the next consoles(provided they are released in the next 1-2 years).

@Kaos

I completely agree with you, however consoles gamers just do it to themseves then whine about being limited to dated tech.

However console gamers too need to realise Sony and MS have taken huge losses this gen. Sony as of Feb 2011 was still 4.7billion usd in the red. If i was a Sony shareholder i would obviously be wanting them to atleast recover the money they lost this gen before starting another loss making round. Hence console gamers need to realise these companies need to make a profit before they can think about releasing their next machines.

tiffac0085399d ago (Edited 5399d ago )

@ reynod

Sony is in the red because their TV's ain't selling well. You can remove the cost of the hack or the devastating Earthquake and even double what the Playstation is making now and I think they would still be in the red because of their TV sales.

Some analyst has even said they should get out of the TV industry altogether. ^^;

Lets not even talk about Sony-Ericsson :/

Ju5399d ago (Edited 5399d ago )

I run a DS3 with a blue tooth dongle vie MotionJoy in 360 emu mode (and L1/L2,R1/R2 swap because that is how I like it), retards (Win7/64).

Go, install BC2 and tell me you can plug and play with the 360 controller. I was in the BF3 beta. That supports the right buttons and all, but the axis need to be calibrated. So much it was basically unplayable. Smart ass.

Substance1015398d ago (Edited 5398d ago )

@Ju

The more important question is why were you trying to play an FPS game like BF3 with a controller? You would get owned online atleast.

Its ment for mouse/keyboard. Personally i know BC2 doesnt support controller(not in the BF3 beta so cant talk about it), but you make it look as if its the case with every game out there, which clearly is not the case.

The example you are throwing is for a game thats ment to be played with Mouse / KB then generalising it upon all PC games which is not true at all, 95% of games released this gen work without issue with controller its simple plug and play just like console. Which makes your initial comment look retarded because you make it look like every game out there has issues.

It would be like getting PS move to work on a game that was ment to be played with a DS3(if there was some way to get that to happen), and then complaining if it didnt work well.

@tru_blu

Check out Crysis from 2006 the gap was already big back then.

Tru_Blu5398d ago (Edited 5398d ago )

@reynod

Look at BF3 on PC. THAT is why it's time for new consoles!!

When the gap is getting that big, it's time for some new hardware.

Bonobo123455398d ago

So much fanboy and misinformation in here it hurts.

one thing that annoys me

"The more important question is why were you trying to play an FPS game like BF3 with a controller? You would get owned online at least"

A lot of people prefer Controller to a KB/M, It has nothing to do with precision and accuracy, It has to do with immersion and comfort.
You can sit in way more comfortable positions with a controller, with KB/M you are restricted because you have 2 peripherals and the mouse needs a smooth surface to operate on. With a controller you can lie on your back, on your side heck you can sit upside down and still be in full control.

Ju5398d ago (Edited 5398d ago )

First, I just cannot play with Mouse/KB. Tried a couple of time. I just have troubles with that - and I game since 85. Never got into that and never will.

Second, if games are made for 360/PS3 which support the controller, how hard can it be to support that on the PC. Crysis works just fine with the controller - no adjustment needed.

And last, what pisses me off is, that this is just not consistent. Some games work some don't. What's worse, most games run on consoles, too, yet the devs are to "proud" (?) to support the controller on the PC.

I go for the convenience and not for the graphics only. A PC is not for me. I wait for the next gen consoles; and until then, I'll squeeze my PS3.

BTW: What does that even mean "it was meant to be played with KB/Mouse". Yeah, so much, they sell that for consoles. "Meant to be". LOL

Substance1015398d ago (Edited 5398d ago )

@Ju

Like i mentioned 95% of the games run on the controller. You made it look like every game has issues, please stop generalising as if all games have issues with the controller that simply is not true.

PS3 supports Mouse and keyboard since launch day, why dont devs support all games with Keyboard mouse too? So should we start calling devs "proud" for not supporting kb mouse on PS3? the same games are also released on PC with mouse kb support. So why is there no Mouse kb support for PS3? i guess anyone using a PC and PS3 then should be disappointed as well since there is no consistency?(as per you). If you looked at it from that perspective i would say PC development is doing the best job of supporting multiple controllers among all platforms.

If its such a issue no ones stopping you from playing on the consoles, but to go about making it look as if every game has issues with PC with controller is misleading people at best.

The reason why i mentioned its ment to be played mouse kb on PC because everyone will be playing BF3 that way. You wont be getting aim assist on PC to even consider playing against mouse kb users with a control pad. Hell even if you did get that support u would still be at a severe disadvantage.

Ju5398d ago (Edited 5398d ago )

95% is simply wrong. Out of the games in my library pretty much none runs with the controller (out of the box), the exception is Crysis. So, I would say, 95% strongly depends on what you play. For me, its rather 5%.

And I don't really care. I want 100% - which is certainly possible (see console market). I am sorry, maybe I am spoiled. But that is the beauty of console gaming. No playing around with a damn config. Obviously, millions of people agree, because they buy those damn things every generation.

And, BTW, RTS with mouse is fine, for what it makes sense. I give you that.

KB/Mouse on PS3. There is consistency. It is not supported. Period. (Exception/Experiment is UT3).

Well, see, and because of what you say, PC is not for me. Simple. You can argue superior graphics all day long. Won't change a thing.

Would I want upgraded graphics? Sure, but either the PC adopts to console gamers, or someone release a new console which can match that. Otherwise, I keep what I have - and will enjoy BF3 on the PS3.

Substance1015398d ago (Edited 5398d ago )

Lol dude, no ones trying to convince you to get on board PC gaming. You want to stay on console stay there :)

But please stop spreading misinformation, heres a quick peak at some of the games released this year and they do support controller:

Alice madness returns
Assassins creed Brotherhood
Crysis 2
Dead space 2
Dirt 3
Dungeon Siege 3
Driver
Fear 3
Homefront
Limbo
MLB 2k11
Need for speed shift 2
Portal 2
Super Meatboy
Test drive unlimited 2
Witcher 2

Thats just of the top of my head, think that list pretty much covers any good game released in 2011. Just because you are playing games from on your gramas PC doesnt mean everyone does the same, sure PC games didnt have good controller support last gen however thats a thing of the past.

Funny you deny Keybaord mouse is supported on PS3, yet at any moment when the question does arise PS3 fans are first to claim how PS3 has keyboard mouse support(pretty inconsistent i must say), unfortunately no one can do anything about it either atleast on PC we can play around with config files and get supported games to run, call it having the freedom to do stuff.

Every platform has its positives, while PC may have more tweakability then console which you do not like it also offers a ton of mods. Deny it as you may, I guess us PC gamers are just spoiled at gettin superior version of every game, along with free mods to make old games look like HD remakes for free ;-)

Hayabusa 1175398d ago

WOW! I'm a console gamer and I can't believe some of you guys are btching about plugging in a fcking controller into a USB port. SERIOUSLY?!

"You still need to configure the controller" WTF? I remember back in the day you could configure every button on the controller in the options menu. Not anymore. I'd love to have that feature back in a console game. I feel ashamed calling some of you guys "console gamers".

On the plus side, is it just me or are there alot more PC gamers around these days arguing the merits of PC over console? Glad to have you guys back, it's been a while! Where have you all been?

(I mean that as complement by the way, after all the nasty rumours that PC gaming will die...not a chance!)

reynod5398d ago (Edited 5398d ago )

Its only Ju who is crying/trolling over insignificant matters like Substance already mentioned most games do support controllers on PC. The ones that dont are mostly FPS games which PC gamers prefer to play with Mouse and KB anyways. Most console gamers are far more mature to be trolling over such stuff, this is just a Ju issue lol

You can still configure every button on the PC, specially if you installed motionjoy for the DS3 you can configure every key wether the game supports it or not. People like Ju would throw a tantrum over this because they dont like to be able to configure stuff, they would rather play how the dev tells them to, cause according to them the dev knows their gaming preferences better then they themselves.

PC gamers have been around, its just that i think their activity on sites like N4G has been low since its a console dominated site, you would find sites like tomshardware, hardocp to be more PC centric. Though yea recently there have been many PC gamers showing up here.

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PimpHandHappy5399d ago

i agree but only in that all the improvements they have done with the PS3 and PSN will be implemented into the PS4... I think we will see something in 2013 but we will not see a PS4 till 2015 at the earliest..

again i cant prove this because only time will tell

JMO

Hayabusa 1175398d ago

Why the hell would they announce it in 2013 and not release it for 2 years?

jwatt5399d ago

I don't think we will see an actual release until the PS3 price is 150 dollars. I mean the PS3 is still pretty expensive!

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gamingdroid5399d ago

Well, let's hope Nintendo will pick up the slack and release a worthy next generation console.

I'm ready for a new generation and even contemplated going back to PC full on. I never thought I would consider going back... but the gap is getting obvious.

CBaoth5399d ago

Take mediocre games like AvP or Homefront which are subHD on consoles and play them in pristine DX11 on PC. You'll never play a multiplat on anything else but PC again. Hell you can pretty much play anything with a controller if you dislike K/M.

I realized as soon as I built a rig that consoles' true worth are measured by their exclusives. I've neither played my 360 nor the Wii at all in 2011. Sure I'll get Gears3 and Halo but that's it. And Zelda on the Wii. Sony has at least kept me entertained. And no fanboys, I don't like every exclusive that comes down the pipeline just because it comes from Sony.

For some of us who appreciate what both sides have to offer, it's hard not to be disheartened by the perceived foot dragging of the console manufacturers. I got sick of waiting for Sony to make their money back, for Nintendo introducing last gen tech so it could focus on popularizing motion control, and Greenberg pointing his finger @ Sony yelling "See I told you the 360 would last as long as the PS3". Good job Aaron, you transitioned the 360 into a casual console, now give us the nXbox 1080 dammit. We wont see a new console from MS or Sony till 2013. That'll be 8 and 7 years respectively. Way too long.

Hopefully WiiU will have a couple gigs of system RAM and another one on the GPU if they learned anything from E3.

SweatyFlorida5399d ago (Edited 5399d ago )

No duh, but that's not what their saying. "Entering next gen" and "developing it" are totally different so I don't know how you got that thought.

I can see their point though, why rush when things are running so smooth with the PS3 and the hype of the Vita? and the more time they hold out on Ps4, the more they can put into the system and make it a truly "next-gen" experience. Those who are complaining about current consoles holding back gaming are those comparing to PC. Yet every "next gen" PC game is still coming out on consoles, and the difference is not so huge a gap to even cry about it. If you can still enjoy the same games, what's the problem?

Lazy_Sunday5399d ago

If Microsoft's console ends up coming out first I will be soooo pissed.

gamingdroid5399d ago

at Sony for not releasing one sooner?

Lazy_Sunday5399d ago (Edited 5399d ago )

I wouldn't care if the 360 had a better CPU, Blu-Ray and free online.
It's just my opinion, but the first console released tends to be the winner, and if Microsoft doesn't beat Sony to the punch, then Microsoft will actually have to release something decent with an edge.

I mean, come on, what are the chances of them pulling a Vista again?

I don't understand the disagrees, because it's clearly a win-win scenario. People just always think if someone says something against MS or Sony, it has to be trolling.

Ju5399d ago

It's a dangerous game for Sony.

People will flock to a new console who ever releases the next first (WiiU? Not so sure...Nintendo needs to do some convincing), but at the same time, a PS3 for $199 (which is very likely) might catch that momentum if for example a new XBox releases next year.

Price will play a factor. At least so much, it might buy Sony 1 or 2 years. And use those 1-2 years to top what the competition is doing.

I for one want the top end console for the next generation. I'd rather wait a little longer and get state of the art tech then.

lil Titan5399d ago

Some of the biggest games are coming out in September and October that will have you playing for quite some time, why do i need to hear about PS4 when PS3 still has a lot of life in it? when the competition release there console i expect 7 to 8 months or a year after Sony will release PS4 end of story.

BitbyDeath5399d ago

I don't think the PS4 will take very long to make.
Most of the items i'm expecting to be reused and obviously upgraded.

Cell
Blu-ray
Ram
Video
Audio

Less R&D will be req'd since they're already working in the PS3, making for a much cheaper machine, also Vita is said to be much the same as the PS3 development wise so i'd expect the same for the PS4.

Port over Home, & the XMB, provide both with a lot more memory and revamp.

New console should be easily possible to have in consumers hands by the end of next year as more time would likely be spent on Software as opposed this gen which req'd the creation of Hardware.

subtenko5399d ago

As you can see.... Sony is taking more time with the console than Nintendo does...

The nintendo wii release soon after the ps3 did. The ps3 was built with more features and is more powerful that the wii. Now Nintendo made the WiiU...

This is all becoming uneven for console releases at this rate.

Agree or Disagree if you Agree

AKA5399d ago

i want it by next year asap!!!!

let the late buys buy it when it get cheap but i need better tech and no i will not spend over $1000 on a new pc and get headech trying to install everything and set up every silly nerdy detail....

pls pc does not have the ips i enjoy more or the devs i care do not make pc games soo i dont mind to much...

and yes pc this years is on top but is funny how the rat were hiding when they were not lol...

KILLZONE 4 will be mindblowing...

showtimefolks5399d ago

about this.

let me put it like this:

sony have said that people who are waiting for ps4 will be waiting for a long long time(jack tretton) Ps3 stills sells for 249 its long way from $99 bucks so another 2-3 years out of ps3 atleast

expect a ps3 announcement at TGS 2013 since its sony home turn japan and a release in 2014 but most like announcement in 2014 and release in 2015

AKA5398d ago (Edited 5398d ago )

understand this i have not seen new games anounced for the ps3 and that means soemthing PS4

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Gazondaily5399d ago

PLUS there are so many games coming out!

xtremexx5399d ago

lol, calm down, its not like they are releasing it this year lol

Gazondaily5399d ago (Edited 5399d ago )

How do you know?!! Maybe they are releasing it this year! Maybe its already released!! *Puts tin foil hat on*

I think you guys need to understand the tone of my posts. Imagine me chilling with a blunt in my mouth, leaning back and saying things, you know, just in a chilled out way.

E.g " Yo ess-aay......man...I gots 2 many games to play holmes....need 2 chill on dis PS4 shit knowutimsayin mayne? Yeeeeeee......

*Now imagine Peter Griffith from Family Guy in that episode sliding off his couch*

That is how I am all the time....just chilling...smooth like cocoa butter on a JLo's ass...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

cstyle5399d ago

Basically they are saying that they want to recoup more of the loss that they took with the ps3. That would be a smart thing to do.

Godmars2905399d ago

Hopefully once the PSV is out and they build on what it does right.

theonlylolking5399d ago

They have to start planning for a PS4 not long after the PS3 is finished. You got to get your patents, hardware, software, etc... all planned out.

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted37d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8537d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele36d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk36d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay36d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10137d ago (Edited 37d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit36d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg36d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10136d ago (Edited 36d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14936d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_50d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle49d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit49d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog50d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog50d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad50d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_50d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage50d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda49d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong76d ago

looks god awful on the base systems