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Microsoft to push for more Kinect titles

Computer giant Microsoft has revealed it's plans to release a second wave of games on the run-up to Christmas. During the press-talk, the marketing manager for Xbox stated that there would be the release of far more exclusive games to the XBLA Kinect.

Also, the article suggests that a majority of these shall be on the Indie category, but as of yet is unwilling to reveal any more details on titles to be released just yet.

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darthv725404d ago

I wish other companies had as much commitment to their accessories as MS seems to be showing (cough...Sega).

Bigpappy5404d ago (Edited 5404d ago )

@darthv72: Too bad there are not more people on this site with a brain. Sometime I don't bother to post because the site is over run by a bunch of kids, who still do not get that Sony and M$ are only in this for the $.

Anyway, this is what M$ needs to do. Most of the stuff for Kinect, like Child of Eden, would do much better if they were downloadable and had a lower price point. Kinect game don't need to be large budget game at this point, people are still figuring out how to properly implement the device. This is new to everyone, and developer don't need to make big budget games with it, until they have mastered how best to implement Kinect in said game. M$ needs to support Kinect if they want to sell large amounts of 360's this holiday season. People in here talking down this move by M$ need to watch those sales numbers this holiday season.

Casuals like the idea of XBL, but as a shopping center, where they can buy games that interest them. This would make them use XBL more, as they would want to see what's new every month.

Okay! Let the tolling commence. I am done for now.

Bereaver5404d ago

You two have got to be kidding me.

Showing love to an accessory is great! But abondoning your fans to try and pull in money from the casual market?

As of now, there still aren't any truly hardcore ways to implement into games that brought Xbox360 to what it is today.

I just can't believe people are dying to love it and blaming others for not? With the simple fact again, most people who made the 360 what it is today can't get any use with it.

Yes, I have kinect. Yes, I have a reason. My girlfriend is a dance teacher and it's fun to play the dancing games with her.

But what about FPS lovers? The only thing I saw that was worth anything is the demo where you could pull your gun apart. But how does that really help? or put you in the game? It doesn't.

Until MS can truly get rid of that lag, it's just not possible to do anything for the vast majority of the 360.

Now, in my opinion, I don't think that it's possible to simply update Kinect with firmware to make the response time quicker. BUT, it might be possible. MS said they could do it, so I really hope they can.

Here's for good hope! ~cheers~

As for the comment about people not having brains. Can't you see that you're the minority in this arguement?

TyrionL5403d ago

@ Bereaver
I'm not sure what lag you’re talking about. I find Kinect to be very responsive. I also really don't see them making a FPS control scheme for Kinect. I just don’t think it would be worth it, but I do see them making games from the ground up for it. What’s the problem with completely new gaming experiences?

I also think the way they are implementing it in some of the upcoming core titles is great. I do agree with the pulling the gun apart thing, it might be cool a few times, but I don’t see it being used that much. The way they are using it for Mass Effect 3 is totally worth it to me, I think using your voice to command your squad defiantly streamlines the game play therefore improving it. I know that people scream “but you can do that with a $10 headset”, and, “why would I spend $150 on voice commands”, but I say if it’s so easy to use the headset why don’t they, and I already have Kinect so the more uses I have for it the better.

I just don’t understand why one side will praise Sony all day long for all the options they give, yet the same people bash MS any time they come up with new options. I did spend $150 on Kinect, and I welcome as many ways to use it as possible.

Boletarian5404d ago

Read the article. The guy is saying that the their will be full Kinect integration with their next wave of XBLA titles. One title a month.

Unlike what some people say, MS is not forcing the games to be exclusive to Kinect, but to have Kinect support.

gamingdroid5404d ago

I like Kinect support whenever it makes sense. The dash integration and Fruit Ninja will be the bomb. Looking forward to core games with Kinect experience, like Forza 4, ME3 and Ghost Recon as well.

Gunslinger also looks interesting and then there's a ton of Kinect exclusive games like the Japanese games, Ryse and Fable.

There are tons of support for Kinect, as an add-on or exclusive.

Biggest5404d ago

Okay. I'm lost. Boletarian says that it's GOOD that Kinect is being supported as a secondary/optional control system. The people agreeing with him are the same people that love to harp on other companies having secondary/optional control schemes as if it were a detractor. Which is good? Games built from the ground up, games with added functionality, a combination of both, or none of the above?

Cmpunk5404d ago

i guess sony is the only hardcore console left! let's just see how long they will stay that way

fluffydelusions5404d ago

I'm not opposed to kinect but some games shouldn't use it. Games like dance central, fruit ninja, and child of Eden, are perfect for kinect.

jdfoster005404d ago (Edited 5404d ago )

More? trololololol =/ where are the harcore titles? That has an KINECT OPTION* And not just kinect only... (Like not hindering the controller based experience)

gamingdroid5404d ago

You mean like Forza 4, Ghost Recon and Mass Effect 3?

air15404d ago

He just mad sony's add on was a dud, or thud?! Lol

WhiteLightning5404d ago

Least Sony didn't spend 500 million of adverstising...

Hey you went there....lol

WetN00dle695404d ago

I think he meant games like Rise from Nightmare and the Crytechs title. How i wish i were able to play those two titles with my controller...............

Mechanic455404d ago

They did state that Kinect had not been "seen as to use it's full potential". However, on several occasions with a few friend's consoles, I've found the Kinect to be very glitchy. I wonder even with an effort like this, will Microsoft be purely pouring money into a bottomless pit. Surely their first concern should be making the censor more pin-pointed rather than going out on such a limb as budgetgamer suggests.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio22d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing22d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9222d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit22d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing22d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9221d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay23d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn224d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn223d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown24d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay23d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay23d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac23d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger24d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300024d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde24d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde23d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7525d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_23d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.