@ElementX

Yes loyalty to a system is stupid, I dont own a 360 mainly because I own a PC as well as a PS3 and the 360 dosent have the range of exclusives that appeal to me like the PS3's and PC's. My nephew always brings his 360 when he visits, we do a swap and I play Halo to death, I own a original Xbox because of halo 1 & 2 and also because of Riddick.

I would always consider getting an Xbox it just this gen I havent had the need to. As for the wii I just dont have any interest at all in getting one.

Edit: Also I dont like the word fanboy lets call them by their real names, children

So would you agree that those who choose to play others are equally as much a gamer as those who choose to play only 1?

The whole loyalty thing is the basis for the fanboy wars to begin with. Each to their own. I can respect a person if they play one system so long as they can respect my choice to play 10 systems (past and present).

Neither one of us are any more of a gamer than the next. The perception of 'gamer' or 'core' has certainly changed over time. Not entirely for the better I might add.

For these things are by choice, no sense in degrading someone if they dont play at the same level as the next guy. Bottom line is....we all like to game no matter the platform.

@ElementX
having a mixed bag is actually a good thing, something for everyone.

i'm not into GT5 or LBP, but i love games like Heavy Rain, inFAMOUS, Uncharted...

@InTheLab

Couldn't agree more, bubbles for you

I went from 3 bubbles to 4 then to 5...trolls wanted to start arguments on my comments, me being the one not to take crap argues with them and I go back to 3 bubbles and I did the same not learning from my mistake and I'm down to 2.....really crap system to be honest

Apparently to the mods you can't defend yourself you have to "rely" on the system. I've tried bubbling down people who deserve it and nothing....to be honest it's usualy the people who have like 5-7 bubbles.

<sigh> I miss my bubbles, I like commenting

Maybe some people don't ant both consoles. Did you ever think about that Element? Or is this natural to throw out comments like that?

@darkride66 I'm the same, I'm more critical towards Microsoft because of what they've turned into, I'm not going to be blind and take all this Kinect crap. Sony has treted me as a core gamer with exclusives, support and more games this year and for that I think they deserve to be cut a little slack. If it was the othet way round I would be the same with Sony

I'll say this, the reason why I chose a PS3 over a 360 in 2006 was because I had trust in the Sony brand thanks to the two previous generations. Only one of my friends had the original XBox and outside of Halo, the thing was barely touched by him. Then MS dropped it like a bad habit and moved on while Sony continued to support PS2.

I was shell shocked by the PS3's initial price tag for sure, but I knew that it would be worth it in the long run. I opted against getting a 360 in 2005 and actually bought my first PSP and I have gotten many enjoyable experiences out of it.

I really just had no desire to pay 50 bucks for Live. I'm not a big online player, but I didn't want to get screwed out of the other aspects of the service. Granted, things like Netflix and what not were not offered on Live at that point, but considering my meager online play, I can only imagine how pissed I'd be if I was basically paying 60 bucks a year right now for the right to watch my Netflix account.

While Sony may not offer Halo and Gears of War, it certainly offers much more variety. Sony is just more willing to take chances. Sometimes it works (Heavy Rain) sometimes it doesn't (Lair) sometimes its a great experience but since it isn't a big name it doesn't sell (Folklore), but they're willing to stick their neck out there.

MS plays it safe, they have their Holy Trinity of Halo, Gears and Forza, and that's fine. Look at the music industry. Drake, Wayne, Gaga, they know what works and they stick with it. Nothing wrong with that. I'd just rather have more variety gamewise.

I tried a 360 and got burned bc of faulty disc drive. This was bf m$ did the free repairs and I lost 400 $ bc of it. M$ did do free repairs, but only after I traded my broken 360 at gamestop while getting a lecture about how much better it was than the ps3. Fyi I still own the same ps3 4 years later and have never had a problem. I am brand loyal now bc I know sony will put out a qualtiy product, m$ on the other hand had really cheap components and tried to pass their problem onto consumers. That was a dick mo e and bc of that I will not buy m$ products. I don't care if I miss out on a few games bc I still feel anger about the whole situation. That's being a smart consumer and that is why a lot of people don't like m$.

@ Darkride

You're lucky you even have one. Your trash site/posts contribute to the main problem of this otherwise excellent site.

Difference is theres hardly any reason to get a 360.

People who don't ahve a 360 aren't missing much at all, though people who don't have a PS3 are missing out on a hell of a lot more

It's interesting, the PS3 definitely has more exclusives than the 360, and that is one thing that I think Sony does far better than Microsoft.

On the other hand, from a personal perspective it somehow doesn't amount to much in the real world for me.

Most of the games I like are multiplatform games like Red Dead Redemption, Oblivion, Castlevania, Dead Space, Assassin's Creed, etc.

And when it comes to the exclusives I actually like enough to buy, it just turns out that there are more or less the same amount on the 360 and PS3.

I really love some PS3 exclusives like Uncharted 2 and God of War 3, and that is enough for me to own the console, but a lot of PS3 exclusives just don't appeal that much to me.

Objectively I think it is great that Sony offers so many exclusives, but subjectively the reality is that many of those exclusives simply don't grab me.

On the PS3 I enjoy franchises like Uncharted, GOW, Killzone, and inFamous; while on the 360 I enjoy franchises like Gears of War, Halo, Fable, and Alan Wake. Everything else I really care about is multiplatform, and I tend to get those games on the PC.

My point is, it really comes down to personal opinion and taste. Some people prefer the PC, some the 360, some the PS3, some the Wii, and some will prefer to own multiple systems. None of those preferences is wrong.

@NewMonday
That's the beauty of it and why it works.

For me, I skipped GranTurismo5 and ModNation Racers but snagged up Motorstorm Apocalypse & WipEout HD. 4 exclusive racers, all VASTLY different, and I bought the two that I had an itch for at the time. No obligation to buy them all, don't have to justify my purchase(s) with planetxbox360.com style "top 5 reasons" lists or pre-order/beta stats, lol. Just in and out. Next.

im not into ANY current ps3 games anymore, theyve pretty much ruined them all. R:FOM amazin, Socom confronatition after the patches was decent, KZ2 pretty cool...... now all three games are COD clones with different character skins. MAG was boring, LBP boring, R&C too easy but enjoyable on ps2 days.

If you are into shooters, no point in PS3 exclusives since Gears and Halo are the best in shooters. I love my PS3 for 3rd party games and trophies. Hopefully Starhawk doesnt suck but who knows.

There's an irony in how you can find minutae in all these current exclusives to mull over, yet you still tow the company line with Halo & Gears being "teh best" despite their own flaws.

Waiting for a new Halo game every 2 years with low 80 averages like Halo Wars and ODST, or a remake of a game I played 10 years ago isn't as fun to me as playing arguably better games in the meantime. Definitely not as pointless as nostalgia.

Nobody need both systems. Between my PS3 and my gaming PC there simply isn't enough time in the day to play all the games I have...and I spend a lot of time playing games.

Plus owning two consoles is just pointlessly redundant like owning a Droid and an iPhone. The experience between the two isn't that far apart and I'm pretty sure that you can live just fine without playing both Gears of War and Uncharted.

i actually bought xbox 360 twice (2nd one is second hand) and they both rrod and don't feel like another one.

Ya I don't get all the disagrees. I only own a PC and PS3 mainly because I'm on a budget. I don't freak out and go buy every PS3 exclusive either. Some games appeal to me some don't. GT5 for instance.. I'm not a big fan of racing games and didn't buy that so guess I'm some kind of troll also.

No because the exclusives that are put out on the 360 are created by talentless studios are not really worth any note. The ones that did have gone multiplatform and we come full circle to the 360s main problem. It doesn't have any games.

I'm getting on Uncharted 3 and Gears 3 this year... 3rd personing out of my mind! :D

Elementx

So you think all sony exclusives aren't that interesting so it is a better idea to drop a couple hundred dollars on a system so you don't have to wait a couple of months to play a downloadable game?

How is anyone suppose to take you seriously?

I just can't get into most of those games from Sony. There are a few that I enjoy and I wish I could get into more of them. I do need to pick up a PS3 again though, because that's the only way I'll be able to play Folklore.

Thank you for being a non-ignorant console owner. Dead says to "just buy one" How about no? I'll buy the games I want to, whether it's pc, ps3 or on xbox. I'll buy r3 because I love resistance, but I'm not going to buy uncharted because I don't like it. I'll get forza on xbox because I like it more than GT. I'll play what I please and sorry to say it guys, but not everyone thinks all of the ps3 games are the best.

@frelyler

Just a question here!

If you have problems with your PS3 (I know poeple who did!)... does that mean that you will stop gaming?

True gamers:

- play what they like and do NOT bash others for liking something they don't!
- don't close themselves up to the belief that one system is superior to another. It just simply means you now have limited yourself to enjoy only some of the great games out there irregardless of the system.

That would mean a very small minority are actual gamers....

@SuicideShaun:

Play what you like! Well said!!!

I brought an Xbox Elite in 2008 and really didn't enjoy any of the exclusives except Ace Combat 6 and only played it once or twice a month which didn't encourage me to pay for gold either.

@logicwins You know what he means.

"Somethings about your comments always piss me off."

^^^ I've always felt this way about logic's comments, but now I know what pisses me off about them.

Logicwins you always attack people who don't word their comments precisely the way you would like them to. Do people really have to type "in my opinion" "I believe" "I think" etc etc etc in every single one of their comments in order for you to not have a "Big Problem" with it or in order for you to not attack them?

Come on man use some logic ;)

The difference is, if you have a PS3 and a gaming rig, you're not missing out on much at all if you don't own a 360. On the flip side, if you only own a 360 you're missing out on a tonne of quality games, many of them setting the bar for their genre according to many gaming outlets.

Fair enough if you don't have the money and are content with your 360, but I can't take anyone seriously at all when they say nothing interests them on the PS3. If that was really true then you don't like gaming fullstop.

Who is LEGITIMATELY not interested in the exclusives of on console? Someone who can say that with a straight face is a fanboy, NOT a gamer.

YOU.

@thugbob- Theres a difference between attacking someone and challenging their opinion.

If you want to see an example of "attacking", look at Hicken's comment. He just called me a fanboy and a non gamer with nothing to back it up. Also, he fails to see the possibility that some people don't care about Halo, Gears, MGS4, GOW3 etc.

That my friend is a personal attack.

Did I call MrDead a fanboy? Nope

Did I say he wasn't a gamer? Nah

Did I insult him in anyway...nope.

Hicken just did all three...but his comment isn't reprimanded?

"Come on man use some logic"

Would u say its "logical" that a wall of text on a gaming news website pisses you off?

@hicken
"Someone who can say that with a straight face is a fanboy, NOT a gamer"

You got it backwards dude...its called preference. Microsoft games have a different "style" to their games i prefer over sonys. I'm not denying that the ps3 and its games are amazing but they both are so different in both console features and exclusives thats its not far fetched to prefer one over the other. Dictating what consoles are for true gamers or not is the ultimate form or fanboyism (which you are displaying now). You gamers who discourage xbox or wii or whatever console someone prefers are the sole reason this generation sucks.

If you played them and just didn't like them, that's fine. That's totally understandable, because that's your opinion.

But to "not be interested" is ignorant, especially when you claim to be a "true gamer." As I said, for all I get called a PS3 fanboy, I still want to play Gears, I still enjoyed Halo (Reach, at least), I still love Lost Odyssey, I still own a copy of Fable II. I STILL want a 360 for the games I can't play on PS3.

There's no such thing as "not being interested" in games I haven't played, unless it's a genre I don't like, or something like that.

I'm not interested in Resident Evil, Silent Hill and the like, because I'm not fond of horror games(they freak me out). Even so, Dead Island looks almost interesting enough to play. By and large, though, I avoid that GENRE because those games don't interest me.

If you like FPS titles, you should WANT to play the Killzone and Resistance franchises, just as much as you should WANT to play Halo. Like TPS? You should WANT to play both Gears AND Uncharted. Like racing? You should WANT to play GT AND Forza. Once you've played them, THEN you're entitled to say you don't like one, or that further entries "don't interest" you. Until that point, though, you're just being a fanboy.

So I'll call it how I see it: FANYBOY. YOU.

Once again, your logic fails.

"So I'll call it how I see it: FANYBOY. YOU."

... a fanboy of what exactly? O.o

Simply liking a genre doesn't mean you'd be interested in every single game of the genre. I like FPS games, doesn't mean I'm interested in all of them because even each genre is quite diverse.
There's a world of difference between Quake and ARMA, and despite never playing an ARMA game, I know it doesn't interest me just by looking at it.

If you're interested in a lot of games, good for you, it's nice to have varied tastes, but don't assume that everyone thinks just like you and start labeling anyone with a different opinion as a 'fanboy'.

I can admit that the exclusives of each platform have some great games (similar to how ARMA is a great game with a loyal fanbase), but also, at the same time, I can also say that most of those games don't interest me.
... does that mean I'm not a 'true gamer'?

Just enjoy whatever you like but respect the opinions and choices of others instead of demeaning them by saying they aren't 'true gamers' or 'fanboys' if they don't buy a console you like or a game you like.

And here's another PC gamer who thinks that PC gaming is better, the only thing that's different is graphics for the multplatform games and more memory.(eg. Crysis 2, BF3, exept the amount of players and small maps) so, don't come here and say that a true gamer is someone who wastes 2000 on a stupid card when great games are only $299 dollars away if you had a console, PC is fine, but I prefer the PS3 (360 for Halo Reach) and it's going to stay that way.

Gears 1, L4D, Fable are not exclusives.

@Jay520 -

Oh for god's sake drop the L4D series argument. You seem to forget that those with only a PS3 CAN PLAY L4D on the PC!!

Halo is worth it. Absolutely. The same with Gears of War. Fable has been going downhill and the latest on-rails stuff...that's not gonna cut it. Then there's Forza, also worth getting...the road of exclusives ends there.

I don't have a 360 and Im hardly missing anything that I cannot get for the ps3. Its quite funny how you try your hardest to show your obvious 360-centric biased while horribly attempting to appear as a neutral gamer.

"ps3 has some other games that are great but I wouldn't call them incredible" Yet you label fable 3 as "incredible"? Get real.

..."PlayStation is dominating on every level"....

...Really???

PlayStation are soon heading into a new generation in the not to distant future. They currently have the worst customer satisfaction they've ever sustained as a company. The company is heading for a huge crash while at the same time they'll need to be planning how they are going to try and win back that favour and the build up to their new releases.

Yes financially they're winning but they're going to have to ride out this complete public corporate disaster. No one has faith in the company or the product anymore. They've damaged their public image so much this generation. Greed can kill anyone.

Hulst is a disaster......