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Online Pass: A few quick arguments

Sony announced a PSN Network pass program, EA has been doing the online pass thing for a while now on its games, along with a growing number of publishers. We ask ourselves, Is this really a big deal? You buy a game new, and you get full access to your game. Are the publishers trying to kill the pre-owned games sales?

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allyc4t5402d ago

You say 'So this leads to the answer, they are attempting to curb pre-owned game sales, but in turn they are actually hurting the consumers who support them.'

They are curbing pre-owned game sales. That's true. But they aren't hurting the consumers who support them. Because the consumers who support them buy NEW games.

xX-StolenSoul-Xx5402d ago

Thats basically the plan, Kill pre-owned sales. Personally i had no problem with Online passes till i bought my 360 Last week. See on Ps3 i can use my online passes on up to 5 ps3, awesome i have 3 of them and all of them get to play online.
Now.. i plan on buying the new Xbox slim in the fall and i would like both of my consoles to be able to play online without buying another online pass... Well no way to do that on xbox and it's really making me hate these passes and i've use to support these things.

dotwithshoes5402d ago

Which is why its hurting the consumer.

Majors5401d ago (Edited 5401d ago )

I totally agree with the pass system. HOWEVER I think a new pass code SHOULD be supplied with all preowned purchases.
Gamestop / gamestation etc etc should have to supply this code to the customer within the price of the game, saying they make 300% proffit per game sold I dont think £7 / $8 will hurt them much and they will contributing back into the industry. Everyone happy..

EmperorDalek5401d ago

Make games that are worth buying new. And I don't mean give us a good multiplayer with 6 maps on launch day with a bad single-player (BF:BC2), I mean give us games with A LOT of content.

Games like Skyrim, Uncharted 3, Gears 3, MW3 and a few more will all be worth getting new because they have lots of content. It's either that or sell the game for less.

But that doesn't mean you should force us to buy them new, if the game is good enough then people will buy DLC.

slaton245401d ago

dude MW3 will not have no more content than its past versions have had..also i agree with what u r sayin but it wont happen since they can just charge for DLC so they make a crappy game 1st that way when DLC comes out they make more money

vickers5005401d ago

"dude MW3 will not have no more content than its past versions"

Say what you will about the extremely terrible Call of Duty series, but one thing it at least has going for it is that each installment is always packed full of content.

It ships with at minimum like 15+ maps, has a lot of modes and includes a lot of weapons and attachments. The quality of those things are debatable, but one thing is for sure, is that CoD games do come with a lot of content (as that is the least they can do for not making improvements to the gameplay/network).

slaton245401d ago

@vickers

dude they have the same game modes most of the same guns perks and killstreaks and most come with about 10-14 maps...the content slightly changes. Every game I still see old game modes and stuff and when i do see new its not much at all now BFBC2 has amazing stuff like destruction...and oh yeah dedicated servers..until CoD gets dedicated servers it will always be crappy...SP is great though...and guess what i may be hatin on it but i had WaW and i have MW1 MW2 and B.ops so i do play and no what they are changing

EmperorDalek5400d ago

MW3 will have a Campaign, Survival, Spec Ops and Multiplayer. If that isn't enough content then I don't know what is.

If you think the destructible environments in BC2 are good, then you should see Red Faction: Guerilla.

Are we talking about console or PC? Because it doesn't have dedicated servers on console, and as for PC, MW2 is the only one without them.

hazelamy5401d ago

how about they remember tha benefits of the preowned market before they try to destroy it.

it's folly of the highest order that ea are the ones with the biggest hard on for destroying the preowned market when they probably benefit from it the most.
how many people trade in their old copies of fifa or madden or any other of their annual identikit sports games to get the newest version.

a second person playing online with the game and the original owner buying and playing the new version, is infinitely preferable to the same person continuing to play it and not buying a new copy i'd have thought.

but no, they have short term, short sighted thinking motivated by insatiable greed.

slaton245401d ago

i dont no about ebay or amazon but i do no at game stores when u trade in and someone buys used the store keeps store profit and the developers get none which is why you are now starting to see online passes

dotwithshoes5400d ago

And I have asked this question so many times and no one can ever give a good answer.. why should the developer profit TWICE from one copy of a game?

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted21d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8521d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele20d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk20d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay20d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10121d ago (Edited 21d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit20d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg20d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10120d ago (Edited 20d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14920d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_34d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle33d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit33d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog34d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog34d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad34d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_34d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage34d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda33d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong60d ago

looks god awful on the base systems