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Format war fanboys shut down AVS Forum

CNET News reports on November 7, 2007:

Following the $99 HD DVD player sale at Wal-Mart and Best Buy (among others,) rampant flame wars between Blu-ray and HD DVD fanboys turned nasty into personal attacks and physical threats in the AVS forum - probably the largest online forum for audio/visual discussion. Which led AVS moderators to completely shut down the HD DVD and Blu-ray forums until the weekend.

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power of Green 6767d ago (Edited 6767d ago )

That sh*t is crazy HD-DVD can't have good news withhout rabid flamers bashing, Blu-ray news on the other hand is largly ignored by non BD supporters.

EDIT: http://n4g.com/industrynews...

For the most part the news post has to envolve HD-DVD for people to be intrested in Bur-ray threads.

Feel free to dissagree it doesn't change anything.

Bathyj6767d ago

Did you even read it you idiot?

It goes both ways, they get accused by both side and try to explain how people always feel hurt only from their point of view and then you come straight out and whine how HDDVD gets it bad, who you only give a crap about anyway because BR is Sony.

You're exactly the kind of ignorant fanboy they're talking about and why they shut down for.

It wont surprise me at all if N4G is not far behind. Someone remind why I still come here.

shelbygt336767d ago

avsforum.com just proved that it's above the flame baiters and format nerds. It's a site dedicated to ADULT conversation. Something N4G is sorely lacking.

Snukadaman6767d ago

The story was about hd-dvd selling for 99 bucks at walmart and best buy..where the hell does blu-ray come into the discussion but idiot fanboys from the format wars....just like on here when something positive for either console...some idiot always haves too chime in.

FirstknighT6767d ago (Edited 6767d ago )

The article was about hd discs and blu ray fanboys came in and started getting hostile. For example, Power of Green didn't say anything hostile but you came in with your "Did you read it IDIOT?" Your childish namecalling comment is clearly the same reason why that site was shut down.

Bathyj6767d ago

The original forum might have been about HDDVD but the point of the post the story linked to was to point out the stupidity of fanboys from both camps, who only whine and only see there own side of things, never considering their "enemies" viewpoint.

Think of me what you like but at least I listen to others point of view even if I dont agree with it, thats why I dont have anyone on my ignore list, even the more annoying of you, and you know who you are.

If I jumped on POG a little quickly its because I had just read the whole story and was thinking how ridiculous some of us are and then the first response I read was exactly the sort of tripe that shut down their forum.

And how you guys can say BR supporters shouldn't be in a HDDVD forum is beyond me. Should I link you back to this thread the next time I see you trolling a PS3 story that you have no business being in?

FirstknighT6767d ago (Edited 6767d ago )

That's fine if you don't agree with one format and enter the forum to express your thoughts and maybe enter in a heated debate. But being hostile is not acceptable. And that's what these bluray fanboys did. Just like what you did with POG. It's time to grow up Bathyj.

I rarely see theMart, POG, Bloodmask, and the rest of the 360 owners get hostile and childish. But you see it very often from the sony fanboys. Having a heated debate is one thing...but getting personal is another.

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C_SoL6767d ago (Edited 6767d ago )

with the console that you choose, format or anything like your country...its just getting a point across, till a fanboy says something stupid, then all the other fanboys attack the guy that was trying to get his point across...all i'm saying is there's nothing wrong with taking pride of what console or format you like(unless you say something stupid). & people if your gonna criticize something, back it up please.....nuff said.

@2.2-I agree with you all the way man...it's just that its never gunna stop.

ArmrdChaos6767d ago

One can show positive support for one's console and still be respectful of others and their choices. The problem with this site and many others is when people twist it all into a win/lose situation...the pride and ego of a "winner". Fragile little egos always trying to assert themselves as a "superior" human being because I chose brand X and it is superior....[insert multiple paragraphs, links, and twisted facts to thus prove (in their world) they are the superior human being. Sociologically...most of them are just damaged goods and clueless as to what life is all about.

Phantom_Lee6767d ago

one guy actully said this..

"...I will seek legal action for my post removals and the truth will come out"

BloodySinner6767d ago

LMAO.

EDIT: Double post. Sorry.

Ri0tSquad6767d ago

waste of time and to be honest I think a dvd upscaled and a nice sound system is good enough for me. DVD ftw.

Peekay6767d ago

& i thought we were bad ;)

shelbygt336767d ago

N4G is much worse than what they shut down avsforum for. If AVS mods were over here, I think they'd shut the entire site down.

jack who6767d ago

i love fanboy warzzz

oh by the way my 10 year old pc is>>>>>the ps3

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Killer2020UK27d ago

Oh my, that is one gaudy design

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"It's Just So Lame" - RTGI Modder Thinks DLSS 5 Is Impressive But Shares AI Slop Sentiment

Pascal Gilcher calls DLSS 5 impressive but shares the "AI slop" sentiment, explaining the likely tech behind it and why he dislikes it.

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CrimsonWing6953d ago

I fail to see how this is AI shhhhlllloooop. Looking at the different games they showed, this has made many of them look far better.

isarai_lee53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

It's AI slop because it ignores the artists intent and changes the details ESPECIALLY when it comes to character faces. The scariest part of it is introducing it as the next stage of DLSS, a feature where the current iteration already has controversy surrounding it and for quite a lot of games cannot be fully disabled. So reasonably the precident is already set for what path this could take, and it's not good

blacktiger53d ago

In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost and so on. Many of the lighting deletes shadow, including shadow on the face like eyes even chin.

Chard53d ago

Why stop at art when it comes to human input - why not just have AI play the game for us, remove human input altogether

theshizer53d ago

If you don’t like it, just don’t enable it. Personally I think it looks great from the videos I have seen.

isarai_lee53d ago

And what about when you can't? Cause there's plenty of games where you cannot fully disable dlss already, i mean we're well into an era where it's a major crutch for developers to cover up their cut corners, why would this be any different?

blacktiger53d ago

You are playing with people's money and allow Nvidia to scam you.

In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost. This is all lie to raise the cost of the graphic card.

Andrew33653d ago

Making characters look more realistic not ok because we want the developer to decide on how the game was intended to look. - Internet

Change entire game through mods thus changing how the developers intended the game to be is ok. - Internet

isarai_lee53d ago

Something consumers can do to a product after they have purchased it, entirely optional and can always be undone with a fresh install

VS

The leading gaming hardware manufacturer making this the next iteration of the main AA/Upscaling technique that is heavily relied upod by modern devs and is not optional in most games.

Not at all the same but nice try

jwillj2k453d ago

At the moment you need 2 5090’s just to get an image on the screen so this is all vaporware until proven otherwise.

Andrew33653d ago

The good news is you can just not use it as well.

Christopher53d ago

It's all about choice in the end. But, I would say that calling it 'more realistic' is quite a stretch. It looks like AI art, and that's rarely realistic.

Urrakia3453d ago

All the comments I see are reminding me of how we got to the current state of gaming when microtransactions were first introduced: "It's completely optional guys, we promise! If you don't like it just don't buy it!"

I think we all know how that ended up.

Popsicle53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

I had the same exact thought the first time this was brought up in a separate article about a week ago. Took me straight back to the conversations surrounding “horse armor.” Just don’t buy it they said. Years later, many IPs I previously enjoyed are so infected with monetization schemes that I don’t even consider purchasing them anymore.

DLSS 5 and the like are the same thing wrapped in a different package. History rhymes but many of us never learn from it.

blacktiger53d ago

Biggest Scam. Overrides lighting and shadow. So why keep Ray tracing? It's all a scam to raise graphic card. We now see Nvidia with Microsoft downturn anything against them. Sony is next!