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Carmack: RAGE development was twice as difficult as imagined

As RAGE trundles on towards completion, programmer John Carmack describes how the game’s development turned out to be “twice as aggressive” as the team had imagined.

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Gazondaily5424d ago

Hmmm that screenshot looks interesting.

I really don't know what to expect from Rage. The multiplayer is, rather oddly, focused solely on vehicular battles and the single player story looks interesting but not much of it has been shown.

This is id software we are talking about so there is no reason why this shouldn't be a great game. Whether it will be eclipsed the torrent of killer apps released later this year is another matter entirely.

JellyJelly5424d ago (Edited 5424d ago )

I'm a bit disappointed in him using the word "twice" as measurement. I'd expect something like "RAGE development was 103.74% more difficult than imagined" coming from him.

BrutallyBlunt5424d ago

Lol, true.

I don't see how this is actually 'news'. What keeps happening on N4G is they take an interview and post the article. Then they break-up the interview and create more articles out of it. So what we have is recycled material acting as top stories for the day.

Fishy Fingers5424d ago (Edited 5424d ago )

Yep, what I like to call "spoon feeding".

Source interviews sit in their channels at 20 degrees while some cheap site rips a paragraph (often out of context), usual comes up with an "attractive" headline and bam, 1000 degrees.

meetajhu5424d ago (Edited 5424d ago )

Idsoftware will take over the title for the creators of the best looking game of this generation.

Crysis->Killzone 2->God of War 3->Cryis 2-> RAGE

DrFUD5424d ago (Edited 5424d ago )

Killzone 3 looks and runs better than Crysis 2

You obviously didn't play KZ3 because it did have color

StayStatic5424d ago (Edited 5424d ago )

But thats just ps3 , looks and runs great on PC

Killzones color pallet is various shades of dog turd , Uncharted looks way better.

MidnytRain5424d ago (Edited 5424d ago )

@StayStatic

I liked KZ2's monotoned colors. It fit the game and its themes - like Fallout 3.

NanoSoldier5424d ago

Crysis 2 is technically in every aspect superior to Killzone 2 and 3. But not here on N4PS3G. Sad that N4G has come to this.

ABizzel15424d ago

Fact Killzone 3 runs better and looks better than Crysis 2 on consoles.

FAct Crysis 2 on PC (especially with DX11) looks and can run better than Killzone 3 if you have the PC to run it (which if you have a PC no more than 2 years old you should be ok running it on medium/medium high which still looks great).

TheDivine5424d ago

Idk i played crysis 2 on my 360 and i think it was was way better looking than kz3. It was open compared to linear, had better lighting, less bugs exc. I still loved kz3 especially the jungle level but crysis 2 was far superior. I had to stop playing and just look at the trees and lighting like holy shi* this is on the 360!

ABizzel15422d ago

Killzone 3 is 720p, 30fps locked.

Crysis is subHD, 30fps but drops during action heavy scenes.

Don't get me wrong Crysis looks great, but when you compare both games Killzone looks better.

The difference is you prefer Crysis 2 artstyle over Killzone's. Crysis 2 setting is realistic which allows you to relate to it more than Killzone who goes for a Sci-Fi look. Also Crysis 2 is set in New York and has a ton of buildings and modern architecture, compared to Killzone which has things you can't compare.

http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

The proof is in the pudding no matter how you want to put it. FACT Killzone runs better than Crysis 2, and the only the only reason to pick Crysis over Killzone for graphics is if you prefer realism over Sci-Fi.

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Shanks5424d ago (Edited 5424d ago )

Killzone 2 > God of War 3? Are you high?
God of War 3's gameplay looks like a CG movie.
God of War 3 > All.

caseh5424d ago (Edited 5424d ago )

I bought GoW 3 a few months back and only recently got around to playing it.
First thing that I really noticed was how good it looked. I wouldn't say its better than everything else about but it is no doubt a sexy looking game.

I'm just astonished that Konami released MGS4 quite early in PS3 life cycle and it still looks amazing even today. Why Konami didn't do anything else with the game engine considering the work that went into it is completely beyond me.

theonlylolking5424d ago (Edited 5424d ago )

You iD fanboys are so annoying. You think everything iD does is sooo great. Well RAGE's graphics on consoles do NOT look any better than black ops.

MW2 looks better than RAGE on consoles. In RAGE the textures are just as mushy as the unreal engine when it is loading the textures. RAGE only has good shaders to try to trick you peeps.

http://images.gamersyde.com...

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Here is MW2 on xbox 360
http://images.gamersyde.com...

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http://images.gamersyde.com...

Those were just a FEW images to prove my point.

@nanosoldier
It could technically be superior but if it does not look graphically superior then it does not win.

@ABizzel1
RAGE is not open world. Carmack said the engine is not made for open world.

ABizzel15424d ago

I'm not a iD fan at all, I've never played any of their games, but I am looking forward to Rage, because it reminds me of Borderlands and I really enjoyed Borderlands (although that was because of 4 player co-op throughout the game).

But Rage is an open world game compared to COD which is an extremely linear game.

paintsville5424d ago

"“The rasteriser is just a little bit slower – no two ways about that. The RSX is slower than what we have in the 360. Processing wise, the main CPU is about the same, but the 360 makes it easier to split things off, and that’s where a lot of the work has been, splitting it all into jobs on the PS3.” John Carmack

nickjkl5423d ago

the ending of your post is confusing

which way is it supposed to go

you say rage will be the best looking game of the generation but you have crysis on the other side

which way is it going

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Xbox Deals With Gold and Spotlight Sale Discounts – 4th-10th Aug 2020

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Rage's Open World Was Intimate & Memorable, Not Another Huge, Empty Sandbox

Rage from id Software and Bethesda Softworks was largely overlooked, yet its handcrafted FPS open world and memorable characters transcend genre convention.

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Fist4achin2384d ago

I enjoyed the first game. I plan to play the sequel soon!

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Here are Star Wars The Force Unleashed, Crysis 2, RAGE & Resident Evil 2 Remake with Ray Tracing

YouTube’s members ‘Digital Dreams’ and ‘Jose cangrejo’ have shared some videos, showcasing Pascal Gilcher’s Reshade mod – which adds Ray Tracing/Path Tracing effects – in some really old games such as Star Wars The Force Unleashed, Crysis 2, RAGE and Resident Evil 6.

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traumadisaster2537d ago

I'm still learning how to look for the differences. At first I was focusing on shadows for some reason but I don't think that changes much, is it reflections that change?

rashada072537d ago (Edited 2537d ago )

It is supposed to be simulating how light actually works- so yes if light is reflecting off a surface accurately it should show reflection or an effect that matches what you are looking at in the environment. Next time you play a game look at a puddle of water there may be just a "baked" in texture that if you aren't paying attention seems like it is reflecting but it isn't. I would say though if the light is reflecting more accurately I would think that would give more accurate shadows as well.
I am still not 100% sold on it- it looks okay but I can't get over the hardware price jump for better reflections..

Taz X142537d ago

While games won't look immensely better, it opens up more possibilities overall. Understandably, the price jump is huge. But, that can be said for being at the forefront for any new technology. I'm currently using a 2080ti and while I've played a few games that enable it, the gpu also plays everything else incredibly well so it's not like you're buying this tech for ONLY that option. Enthusiasts will pay top dollar to check out the newest things, but this will eventually become an everyday consumer and by then they'll have optimized and become a lot cheaper.

warriorcase2536d ago

Ray/path tracing can be used how the developer wants it to be. Tracing can be used to calculate shadows/lighting, reflection and even audio, where audio waves are calculated on the bounce off material types to simulate enviroment and echos accuratly.

Should also keep in mind that this ray/path tracing system is different and less accurate option from Nvidias RTX branded type. McFly's is a reshade that layers over the top of the game and therefor the quality will vary drastically. For example you can see nice reflection in the Star Wars demo here but it then introduces colour clipping with the light saber. On a video of GTA 5 for example it was incorrectly projecting a reflection of a red car onto the road which caused a very faint red glow on the ground around the car.

If you want to see a good example of a game developed with ray tracing reflection and lighting in mind then you could look up the youtube video of "Control - Exclusive E3 RTX GAMEPLAY Trailer".

DigitallyAfflicted2537d ago

It supposed to add more realistic light Not actually more light effects and explosions

traumadisaster2537d ago

I hate to say it but I’m fine with fake lights, shadows, reflections. I just kind of like the effect, it’s also great it saves resources for other things.

I’ve been checking out some original Xbox games on x360/x1x and the engine has fake light streaming in through a stained glass window, and I love it even though I know it’s not real time lighting. Heck it even shifts as I move about.

I’ve about convinced my self rt and hdr just doesn’t work for me. Before hdr I would even complain damn why are the headlights killing me they are so bright.

I notice most frame rate, then jaggies, then resolution; with the last two interchangeable depending.

Other day watched an enthusiast rave over 4k and the poor guy was in 1080p. I played the same game the night before and thought wow this is clean, I wonder if it’s 4k, but knew differently and I thought wow even resolution is not always important. The next day he apologized and was surprised he could be fooled.

RaidenBlack2536d ago

EA should have released the Crysis Trilogy Remaster for this gen.

FGHFGHFGH2531d ago

How come the lightsabers don't give off any light? Even in the EA star wars game the guy uses it to light up a dark cave. I guess if it is using frostbite it will support rtx cards.