Apparently the eyetoy had Kinect like games in development where it would make full use of the camera but they got canceled when the eyetoy didn't do very well.

Yeah,there's something called ps eye mesmerise that has kinect like features.

@MrSpace - Eyetoy sold over 10 million. It didn't really do poorly for a peripheral.

And what happens in Kung Fu Live if you kick directly at the camera? No...eyetoy does not have FULL body detection in a 3D space as much as most would like to believe.

If you kick directly at the camera, it does a special move to kill all enemies on screen. It doesn't have depth, but it uses an algorithm to make up for it. The larger or smaller part of you gets...the further away from the screen or closer to the screen it is. That's pretty basic stuff.

THINK for a second, man.

Don't give me that crap! If Move is just a more advanced wiimote then the same goes for the Kinect being just a more advanced PSEye.

I know Sony never capitalized on the PSEye and not a whole lot of games were made for it, but that doesn't mean it did not exist. Neither of the peripherals are innovative, NEITHER.

^ keywords: 'more' & 'innovative'

He said Kinect is 'more' innovative than Move. It's a comparison, doesn't necessarily mean that either is all that innovative.

Also, you seem to be confusing innovation with creativity.
Improving something that already exists is innovation.

But i will give you that crap . Kinect allows far more and can be used in actually innovative ways . Just seek your poofs online among the various hacks and uses devs have been fiddling with .

It just hasnt translated in anything interesting for games so far (or if ever ) .

It's there , it's documented , IT's more INNOVATIVE , it's up to you to do your research .

Meanwhile the move is a better wiimote . Give me that any day over kinect , but it's still just a better remote .

Anwyay screw it , i can't believe you make me waste time defending that thing .

dude i already said it's not showing in games so far , and would pick move ver it anyway .

How about just reading posts . It's a damn stupid tech award , they rewarded the tech , nothing less or more .

Microsoft has done nothing to its core gamers. The only people bothered by what Microsoft is doing are people who live in a fantasy world based upon the idea that exclusives are the end all be all of gaming...even though COD sales have clearly indicated otherwise.

This year, 360 owners can play Catherine, MK9, Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, Saints Row: The Third, Gears 3, Forza 4, MGS HD Collection, MW3, BF3, Batman AC, AC: Revelations, Dead Island, Skyrim etc.

Ever since 2006, the 360 has released only 1 or 2 definitive exclusive games per year and LARGELY focused on multiplatform games.

Why the complaints now?

Just because the PS3 has more exclusive games than the 360 doesn't mean that Microsoft isn't supporting their core base. By that logic, the PS3 isn't supporting their core fans since the PC has 5x the exclusives that the PS3 has this year.

I've seen it has vastly improved the bottom line for MS, making it far more likely that they well stay in the gaming business.

Companies have to grow their customer base in order to stay healthy. That doesn't mean they dump loyal customers. MS is simply interested in expanding their business beyond basement dwelling nerds.

Fantasy world....

Microsoft used to be so in touch with it's fan base and knew what they wanted...and not just exclusives. Just everything they are doing now is family this and Kinect that. I knew when I saw Kinect at 2010s E3 that this would be it for Microsoft in terms of core gamers when it would get released....and I was right.

Oh and mentioning COD sales....really. COD sells anyway, it dosen't mean sh!t

@ironwolf: They've said in interviews that Kinect are it's main focus, they are now relying on MP games to get them by and keep BS in interviews "Core gamers love Kinect", "Core games are coming" (said multiply times since Kinect was first revealed in 09). The way they are going it's like a giant middle finger to the people who got them where they are today

lol..I hate using a bubble to "lol" someone, but "This is what happens when schools stop teaching economics." made me chuckle. Sigh, I think that all the time about communication skills, and grammar.
thx for the chuckle

Right the ps move was awesome i have the gun thing from killzone still.