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JRPG Versus WRPG

VelocityGamer writes: In this corner weighing in at 180lbs at 5'10” we have Bioware and Bethseda. In the other corner weighing in at 160lbs at 5'3” we we have Square-Enix and Konami. Which one of these two competitors will prove the strongest? Or are they even fighting in the same ring?

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bwazy5470d ago

If you mean FFXIII vs Mass Effect then ME literally and I mean LITERALLY takes the worlds biggest dump on FFXIII.

No contest

No way in hell

I'm stating this as FACT, Logical fact. The kind of fact that would be idiotic to ignore.

MaxXAttaxX5470d ago

There's no use in comparing anything to FFXIII.
If XIII was the representation of all JRPGs I would never play them.

bwazy5470d ago

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Falloutxii5470d ago (Edited 5470d ago )

@ bwazy
I agree with you, On the other hand if you put FFX vs ME then FFX "LITERALLY takes the worlds biggest dump on ME."

MaxXAttaxX5470d ago

FFX's battle system was its strongest asset.

slayorofgods5470d ago

Are people too young to remember how great jrpg's were prior to this generation?

ps1 and ps2 jrpg's > 360 & PS3 wrpg's.

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RBLAZE19885470d ago

It's not fair for them to use one of the best wrpg games and one of the worst Jrpg games for this comparison. What a loaded comparison for the wrpg side....so many better examples

Pozzle5470d ago

FFXIII wasn't great, but it's hardly "one of the worst JRPG games". Seriously, try playing some JRPGs from lesser known studios. They're downright painful. x_x

RBLAZE19885470d ago

no they're one of the worst Jrpg's i've ever played...i've never not completed an rpg game except for FF13 and I have been playing them since the ps1. None have been such a huge let down and with the pedigree the FF games have it was even more disappointing

Pozzle5468d ago

You haven't played too many JRPGs then. Seriously, try playing something like Chaos Wars, Call for Heroes, or Metalheart. Those games are awful to the point of being almsot broken. They make FFXIII look like a masterpiece by comparison.

fr00ty-wizenhymer5470d ago

Meh, FFXIII sucked but Mass Effect was complete shit as well. Gaming in general is going down the toilet.

tplarkin75470d ago

The great thing about JRPGs is the art design and the female characters. Women enjoy being feminine in JRPGs. This is not the case with the vast majority of WRPGs.

WRPGs are usually fugly. Mass Effect is one of the few WRPGs that have feminine women and an art design without poo smeared on peoples faces.

8bit_Nes_Rambo5470d ago

Actually, I thought Mass Effect (especially 2) was garbage. Terrible Tps gunplay bolted onto some rpg conventions and a throwaway dialogue system. Still, they were better than FFXIII, didn't sell as much, but were better.

Chrono5470d ago

Classic JRPGs >>>>>>> WRPGs and current-gen JRPGs

rezzah5469d ago

thats ur personal opinion

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Godmars2905470d ago (Edited 5470d ago )

JRPGs just came in crippled this gen as far as HD consoles go.

And I know some idiot is going to point Lost Odyssey or say they like FFXIII, while ignoring the fact that LO was considered a retro title. Not an example to set standards.

And if you like FFXIII - do I honestly have to go into the issues that have been stated and restated around it?

As for WRPGs, they're no different from JRPGs in that they haven't basically changed, but were able to adapt to the 360 and PS3. Oblivion is just an updated Morrowind.

just_sayin5470d ago

jrpgs i love the latest in the tales series Vesperia,Grace f,Xillia>Mass Effect

Peaceful_Jelly5470d ago

only if you're a hardcore weaboo...

ZoidsRaven5470d ago

Konami? Square-Enix? FF XIII?
Is it just me, or was bad JRPG games/makers picked to make WRPGs look better?

Peaceful_Jelly5470d ago

I think FFXIII has the highest metacritic between all the current-gen Jrpg's. We really need a new SMT to save us all! @_@

Pozzle5470d ago

Probably because reviewers don't like giving JRPGs a chance. There are quite a few JRPGs I'd say are better than FFXIII, but because they aren't called "Final Fantasy" reviewers either totally ignore them or give them shitty scores for being too linear, or having an outdated battle system, or having too-long cutscenes, etc. The same stuff they praise FFXIII for.

TheColbertinator5470d ago

@Peaceful_Jelly

Actually its Demons Souls and Valkyria Chronicles.

8bit_Nes_Rambo5470d ago

Persona 4 and that Mario and Luigi rpg ranked highly as well.

ZoidsRaven5469d ago

And you think that makes FF 13 a good game?
Residence of Fate takes a sh!t on that JRPG sell-out. 7_7

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Metacritic's 2026 Game Publisher Rankings

Jason Dietz: "We reveal the past year's best and worst video game publishers (based on their 2025 releases) in the 16th edition of our annual Game Publisher Rankings."

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Christopher96d ago

Take note, Sony, you're falling behind by a lot.

-Foxtrot96d ago (Edited 96d ago )

I was just going to say this, their biggest and top rated game here is TLOU2 for PC….it’s embarrassing.

Even Ubisoft and EA are ahead

Kind of surprised Nintendo is pretty low aswell, their biggest game is also a rerelease with the Switch 2 version of TotK.

StoneColdCrazy95d ago

That’s what happens when you start shutting down your own studios and forget what actually made you matter in the industry in the first place. Sony used to set the standard — now it feels like they’ve lost that identity. And if they decide to walk away from the PC market too, that’s going to be another huge mistake — that platform is only growing, and ignoring it now would just put them even further behind.

1Victor96d ago

@christopher:” Take note, Sony, you're falling behind by a lot.”
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Why single out Sony? Microsoft didn’t do any better than the year before 5th same as Sony 9th and they have acquired activision and other mayor titles that have boosted their score massively from a 9th and Sony a 4th the year before the acquisitions.
Sony does need to do better without a doubt and I do hope they do take note but not the note of buying publishers is the way to succeed.

Christopher96d ago

1. Microsoft didn't get worse.
2. Sony got way worse.
3. Because Sony needs the criticism the most considering their publishing output this generation has been propped up by last gen ports and third-party developers for the most part.

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thesoftware73096d ago

1Victor,

I don't wanna speak for Christopher, but like most of us we recognize that Sony's output this Gen has been way below their own standards.

Also Sony did buy a fair amount of Devs, I know you will say they were not publishers, and don't compare in size, but they had their fair share of Aquisitions, including the very well established Bungie.

The overall point is with their stellar first party track record of the past, they should not be going down, they are singled out because they are some of the best videogame devs/publisher on the planet...no matter what reasons we attribute to the situation, they are moving in the wrong direction... period.

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KyRo95d ago

Its widely accept that Sony this generation has been underwhelming. We've had more peripheral releases, controller variants, PS5 accessories than games it feels like. The exclusives were also PS4 and what little output they have put exclusively on PS5 is nowhere near as memorable as what came in every generation before that.

This isn't a Sony hate post but anyone who's older and has been around for a long time gaming will agree that PS5 is by far Sony's worst generation. As much as Xbox is in the gutter, I pray the do bounce back in the hope we get Sony to wake up again.

darthv7295d ago (Edited 95d ago )

If you want to critique MS... you are doing so towards their management. The games output and their hardware have been much better than PS this gen. Sadly... people still hold a grudge against XB because of MS. Thankfully i am not that petty... I've been enjoying their games output in the drought of PS. And add in some NS1/2 games as well to balance things out. Things will change for me once Wolverine hits, and I start using my 5 more. That one I'm looking forward to. And the Marvel fighter... I'm not a GTA player so that has no bearing on my view of things.

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Profchaos96d ago

Big part of that has been the live service push resulting in cancellation or flop after flop but when they put out the games their fans want we get amazing stuff like astro bot

Leadership really screwed the pooch trend chasing

1Victor96d ago (Edited 96d ago )

https://www.metacritic.com/...

https://www.metacritic.com/...
Well I apologize I was wrong about not doing worse but my statement of Microsoft getting a boost still stand 🤷🏿

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1Victor95d ago

Well OBSCURED unlike you I’m honorable enough to recognize when I’m wrong and apologize.
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@ The software you know there’s no comparison between what Microsoft acquired and what Sony acquired that’s why you tried to get ahead of the conversation, yes we all know Sony can do better than what they have done this gen but they inhaled the poison GAS they thought would bring money for years but we make sure they got the message and quite a few games got cancelled you know as well a hit like that take years to be corrected and by now they hopefully will have taken steps away from the GAS and slowed their approach to them.

bsingle4095d ago

You will say anything when you are in denial that your hardware is dead and nobody wants your platform. Good luck with Helix because nobody will buy it.

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SimulationDaily96d ago

But... but... the garbage-mongers always tell us that Square Enix is in trouble! 😂

Christopher96d ago

Square doesn't help that it fear mongers itself with ridiculous 'goals' that they can't reach and then they proclaim failure if they don't reach it. They're quite freaking profitable and people act like they're dying.

SimulationDaily96d ago (Edited 96d ago )

Keep in mind that these "proclamations" are usually third-hand bad translations from somedude who was at the investor conference, posted on Twitter, and picked up by press and youtubers like they were gold, and then when the official translation comes out, they're much softer statements, but at that point, the damage is done.

gold_drake96d ago

to be very fair

being number one on these things does not indicate how "well" their games do selling wise.

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Square Enix Reports Lower Sales but Growing Profits in Financial Results

Square Enix announced its financial results for the first nine months of the fiscal year, related to the period between April and December 2025.

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Shareholder denounces Square Enix's 'sluggish' revenue and profit

3D Investment Partners, a major shareholder of Square Enix, issued a 112-page presentation criticizing the company's 'sluggish' revenue and profit margins.

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SimpleDad201d ago

Basically, their presentation says: Go Woke, Go broke.
Sorry fellow N4gamers.

Alos88201d ago

Or, alternatively, don't cut Switch and Steam out of your biggest releases day one.

360ICE200d ago

If your response to a 112 page presentation from a profit-maximizing investment fund about the need for corporate restructuring (i.e. layoffs), integrating non-gaming (i.e. sell merch or build a theme park) and other corporate initiatives, is that it's about "go woke, go broke", then it's because you've lost the ability to think in any terms. Awful way to live your life. Private equity is destroying the games industry while you obsess that Square made a cringe game everyone thinks is cringe in 2023. Time to move on.

gold_drake201d ago

i mean .. we've been saying this for years.

franwex201d ago

Oh darn. Maybe games with NFTs can fixed that!

Soy201d ago

Waaah waaah our profits aren't big enough! I mean, they're still growing and all, but we want it faster and NOW! Waaaah!

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