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Nintendo: The Wii U will not have the same software problems as the Wii

Looks like the Nintendo is going all out on this system. Its gonna be good.

XabiDaChosenOne5421d ago

Hope not, first step is recognizing the problem, which is the Wii library.

just_looken5421d ago

You forgot not 1 Nintendo machine can play a simple cd not to mention dvd's Nintendo always old tech the wiiu will be a $600 machine for kids.

StarWolf5421d ago

lol who cares, its called netflix. whats a "dvd" lmao get with the program

ozstar5421d ago

Completely agree. Obviously including the ability to play Bluray films on the PS3 was the key reason for its market leading success!

oh wait nevermind

Xof5421d ago

Well then... why don't they FIX the Wii's software problems instead of abandoning the console and shifting focus? It's not like it's an incurable illness: if the problem is that the Wii has too few good games, MAKE MORE GOOD GAMES.

Simple, right?

Or, alternatively, try localizing games that appeal to core gamers instead of giving the entire North American community a giant middle finger.

death2smoochie5421d ago (Edited 5421d ago )

It's not that simple...

The "good games" as you call it would mostly come from 3rd party developers and as seen with the few core games released NOT made by Nintendo, sold poorly.
So you have to ask yourself, why would 3rd party developers put in the time, money and man power to create "good games" when the demographics for the Wii does not buy those games in general?
Take a look at sales for all NON owned Nintendo games on the Wii that are core games and not casual...The numbers are telling...
It's too late for the Wii...
Good games won't help them now...

kneon5421d ago

And the Wii U could have similar problems. How many will it have to sell before 3rd party developers will be willing to make a AAA game for the Wii U? And what happens if again the games don't sell because the demographic for most of those games already have an Xbox and/or a PS3?

If the Wii U online sucks, which there is a good chance it will from what we've been hearing, then I wouldn't expect much adoption from the XBox and PS3 crowd. It could be tough going for the 3rd parties, if that happens then the Wii U will be the Wii all over again, without that massive adoption by casual players.

MaxXAttaxX5421d ago (Edited 5421d ago )

I must agree with your alternative.

But when it comes to fixing that issue on the Wii itself, it's kinda hard to expect much core game support from third-party developers that want to move on. It would be all up to Nintendo itself to deliver the goods more often than they have.

That's why I think the Wii-U may not have the same issues as it has better and more enticing hardware for them to work with.

Kamikaze1355421d ago

Because they're shifting focus onto the Wii U. It's already too late to start gaining more fans from the Wii since people already label it as a casual console with one or two good games. Wii U seems to be targeting the typical casual Wii fans along with the more hardcore fans.

Also, these "good" games take years to make and it's only logical that developers start to ditch the Wii now so that the Wii U can have some phenomenal titles within a year of release.

ChickeyCantor5421d ago (Edited 5421d ago )

Iwata stated that in an interview that the WiiU wasn't going to be announced this year. But the rumors got so close to the actual thing they had to.

saladthieves5421d ago (Edited 5421d ago )

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Just finishing your if statement in your picture there. :)

ChickeyCantor5421d ago

@egidem

An else is not a necessity. Only if the logic requires is =).

jacksheen00005421d ago (Edited 5421d ago )

Because the Wii lack the horse power to deliver anything better then what they have already been developed in the past; graphically wise. Call of Duty is a prime example.

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death2smoochie5421d ago (Edited 5421d ago )

The software problems arises because the Wii was essentially a GameCube with motion controls and most 3rd party developers did not want to gimp the hell out of their titles to fit on a system that was lacking in every way possible compared to the Xbox360 and PS3 in the processing arena.
Moreover, it became a fully casual console and games OTHER than Nintendo's 1st party exclusives and a select few dance and casual games sold poorly.
Why put core games on the Wii if they would not even give a basic return of investment for those 3rd party developers?
That's why we did not see decent 3rd party support for the wii.
Lets see if Nintendo can change this with the Wii-U....

TacoTaru5421d ago

meh - Nintendo won't even localize a few games for the Wii that many people want. Xenoblade? Would it be that expensive to just add English subtitles? I don't have much faith in them anymore.

MachoMoustachio5421d ago

I don't understand what Nintendo is gonna do when the next Xbox and PlayStation have graphics far superior than the Wii U.

It might just be the Wii all over again.

NLGSean5421d ago

Yeah, its REALLY going to suck if the Wii all over again and Nintendo sells another 84 million consoles...

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot13d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle13d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7713d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay14d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn215d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn214d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown14d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay14d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay14d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac14d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger14d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300014d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde14d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde14d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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FuRyu's Exstetra RPG Gets HD Remaster on Steam in English This Summer

FuRyu revealed on Friday its Exstetra fantasy role-playing game is getting an HD remaster that will launch this summer on Steam.

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