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The Next-Gen Is Coming

VelocityGamer writes: There's no doubt the internal rumblings that keep coming to surface suggest to me something is going to, or is happening, concerning the next-gen, maybe sooner than we think.

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Sinterfire5434d ago

It's big news if ture. I for one can't wait to play native 1080P games (on consoles) Bring it, I'm ready for it.

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AAACE55434d ago

Nintendo said in January, they have no need to release a Wii successor! In june, they announced a Wii successor!

MS and Sony have both denied next gen consoles in the works... who wants to bet they get announced in the first quarter of 2012?

Kinect is showing me that the 360 is shifting towards being a second console. Similar to having a Ps2 around the house somewhere!

While Ps3 does have some extra power to stick it out another year or two... Don't think for one second that Sony will make the mistake of being the last to launch again!

I am content with my 360 and Ps3... but if new consoles were announced.... F*ck both of them, i'm all in!

KingDustero5434d ago

I myself don't care what resolution games are in next-gen. They'll look better no matter what. I'm pretty sure that BOTH the PS4 and 360 successor are almost finalized spec wise now. They'll probably both be announced at E3 next year.

What I find funny though is that a lot of third parties are the one's complaining about limitations of the current gen consoles. NON of them have even maxed out the PS3 yet. ONLY Sony's first party studios like Santa Monica Studio, Guerrilla Games, Naughty Dog, etc, have come close and NONE of them are complaining.

I'm pretty sure that ALL of these studios are working on PS4 development in one way or anther. That would explain why SMS and GG are silent about their games. The other day ND said that any Uncharted after Uncharted 3 would be running on a new engine. Why would they need a new engine when theirs is maxing out the console alredy? That's right it is because it is NOT for the current gen console.

The next-gen IS coming SOONER than later. The PS3 and 360 have been out for 5-6 years now respectively. It is time for them to take a rest and let someone else to take their place.

The ONLY ones really complaining about the next-gen consoles are the ones who have recently gotten one or more of the current gen consoles. You guys are later adopters and will ALWAYS be late adopters. Those of us who have had the current consoles since launch or soon after are ready for the next-gen and open it with open arms.

raztad5434d ago

I find all this talk about the "almost here" next gen a little silly actually.

Do you guys really think Sony is ready to drop the PS3 as their main platform and jump next gen when the PS3 is still at a $300 price point? do people really think the market is ready for another $500+ console with all the power you are expecting it to have, in order to run games with advanced shaders and geometry at 1080p and 60fps? I dont think so.

I totally dont think Sony is ready to absorb another loss on their hardware division, introducing a new home console, when the PS3 is still capable of running games with innovative gameplay and good physics. What is next gen meant to deliver anyway besides 1080p and (supposedly) 60fps?

MaxXAttaxX5433d ago

If PC is the defining factor for what next gen is, then we're definitely not there yet.

We're not seeing PS2 to PS3-type graphical leaps yet.

trancefreak5433d ago (Edited 5433d ago )

Here is the thing that makes me ponder.

When new consoles arrive they will be powerhouses most likely running nice visuals @ 1080p.

Like all gens the software gets better overtime with fine tuning game engines and such.

What happens later in the cycle when the PC ports really start to move away again.
Do we revert back to 720p output to keep those graphics in check? Or do MS/Sony force game designers to keep those resolutions.

That will be interesting I believe. Maybe both console will just upscale regardless of the actual real output.

I would love to see dual output for real this time to play on to monitors or TVs with a buddy If I wanted as a option. Doubt it will happen but would be nice if it was there.

I still would rather have these consoles in about 2 more years. I think it will go down in 2013/2014.
I just hope that the games don't jump up to 70 bucks a pop -the tax.

BattleAxe5433d ago (Edited 5433d ago )

I'll stick with my PS3 for at least 2-3 years after they release the PS4. Devs will still make games for PS3 and probably support it for a longer period of time with top game franchises as opposed to the drop off of major franchise support that happened with the PS2 after PS3 was released. Personally I don't think the next generation of consoles will sell as fast as this generation did. Also, because of Digital distributors like Steam, PC gaming is coming back in a huge way. Personally I think the PSV is Sony's new focus rather than releasing another full blown console a year or so from now.

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socomnick5433d ago

Zink want a bigger leap in graphics.

Build a gaming pc.

I bet any money a gaming pc 2 years ago will be better then next gen consoles.

All of the next gen consoles willt ake the safe route and go profit day 1.Low power machines with old hardware.

silvacrest5433d ago

until PC's get quality exclusives and not just 2 or 3 a year and not counting MMO's, none of what you said will matter

MOTY5433d ago (Edited 5433d ago )

@ DarkFantasy

"until PC's get quality exclusives and not just 2 or 3 a year"

You mean like Socom 4 and how that is a "quality" exclusive?

The PC gets a heck of a lot more exclusives a year than the PS3, 360 AND Wii combined. Whether it's "quality" is up to the individual that buys the game.

Do your research and stop acting like an ignorant fanboy. The ONLY area where PC falters is the cost to build the PC in order to have the best of a game and the rapid progression of PC parts.

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silenius5434d ago

I don't want a new gen console... I want freaking new cool game IPs. I believe we have given enough money to M$ and Sony to screw us over with new machines... GIVE US GAMES YOU GREEDY HYPOCRITES!

sinclaircrown5434d ago (Edited 5434d ago )

There are a BOAT LOAD of great games for both consoles. Its just too difficult to please some people though.

Everything must be AAA!!!!

Also.. Don't release games aimed at casuals! They don't deserve to game!!!

milohighclub5434d ago

@sinclaircrown shut the f$&k up everyone deserves to game.

n to the b5434d ago (Edited 5434d ago )

@milohighclub: although I disagree with sinclairclown, I'm pretty sure he/she was being sarcastic - and it was pretty obvious...

also, your flamebait, h8er username belies your 'everyone deserves to b gamerzzz!!' comment.

DarkFantasy5433d ago

I Agree silenius not enough new ip's and too many sequels,not i like sequels but were are the new games!!!

hiredhelp5433d ago

@silvacrest

Stronghold 3
Ghost recon online
Star wars old republic online
Red Orchestra 2: Heroes Of Stalingrad
Diablo 3
Dota 2
Natural Selection 2

Infact just look at link inc games alreay out
http://www.gamemunition.com...

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sinclaircrown5434d ago

I gotta agree with Sinterfire. Its not that I'm over these consoles. Rather, I love seeing what else can be done in the gaming industry.

Right now people are saying "PS3 still has so many good games coming out". Yeah, that's true, but I think as far as quality goes, its likely these consoles are about "maxed out". We got some awesome games, and I'm sure more will come in the next year or so, but the new consoles must be on the way.

Even if WiiU isn't much of a leap from PS3 in power, fact is it will still be the most powerful console out there, and Sony and MS can't allow that to happen for too long. Before you know some amazing games will come out for WiiU if done correctly.

PS4 and 720 need to happen within 18 months of WiiU launch. Well, not "need" but I think it would be the smartest idea.

the_best_player5434d ago

Too many PS3 games coming still.

sinclaircrown5434d ago

they'll still work when the PS4 comes out...

Pl4sm45433d ago (Edited 5433d ago )

so bluray isnt 1080p native ? ... does the ps3 changes its HD from games to movies ?

subtenko5433d ago (Edited 5433d ago )

Same story, different article. Im gonna go create my own article now, theres already hundreds of them.

*goes to write article about next-gen*

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Jumper095434d ago

hopefully. we need new consoles

Ocelot5255434d ago (Edited 5434d ago )

the gap between the PS3 and PC is much lower than the gap between the PS2 and the PC back in the time.

The ps3 and 360 are today still more powerfull than many laptops.

Take max payne 2 for example , the difference between the PC and ps2 version was huge. Most pc games weren't even released on the PS2 because of the weak hardware. This isn't the case with the current gen.Today the difference between console and pc games is much smaller.

hudsoniscool5434d ago

the differance is increasing, by 2012/2013 it will be pritty big.

MWH5434d ago (Edited 5434d ago )

are you for real? do remember that because most games are multiplat the game usually carries the "genes" of the least powerful console or should i say the most convinient to program for regardless to what that may be.

today's PC power has surpassed consoles significantly but it's being hindered by the just mentioned fact.

for all the good reasons, i vote Yes to new consoles. play your cards better this time MS, Sony and Nintendo.

ViserysTargaryen5434d ago (Edited 5434d ago )

LOL the PS3 is more powerful than what laptops? I don't see any laptops out there with 512 MB of RAM. Hell, there are droids cell phones that can out muscle the consoles in that department.

bioflex5434d ago

i am pretty certain you don't know what you are talking about. a 3.0ghz Core 2 Duo pc, 2gig ram, and a 4850/9800 is an overkill to match any console game ( including Uncharted 1,2,3 and GOW3)

i mean tell me any console game that looks better than Crysis 1 on pc. Not even the ps3's fanboys' Uncharted and God of War 3.

Ocelot5255433d ago (Edited 5433d ago )

"i am pretty certain you don't know what you are talking about. a 3.0ghz Core 2 Duo pc, 2gig ram, and a 4850/9800 is an overkill to match any console game"

true , but there are still people with budget pc's

the 360 and ps3 are much better than these systems:

Mobile Intel 4 Series Express 1.31% -0.37%
NVIDIA GeForce 8400 0.63% -0.05%
NVIDIA GeForce 9400 1.01% -0.30%
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M 1.06% -0.23%
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 1.14% -0.44%
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 0.51% -0.11%
(NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1.20% +0.12%)--> might be a draw

(I exclude ati GPU's because I'm not experienced with these cards)

http://store.steampowered.c...

I got to admit tough that this last has become small.Last year it was three times as big.

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firemassacre5434d ago

i cant wait to see what the ps4 will look like.

sickbird5434d ago

IM READY, even though its totally unnecessary..

Rampaged Death5434d ago

I really hope it's 2013. Next year would be early for me. Both consoles still have another year or so in them.

sickbird5434d ago

sony would really be shooting themselves in the foot, their finally doing well and to put out a new console would be a disaster.

Hockeydud195434d ago

not entirely. They have the fan base now, they have the exclusives etc. It's not like everyone has to switch over right away. I'm probably not going to switch my console for atleast half a year just considering the possible failure rates of the consoles.

Rampaged Death5434d ago (Edited 5434d ago )

They won't be doing it next year but Microsoft could be. Sony have Vita to concentrate on.

Edit: Actually I just remembered they have Halo 4 coming next year so I doubt MS would launch in 2012. Maybe they reveal 2012 then 2013 launch

Hockeydud195434d ago

I don't think it could be any earlier than 2013. Mainly since all the big hit titles that are coming out for the consoles early in the year. That's the one thing i've actually noticed. MOST of the big hit titles of next year are coming out in the spring so who knows what'll be next.

trancefreak5433d ago

I wonder how Xbox live and PSN will transition.

Example do some games like a cod that is released on xbox360 and next gen Xbox play online together.

Or would it cause confusion and lack of incentive to move up to the latest and greatest.

I wish I had a micro fly on the wall of Microsoft and Sony headquarters LOL.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot24d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle24d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7724d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay25d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn225d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn225d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown25d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay25d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay25d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac24d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger25d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300025d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde25d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde25d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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Top Racers Need Top Gear – Introducing the Forza Horizon 6 Limited Edition Controller and Headset

Omar writes: "With the Horizon Festival coming to breathtaking Japan, you’ll need the essential gear to prove you’ve got what it takes to become a Horizon Legend as you cruise, drift and explore an open world full of spectacular driving experiences. That’s why we’re happy to announce the newest Limited Edition Xbox Wireless Controller and Wireless Headset collection, featuring inspired designs from Forza Horizon 6. The bright cyan and lime colorways celebrate the Horizon Festival’s recognition of iconic cars and hit music, with special features that are sure to impress any collector."

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Killer2020UK31d ago

Oh my, that is one gaudy design