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No universal Nintendo network for Wii U

Nintendo of America's President Reggie Fils-Aime has discussed further the firm's plans for Wii U's online capabilities, and suggested that Nintendo may open the console up for publisher-specific networks, rather than launch a universal online service similar to Xbox Live and PlayStation Network.

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Shok5446d ago

That could be a good thing or bad thing. That might mean we have to make accounts for each companies game (EA account, Ubiosft account, Activision account) but at the same time, at least this means we won't have to deal with Nintendo's BS.

But as long as Nintendo gives us a unified friend's list and basic online features like chat rooms and such I'll be fine.

handheldwars25446d ago (Edited 5446d ago )

It will be the best possible thing for big publishers. But kinda sad for indie devs...

NewMonday5445d ago

this could mean we have to have different friend list for every publishers network

Spitfire_Riggz5445d ago

Well.. I see this as being like Metal Gear online... and that was annoying to be honest

N4g_null5445d ago

Believe me it's a good thing. Nintendo can easily link any account with the hardware address on the system.

This also opens up cross platform play. Ds vs pc vs wiiu. Nintendo just doesn't want online they want it to matter.

What is cool indies could make their own wow now on a console. Also I'm sure there are enough server clients built into the engines we use to do just fine.

What is even cooler is gamers can setup their own servers if developers choose this. The door is wide open to great online gaming. Another thing that could now be possible is console based mods. On top of this imagine using the wiiu drawing feature to make your own maps for a 3d game!

I'm not crazy about user made content but giving gamers some design tool that are close to what the pros use is a win for every one. Except the ones trying to charge for some thing we already have on pc for free.

AO1JMM5446d ago

Could be awesome especially for Steam like functions for Valve games.

Are we getting individual logins on the WiiU like we have on 360/PS3?

N4g_null5445d ago

Looks like the shop thing will still be there so I'm thinking yeah devs just have a choice to use it or not. All of the pc developers are very capable of providing rich server support to engine buyers and even do it your self clan servers. Lots of people actually have way better server setups than most developers actually oc3 college IT mostly lol.

This also opens the door up for an indie to try and challenge ms and sonys online setups in regards to different services.

Cable companies could go directly to nintendo and strike a deal. I'm sure next flix is there. Yet imagine your cable box being a wiiu also and the dvr with your own USB terabyte drive would be so sick! Heck sling box could get in on it also.

Google could even ride this if the right deals where made.

The investors have no idea!

KeiserSosay47885445d ago

Totally agree....Steam should jump on this one. Could be great for everyone.

LeXxXiNgToN5446d ago

I wonder if this could mean things like PS3 - Wii U Cross Platform Play. From what I under stand the reason the there was no cross platform play with PS3 - 360 was that MS ran a closed network.

KingDustero5445d ago

If Sony and Nintendo wanted to then they could easily have cross-platform play between their consoles. At least the PS3 and Wii U. With the PS4 it is another story because it may be in another league, just like the PS3 and Wii, so games wouldn't be equal across the platforms.

Anyways as a gamer I think this is one of the DUMBEST things Nintendo could have done. It really does show they don't know squat about what gamers want from an online network service. This just puts the last nail in the coffin for me. I'll for sure be passing it up now.

N4g_null5445d ago

Wow you don't know much about online gaming. Ok first the ps3 isn't going to be much better than the wiiu. Sony will be using arm CPUs or IBM again. The wiius current chip is pretty much their best unless you want a server chip in your next console which along cost $600. Then we have graphics the highest it can go is the current pc spec with the only difference being new shader operations and increasing performance on stuff like tessalation which the wiiu can do now, example the fish in the lake of the bird demo. The newest lighting tech is in there too. Sooooooooo if Sony tries to buy it's fan base again with a truely nividia like over priced console then that could be the nail for them.

Ok so back to the network. Each engines network code dies not rely on graphics if it can run at 60fps which I'm assuming the ps4 should be able to do since the wiiu can. That is all that is needed for the console to do. In it's most simplistic view. The server Handles every thing else and can even do the physics on the server side.

Right now Sony makes server for no one in the Corp market IBM does but Sony doesn't so there isn't an advantage.

You really have to tone down the Sony is god of all tech thinking because they are not. They have style and do some creative tech but they are more of a contributor than a true leader in tech and software.

Nintendo is smart they can easily pay for some one way better. And this is exactly what they are doing.

mttrackmaster385445d ago

@scissor_runner Are you from the future?

matey5446d ago

its obviously a more powerful Online than both HD twins just not offering 1 service 4 all but dont be thinking u will have to pay 4 individual accounts it wil be free but DLC will be the main money spinner 4 individual publishers and u will end up with a more robust online as publishers have had problems with Live/PSN now they can apply there best efforts with wiiu it has video chat/voice chat/so its already 1 step ahead add this with individual best efforts and u have a Unique online presence.

SpitTake5445d ago

what the fuck are you talking about? You all was pull all these facts out of your ass. YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT THE WIIU SPECS OR FEATURES STOP ACTING LIKE YOU DO.

n4gisatroll5446d ago

Seriously, it's like the ps2 allover again. I hated making a new account for each game.

NukaCola5446d ago

Should still allow you to have an online user name registered on nintendo's servers, but use it on the games. I mean the individual games have their own networks anyway. This makes me think that there will be limited online features for the console itself, and on a scarier note, what if Activision or EA have full control to were they run their games online on the Wii U fully. I don't want crazy fees on Wii U COD.

Has anyone heard if FriendCodes are still around or are they finally getting cut out of the network?

matey5445d ago (Edited 5445d ago )

Look its not ps2 all over again did that have video chat/voice chat could that display what your friends are doing online on your personal Upad could ps2 display dlc while the tv is off could ps2 play a full game on its controller could the ps2 have open online like on pc/wiiu no could the ps2 even do online properly with no lag no this is a next gen console that isnt making developers have to abide by xboxlive or psn constraints in other words devs/pubs have to make there online the way microsoft/sony say so with there closed online approach open online is the future 4 big games not oh ill have achievements on every game when only 30% of games need them if atall the wiiu is very powerfull and with video chat/voice chat/open online its already better than live oh it costs nothing and u get the best efforts fron 3rd partys as EA have stated they dont always like xboxlive features 4 all there games now Nintendo are here to end that rubbish and prove open online is better for a good relationship with 3rd partys instead of u have to do it this way if u think a console with at least graphics 5 times the ps3 will have a less powerful online presence than a major less powerful console your stupid the wii was ps2 now the wiiu's online is ps2 last time i looked at ps2 it was terrible to look at games/online/services ect u guys on here hold the ps2 in some pretty big lights its a silly comparison and i think u guys get confused with powerful and a company providing a closed network service that every game has to be the same myamoto said they are not trying to have the best online service he didnt mean our online functions will be poor in comparison but they wont offer a service thats a closed enviroment this way EA/UBISOFT/ACTIVISION ect can make online better than what they have been pushed into in the past with live/psn just with video chat the wiiu has better online

1 friend code per wiiu is what has been said so far u xbox fanboys need to stop making such strong opinions about nintendo when u dont follow whats been officially said

DeadlyFire5445d ago

Sounds alot like PS2's online to me. Although I know it will be different and enhanced a bit from a decade ago. At least that is my hope.

One universal login for every game + unified friends list + cross game chat is more than enough features to wish for for this setup. With that it won't be a burden. I would be very happy to see each publisher create their own online, but still with a Nintendo ID you have under your control. It gives developers more freedom and diversity. More diversity in an experience the more likely you are to come back to it.

N4g_null5445d ago

It's actualy more like the pc now. Ps2 did not allow user servers and other online stores. The other difference is choice. Every thing is up in the air but the chatting will be universal with video which they are working on and support for watching some one elses game is being talked about also along with semless joins right in the middle of a game.

Cross game chat etc is going to be all nintendo with the gaming part being who ever has the chops to do it better than nintendos villinia online setup.

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Bordeaux President Jean-Louis Triaud Denies Approach For Juventus Midfielder Momo Sissoko

Bordeaux president Jean-Louis Triaud has denied reports suggesting his club are negotiating a move for Juventus midfielder Momo Sissoko.

“We consider him a great player, but it’s the first time I've heard of our interest in him," he said, according to Tuttomercatoweb.

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The Average Gamer: Hands-On Thoughts About the Wii U

Debbie Timmins from The Average Gamer tries out the Wii U controller at E3 2011 and then gets a bit carried away playing the Pirate demo, I mean the shield pose demo.

"Most of the technical demos were pretty dry, as you might expect. I have spared you the video footage of me failing to draw a 70° angle, so consider yourself lucky."

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charmer5432d ago

since when have the average gamer gotten their hands on the wiiu or anyone except for nintendo knows what its truly capable of.... the only thing i will say from looking at e3 nintendo has something special on their hands

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Mario Kart on Wii U - What Would It Be Like?

MMGN writes: Mario Kart will eventually make its way to Wii U – that’s a given. But what can we expect from Nintendo when it brings its popular kart racing series to its new console? How can the gameplay change? What new features can we expect? With the new Wii U controller there are a ton of exciting possibilities, so let’s get creative and take a look at a few ways Mario Kart can take advantage of the Wii U’s capabilities.

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matey5434d ago

Needs to have real life tracks taken from Nascar/F1/WRC/Fantasy with pit stops in GP mode imagine a pit stop with Wario and team changing ur tyres WOW full body deformation ect still the same Mariokart but alot faster and harder 250cc class with 16 players online WoW a nice garage where u pimp u Kart ect Mariokart would be amazing.

jacksonmichael5434d ago

Real life tracks taken from Nascar? But... I like to be able to turn right... And... I don't live in a trailer...

pcz5434d ago

i think i have grown out of it now. Nintendo needs its own Gran tourismo or forza.

if they want to appeal to the hardcore market they will need to make a new hardcore racer, as the hardcore crowd wont be at all impressed with mario kart.

even as a fun racer, mario kart has lost its way. only mario kart on the snes and n64 were any good, the rest were rubbish. the 3ds looks set to continue the rubbish tradition... driving under water? flying? rubbish!

ChickeyCantor5433d ago

"Nintendo needs its own Gran tourismo or forza. "

I rather have F-zero thank your very much.
GT and Forza are boring. Of course thats just my opinion. I rather see them do a Burnout if F-zero wasn't their franchise.

pcz5433d ago (Edited 5433d ago )

''I rather have F-zero thank your very much. ''

Yeah, f-zero has always been a great franchise, but its still a niche title (futuristic racer.) sony could easily answer f zero with wipeout. ie the f zero experience isnt totally unique. sonys answer to mario kart is mod racers (or crash bandicoot racing lol) But what is nintendos answer to gran tourismo?

wave race and 1080 snowboarding were great because they were decent attempts at a serious racing experience, they need to bring those games back for wiiu. they need to bring a 'real car racing' experience to wiiu. Not just mario kart.

what im talking about is an actual 'hardcore' driving experience, like gran tourismo/forza. Nintendo don't have that and never really have.

If nintendo are serious about winning hearts and minds of so called hardcore gamers, they will need that 'serious driving' title. The hardcore crowd will expect it. Its a fact hard core driving titles like gt and forza are system sellers on their respective consoles, so if nintendo wants to win, it needs one. otherwise those gamers will simply stick with sony/microsoft.

are we really supposed to believe players who love the sophistication of gran tourismo, and slickness of forza, are going to be thrilled with mario kart, or even f zero? come on, get real.

''GT and Forza are boring. ''

thats your opinion, fair enough, but its not the wider opinion as sales figures show. These simulation racers are amongst the most highly anticipated games on those so called hardcore systems. People obviously enjoy them, and they have almost universal critical acclaim.

Nintendo doesn't offer an alternative to the 'niche racing title.' so we dont have any choice but to play mario kart or f zero. What if i want to play a simulation racer? simple- i cant. this is the problem.

Nintendo have realised its lack of fps games and third person action franchises has been a weakness, but it also needs to address this driving game problem, or else people are going to get their fix elsewhere.

Its the same with the fighting genre, instead of getting us street fighter, tekken, mortal kombat etc, they have given us smash bros and punchout. fine, those games are fun, but we need those popular franchises. nintendo realise this and have announced street fighter v tekken for wiiu.

we NEED a serious driving game. mario kart just isnt cutting it anymore.

ChickeyCantor5433d ago

" sony could easily answer f zero with wipeout. "

Absolutely not.
Maybe as futuristic racers, but in gameplay F-zero murders wipeout.

I understand your point, but honestly, I just can't see nintendo make a realistic racer.
F-zero GX was hard, and they should continue in that trend. Its an amazing racer.

Samus HD5433d ago (Edited 5433d ago )

they need to make it more hardcore

On Mario Kart Wii
NGamer UK was disappointed that Battle mode can now only be played in teams; no free-for-all option is offered which removes the 'last man standing' element of previous Mario Kart Battle modes - They are right

GameTrailers and IGN also commented that it is easy to fall from first place to last by being continuously attacked by several weapons, many of which are unavoidable, leading to a certain amount of luck in racing. This makes it more accessible for beginners, but can be extremely discouraging for skilled players.[24][25] GameSpot also noted that "nostalgia doesn't save most of the classic courses from being boring".[7] - right too

they need to change that (more focusing on GAMEPLAY)

charmer5433d ago

i expect all the nintendo games in hd to be something special especially the first time around