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Microsoft evaluates its E3 performance

Core gamers left cold by Microsoft's Kinect-heavy E3 presentation will come around eventually, the platform holder believes.

Xbox senior product manager David Dennis likened the response to Microsoft's conference in 2010, where critics were ultimately won over once they had a chance to try out the device and titles on offer.

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Wizziokid5447d ago

well it's nice to know someone does.

EasilyTheBest5447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

Well I love Kinect, I find it great.
Cant stop playing Kinect Sports especially Table Tennis Online. My GF loves playing the Dance games, the kids love Kinectimals.
Just bought Child of Eden, its great and prob the 1st game thats BETTER with No controller. No lag its just the best Kinect game so far.

So Im looking forward to lots of the stuff coming for Kinect.

Dance Central 2
Star Wars
Rise of Nightmares
Blackwater
Champion Jockey
Fable the Journey
Ghost Recon Future Soldier
Forza 4
Heavy Fire: Afghanistan
Disneyland Adventures
Kinect Sports Season Two
Leedmees Kinect
Project Draco
Ryse
Tin Tin
Tiger Woods

Oh and Night Springs fingers crossed.

I will wait for sum reviews and will buy all the ones that are good.
So we dont all hate Microsofts Kinect Heavy E3.

Oh and Sims, Avatar Kinect, and more Voice control for the dashboard hopefully.

Agent - hi. You have probably been coming on this site too much. Thats why I probably sound like a MS spokesperson.
So much negativity on here. Im sure 80% of them have never tried Kinect Properly.

Agent-865447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

Wow, are you some kind of MS spokesperson? You sound like an "over the top" commercial and I find it hard to believe anyone can be that excited over Kinect. Oh well, different strokes. Have fun with it if that's what you enjoy. It's definitely not what I look for in gaming, though.

Yi-Long5447d ago

... but right now, it seems MS is putting all it's focus on Kinect, while ignoring all those gamers that just want 'normal' games with a 'normal' controller.

Which is extremely disappointing. Many of us just don't CARE -at all- about Kinect. So we want MS to also come up with original new stuff that's interesting TO US.

Redempteur5447d ago

lol you're excited about disney land adventures ? what are you, 10 years old ?

gamingdroid5447d ago

Yeah, I'm liking Kinect as well and can't wait for the complete dash integration. I'm more excited for Ryse, Fable: Journey, Ghost Recon and of course Mass Effect 3. Navigating the squad with voice control is going to be a breeze. No more pause screens needed.

EasilyTheBest5447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

Yi Long.
So we want MS to also come up with original new stuff that's interesting TO US.

Why do you need MS to come up with stuff. Theres plenty of 3rd party studios doing just that. MS have a few great 1st party non Kinect hardcore games coming. 3rd party studios have tons.

Redempteur
Why wouldnt I be excited for Disney Kinect. It looks great and I cant wait for my kids to play it. They love Disney characters.
Did you actually read my original post?

Gamingdroid.
What the hell are you doing on this site actually LIKING Kinect and looking forward to future releases.
Your stupid just like me perhaps.
Have you got Child of Eden yet? Its great, best controls yet.

Yi long

Fair comment, I just find that before Kinect, Microsoft was to Hardcore there seemed like there was nothing for family etc.
Now I find that its much more evenly balanced.
But yes, a few new studios MS could do with.
I still think MS will buy out or partner up with a Japenese Studio, someone like Sega perhaps for the next gen consoles.
Japan is where they need to improve and it would make sense to bolster their IPs.

Yi-Long5447d ago

... because you do need proper first party support to keep your console interesting.

Nintendo usually has their 1st party support well in order (3rd party support less so...)

Sony has done very well too, with original diverse IP's being released quite regularly.

Microsoft started out very well when they entered the market (Project Gotham Racing, Forza, Gears, Halo, Rallisport Challenge, Fable, etc etc), but lately there really has been nothing new when it comes to original IP's, which is a shame.

I love my 360, but lately it's been relying on 3rd parties to keep my interest. Games which I can also buy for my PS3.

MS really needs to get their act together when it comes to satisfying 'the core gamer', cause these last 2 E3 presentations weren't very promising for those of us who don't care about Kinect.

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malamdra5447d ago

Kinect is to gaming what Michael Bay is to movies

Agent-865447d ago

I don't know about that. I'd rather watch a Michael Bay movie than play a Kinect game.

gcolley5446d ago

i'll pass on both thanks

JellyJelly5447d ago

As if they were suddenly going to be negative about it...

Anon19745447d ago

Indeed. I really don't see how positive PR spin is newsworthy. Really, do we expect anything else?

Kinect is Microsoft's focus going forward and this decision wasn't made lightly - or without good reason. Kinect has been a huge boost for the 360. I don't blame Microsoft for being upbeat about it. Kinect isn't my thing, but it certainly seems to have caught the public's attention and I don't care if you're a casual gamer, core gamer, hardcore gamer of if you just play Minesweeper - you're all gamers to me.

Why o why5447d ago

I think im gunna run for office......me and candystop going head to head or maybe a coalition

Isnt this the same as the other article. Either way im all spent on ms's shift. I feel like a broken record..... Time for the beta

JasonPC360PS3Wii5447d ago

MS is doing a good job with both the core and casual. They still sell more core games than anyone and their gaining on Nintendo. For the past few months they been the best selling console worldwide. Kinect is hot, and we still have Halo remake, Gears, and Forza to look forward to. Not bad for a console that sold only 25 million last gen. They doubled the install base and are now at 55 million. That's a lot better than going from 120 million to 50 in just one gen.

Why o why5447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

Damn... I didnt know the ps3 stopped selling and the gen was over....do you ever quit. Ms is doing just fine but some people who are a little more honest than you want more games to play. They'd prefer not to have 7 month gaps in exclusive non-kinect retail games especially when the underperforming company in a worst position according to you can keep the games rolling. So you go play with your calculator and ill go play with my pad...both happy

Yeah yeah, i know, teh multiplatform games...yeah

XRider5447d ago

He didn't say anything about multiplatform games other than they sell more on 360, which is a fact.

Why o why5447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

You walk into a shop with 10 quid and theres 2 cakes costing a fiver each....you get both if you like em. You walk into the same shop with the same tenner and theres 3 cakes costing a fiver each...somethings gunna have to stay on the shelf and thats probably going to be the cake you like the least. Should i break it down a little more or we good now.

I mentioned multiplatform games because thats the 2009 - 2011 excuse the same people who used to scream 'its all about exclusives' now scream. You have a skill for digging up past comments and coming to speak for jay so shoot, ...knock yourself out its all there for all to see. Did i mention you have the same traits as power of green aka the mart aka jason 360 who were all the same person.

http://n4g.com/news/145068/...
Also note how the lineup was lauded by some 360 owners and hated on by some ps3 owners unfortunately

More or we kool now

LiquidSnack5447d ago

"Xbox senior product manager David Dennis likened the response to Microsoft's conference in 2010, where critics were ultimately won over once they had a chance to try out the device and titles on offer."

No, they were won over after they were all given a free Xbox 360 slim.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio27d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing27d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9227d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit27d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing27d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9227d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay29d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn230d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn229d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown29d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay29d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay29d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac29d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger30d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300030d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde29d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde29d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7531d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_28d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.