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Saints Row 3 dev acknowledges Rockstar inspiration

Lead writer Drew Holmes acknowledged games like Rockstar's LA Noire and Red Dead Redemption as titles the developer looked at in preparation of the third sequel in the Saints Row series.

"You have to look at every single open-world game that's out there in terms of the way that they're building out their world, creating an experience and engaging people," he said.

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LOGICWINS5455d ago

Good to hear. Looking at the masterpieces of others and building upon them is the best way to push this industry forward and create NEW and even more compelling games.

Yi-Long5455d ago

... although I hope they won't ruin all the improvements with too much focus on all the immature stuff, which kinda degrades the whole experience to a juvenile level.

Wenis5455d ago

I think it all just depends on how you play. For example you could run around with a dildo bat the entire game, or you could play a more conventional way and use standard gun weapons.

beeeffess5455d ago

That's the best bit.

The Saints Row games pretty much carry on from San Andreas meanwhile GTA IV moved onto something completely different.

You're not too old to play as a naked moonwalking man with a dildo sword in his hand.

LOGICWINS5455d ago (Edited 5455d ago )

What I love about Saints Row is that its always given you the OPTION to be a jackass. Like Wenis said, you could play the game in a more realistic fashion if you want.

Btw, I got Saints Row 2 less than a week ago and I'm having a blast..its over-the-top, but it remains grounded in the real world for the most part.

I'm getting Saints Row: The Third DAY 1, but those "Apocafist" are taking things WAAAAY too far IMO. Theres a difference between being "over-the-top" and living in a fantasy world.

jony_dols5455d ago (Edited 5455d ago )

Well duh...Of course Rockstar were a massive influence!

Saints Row would not exist if it was not for GTA3 & it subsequent sequels!

nopunctuation5455d ago (Edited 5455d ago )

Very true but I think there is a difference between "inspiration" and what Saints Row does. Famous GTA clones like True Crime, Prototype, Infamous, and Crackdown offer a new twist on what a free roam game really is. Saints Row on the other hand pretty much steals everything from GTA and put a Saints Row stamp on it. Even with Saints Row 3 coming out, it looks incredibly similar to GTA IV in terms of art style. Instead of focusing on what Rockstar was doing last, why dont they take a risk and try innovating a little to contribute to the free roam genre as a whole? Maybe then they could be called a real GTA competitor like the games I mentioned earlier. Right now Saints Row is on a paper thin line between what they call "inspiration" and what anyone else would call copyright infirgement.

gunnerforlife5455d ago

did u just say INFAMOUS is a GTA Clone :/
only thing they got is open world and i really wouldn't consider that as being that much of a Clone seeing as its a Openworld is GENRE in itself, when ur talking about clones your talking about a game copying everything that a previous game has done. and i really wouldn't call infamous or prototype a GTA Clone.

LOGICWINS5455d ago

Prototype and Infamous are GTA clones in your opinion? Ummm..have you played these games before?

The idea of a superhuman in an open world(Spiderman, Batman, Daredevil, Captain America, Blade, and Superman) existed LONG before GTA.

nopunctuation5455d ago

Pretty much anything that puts you in third person on a circular/square piece of land and lets you run around killing things is a GTA clone. That is something GTA 3 did first and then every game went on to mimick it after that. Its sort of like Doom clones. FPS games are vastly different from what Doom was but they still owe thier existance to Doom because it did it first.

LOGICWINS5455d ago

@nopunctuation- I don't believe in that "they did it first, so everyone else who does something similar is a clone"

If Doom was never created, I'm 100% sure that SOMEONE would have thought of putting a guy with a gun in a videogame in first person view.

If GTA was never created, SOMEONE at SOME point would have thought of a guy in an open world causing mayham.

nopunctuation5455d ago

That doesnt change the fact that Doom was the First FPS and GTA was the first 3D free roamer (you could count body harvest but that game was terrible and so buggy that it was unplayable.). Your argument is sort of like saying the fact that they could have not existed means they dont deserve credit for what they did, which is a pretty weak argument.

-EvoAnubis-5455d ago (Edited 5455d ago )

@nopunctuation: I agree with you on much of what you're saying, but Doom the first FPS? Not only was it NOT the first FPS ever, it wasn't even the first that id software made.

Edit: This is just a sidenote, and not taking away from any of your other points. The first open world game I ever played was Legend of Zelda. The second was Metroid.

LOGICWINS5455d ago (Edited 5455d ago )

"Your argument is sort of like saying the fact that they could have not existed means they dont deserve credit for what they did, which is a pretty weak argument."

LOL, you completely ignored the entire argument that I made. I wasn't arguing that Doom and GTA don't deserve credit for being the first in their genre..I was arguing that a game shouldn't automatically be labled as a "clone" simply because its part of a genre that was pioneered by another game.

I'll put it in more simple terms so that you can better understand what I'm saying:

Just because Tomb Raider is a platformer doesn't mean that its a Mario clone.

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-EvoAnubis-5455d ago

Wasn't this kinda obvious since...oh, I don't know...Saint's Row 1?

I don't see anyone thinking they were just sitting around, chilling, when all of a sudden some guy goes, "I've got a great idea that has never ever been done before!"

Fallouts5455d ago

Lol...

I know! Don't get me wrong I like saints row and can't wait for this one.... But.....

Did they think they was fooling us? I mean damn... The reason why i was so good and and knew what button to press right off the bat was cause of gta.

just_looken5455d ago

"Rockstar inspiration" AKA If there was no gtasa/gta1 there would be no sr series the only reason these series are fun is because they copy old gta's period.

NYC_Gamer5455d ago

they stole the whole style of the older grand theft games

NarooN5454d ago

Not really. While GTA3 and it's trilogy let you do some crazy stuff, none of it is anywhere near as insane as all the stuff you can do in the Saint's Row series.

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Games with Best Character Creation Systems

GF365: "We all love experimenting with character creation to make unique protagonists. These are the games with the best character creation systems."

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IamTylerDurden11125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

Slightly disappointing game but Wo Long had a good creator. I was impressed by Oblivion back in what 05, 06? But the worst i have ever seen, clearly, Valheim.

ModsDoBetter1124d ago

What was up with Wo Long?

Not looked at any reviews and did download it on my Xbox before I sold the console but never got around to playing it. Saw it drop in price on PS5 and was thinking of picking it up.

RE: Character creation

Oblivion hold a special place for me, when it came out on PS3, it was the first game of its kind that I had played and the character creator took was amazing.

I do like Monster Hunter: World & FFXIV, personally.
Cyberpunk did good in that department, despite its numerous flaws.

IamTylerDurden11124d ago

I played Oblivion day 1 on 360 and was impressed with the creator. Damn near 20 yrs ago, it was impressive at the time. Special game, unfortunately 90% of current gamers on social media have not a clue about the older stuff. Elder Scrolls is just Skyrim to many. They know not of Gothic and the old guard that paved the way. Flimsy ass rhetoric and recycled opinions about the same bs is what garners attention. Meme culture. Insight and intellect hold no place on the current day internet. Fuck likes, follows, BS. I say what i believe is relevant, what i'm interested in, and following means fuck all bc i don't respect 99% of the ppl online anyway.

For the "TLDR" bs. I'ma not space it out on purpose. Fuck you very much folks.

isarai1124d ago (Edited 1124d ago )

Honestly the one I remember being easiest and flexible enough to make any character I imagined was the PS2 WWE games, and Saints Row 2. I did really enjoy Dragons dogmas character creation too

EternalTitan1124d ago

Where is Black Desert Online?

IamTylerDurden11124d ago (Edited 1124d ago )

I was gonna mention Black Desert but the game is horrible so...

Creator was the best part.

bunt-custardly1124d ago

Lol CP 2077 is one of the easiest and less detailed editors around. It's all a mish-mash of presets.

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jwillj2k41229d ago

Honorable mention to Drive Clubs Ferrari Fxx-K. Should be there over Horizon.

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TheColbertinator1228d ago

The Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak from the Gran Turismo series

Nissan Skyline from Need for Speed Underground

Motorcycle Steamroller from Dead Rising 3

And finally a car you never drive but saves your ass over and over : Honey Badger from COD MW2

Gardenia1228d ago

I was thinking of Mad Max. That V8 felt really good to drive around in, especially with upgrades.

dumahim1228d ago

No one liked the Batmobile in Arkham Knight. Top 10?

toxic-inferno1228d ago

I don't know... It was a strange addition to the game, and the parts of the game where you had to fight in it were tedious. But driving it around Gotham felt brilliant.

BrainSyphoned1228d ago

FFXIII-Snow's Shiva motorcycle
Persona 5-Makoto's Persona motorcycle

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Interview: Director of Immortals Fenyx Rising and AC Odyssey Talks about His Career

In a recent podcast with Wassup Conversations, Scott Phillips the director of many games such as Immortals Fenyx Rising, Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, Assassin’s Creed Syndicate, Saints Row The Third and Saints Row 4 talks about behind the scenes of those games.

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