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Carmack: id Tech 5 (Rage's Engine) Does Not Work With Open World Games

John Carmack id co-founder and lead programmer, told Gamasutra at E3 that the idTech 5 does not work with open world games, you may remember the idTech 5 being mentioned, this is because it is the engine used to power Bethesda's new game Rage.

ATiElite5455d ago

So Carmack has just informed us as to how linear Rage is gonna be. The engine looks good but hopefully they can fix it to be more flexible.

Well hopefully Carmack fixes this for ID Tech 6 cause open world games are where the fun is. Linear is no longer worth doing.

gaffyh5454d ago

Oh man, I though this was going to be open-world like Borderlands. My anticipation for this game just dropped a little.

SpaceSquirrel5454d ago

Me too. I was expecting another Borderlands type of game.

Peaceful_Jelly5454d ago (Edited 5454d ago )

the game's not gonna be open world like GTA but it's not gonna be a linear mess like COD games either...

mtm59255454d ago

Rage is going to be hub-based open world, so it's just works like Borderlands.

palaeomerus5454d ago

Borderlands ISN'T an open world. It's a big room with load-gates design with hub levels linking the dungeons.

wallis5453d ago

It was never promised to be open world. Only fuck-wit journalists who decided to write articles without bothering to do research have given it the sense of being an open world style of game.

Id have said, probably a thousand times, that it's open, but directed. You'll always know where you need to go but from the sounds of it Id are going to be giving us a lot of ways to spend our time outside of the main quest.

But I always assumed the directed yet open nature of rage came from a design choice by id. Not because of technical limitations. Which is a shame because since id tech 5 is part of bethesda's family I saw plenty of potential for its possible implementation in open world games.

We all know that skyrim looks gorgeous and that it's engine is going to be kick ass.... but c'mon? I can't be the only who hoped it was gonna get announced on rage's engine? Oh well, 'tis a shame.

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Elven65454d ago

It could be "fake open world" like the Assassin's Creed games are where they have big levels but the world itself is isolated by load points connecting them.

MisterAV5454d ago (Edited 5454d ago )

not really, rome isn't small and even venice,florence,...
maybe you would like to mean batman arkham asylum...

Elven65454d ago

Those areas usually aren't open at the same time (you're restricted) and even then, I don't see how it negates my original statement that it could be cut off. The cities in AC aren't all loaded in one seamless world after all like they would be in an Elder Scrolls game.

MisterAV5453d ago

In AC they aren't connected because it would be strange to have venice and florence at some minutes by horse...
and even oblivion has loading when you enter an house, but AC brotherhood has not. I would not call it a fake open world if it has very big areas connected by some loading...

starchild5454d ago

If you paid attention you would know that Rage was never intended to be an open world game.

It has a sort of hub world with higher degrees of exploration than is found in most shooters, but it was never an open world game.

JsonHenry5454d ago

I was never under the impression that it was going to be an open world game. However, I hate to hear this as Id Tech 5 looks like it would be a great engine to put into an open world.

Oh well. :/

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MrDead159d ago

I hope the devs can break away from MS and take their IP's with them in the not to distant future. This entire consolidation and mass industry firings that MS has spearheaded has been nothing but a disaster for everyone except the already rich creatively bankrupt tw@ts at Microsoft.

MS is nothing but a drain on the entire gaming industry and every facet of it.

1Victor158d ago

There is precedent already with bungie separating from Microsoft but I doubt Microsoft will let them go out with their IP’s without paying a huge price

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Reaper22_157d ago

Good for them. From what I hear Microsoft supports it but unfortunately it still doesnt change much but its a step in the right direction. More devs across the entire industry should do this. But regardless, you just love to hate anything Microsoft or xbox. Who's fault is it that sony closed down studios? Who spearheaded that? What i don't understand is that if you hate Microsoft so much why the concern. If this bothers you so much you may want to find another hobby. Free up some of that mental energy for your own well being and stop worrying about shit you cant change.

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Dexterio157d ago (Edited 157d ago )

@FlaggerD care to look at yourself in the mirror, obscure? It's like your 132456th account now, and all of them have you being obsessed with Sony. You just can't handle the fact they literally stomped on Xbox, LMAO! Juggernaut my ass haha. Xbots claiming Expedition 33 winning GotY is a win for Xbox because it was on Game pass is the funniest shit ever LMAO!

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blacktiger157d ago

both of you obsessed with Microsoft and Sony is embarrasing

MrDead157d ago

oooh, so many angry fanboys. You'll get over it kid.

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UltimateOwnage157d ago

Good for them. With AI coming for their jobs and their new corporate overlords working overtime to replace them, it’s a smart move.

Notellin157d ago

It won't be long before Microsoft lays off everyone in gaming and routes that money over into AI.

Time for everyone at Xbox to update the resume and start coming up with Indie game pitches.

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DarXyde157d ago

The point of unionizing is collective bargaining. Sadly, I do not believe they have any leverage, which is likely why Microsoft isn't impeding them: The investment in AI is gargantuan. We're talking about a data center in Wisconsin that's about 200 city blocks. That is massive and insane.

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