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Why Playstation Move is Better than Kinect... So Far

After watching both the Microsoft and Sony conferences yesterday at E3 (online, sadly), I came to a life changing conclusion. A conclusion so life changing, it changed my life: Playstation Move is better than Kinect. Allow me to explain.

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MinusTheBear5458d ago

Kinect is too limiting. You can do so much more with Move.

Agent-865458d ago (Edited 5458d ago )

As a PC gamer with no care about the console wars, I have to agree with you and the author. Even with all those PC hacks, I still have absolutely zero interest in the Kinect. Move, on the other hand, can at least work with core games I like. Doubt I'd buy one in the immediate future, but it is more appealing to me than Kinect.

Active Reload5458d ago

I don't even look at the two as being similar. One is a camera and the other is a controller :P

darthv725458d ago

the real limits are how creative you are in thinking of ways to use it. If you only see it on the surface then yeah...it is limiting.

I'd really like to see the stuff the homebrew side has been doing with it find its way into games. VR was always thought to be to far off but we are seeing it is just another step closer.

I dont have either so I really cant comment about how one is better than another. I will however get both at some point. I just like thinking of the potential each one can offer.

ClimateKaren5458d ago

Apparently all the developers out there are limited in their creative thinking as well?

Every time I read a comment like that, it makes me wonder of the people talking about these elusive awesome uses that Kinect isn't being used for have any ideas themselves, or are just sold on a concept. That's not an insult by the way, I was the same exact way with the Eyetoy on PS2. The idea of it was great, it presented so many unique possibilities, and then... Nothing. When I wondered why and really considered it, I came to the same conclusion that the guys who developed the Eyetoy did themselves when they took things in a different direction for the PS3, which is that a body in front of a camera isn't a viable replacement for a controller, and that the possibilities for the types of robust game experiences we're used to are severely limited with that control scheme.

The fact of the comparison is that Kinect is limited by nature, which is to say it relies on the body as a controller, where Move has a (not quite as technologically advanced) camera to track, as well as controllers to execute actions with and be tracked with pinpoint accuracy themselves. While Move still isn't doing enough to get me to buy one, it certainly is the one of the pair that is taking some sort of a step forward in controlling games. While it's starting to look like Kinect will be used peripherally in games that primarily use a 360 controller, that isn't exactly the motion experience they were gunning for. If they add specialized controllers a la Move, that will add on to the already costly Kinect experience.

EVILDEAD3605458d ago

I own em' both. And if I was to report my 'opinion' from an actual gaming site I would as well. These fan blogger speculating on Kinect have zero credibility..because they have never used it (other than at Best buy)..or played the games..and honestly who cares if they ever do. It's too late to hate..own it..love it

I spent a dumb amount of money buying both Move and later Kinect at lauch and 5-6 of the games right off the back. At the end of the day, some games work and some don't.

In regards to both Move and Kinect they are two different experiences. Both have their benefits and weaknesses.

For Move..Sports Champions by far is the best game..and hasn't been topped. I was hoping for a sequel at E3..but the developer is doing the Medieval game. Of course with first person games it makes sense to use Move. But, at the end of the day, it makes me feel Sony didn't utilize Guncon enough.because we are essentially using Move in it's place for some titles. Tiger Wood implementation was horrible..I thought MAG wasn't even close to a DS3 level experience..but Killzone 3 does work..but Move was useless with K3 co-op. At the end of the day, DS3 is still winning..even post SOCO.Mbut if you own Move why wouldn't you try these experiences as an alternative.

The MOVE suprises were the games that get no press. I absolutely LOVE Top Darts and after searching and searhing for a good dart game..TD wins the crown. Don't sleep on Start the Party as well..fun game.

But, if you have a girlfriend, spouse, kids, or have friends over for party gaming..then Kinect wins HANDS DOWN. The 360 already has shooters and we spend a zillion hours on Call of Duty, Halo etc. But when it comes to simply fun experiences even I was suprised how fun Kinect is.

Rare's Kinect Sports even outdoes Wii in fun factor for friends and family. The bowling alone dethroned Wii Sports. The sleeper advantage is that you can play Kinect games over live with friends..Ping Pong rules online!

No dancing game is touching Dance Central with a ten foot pole. Those two games alone are the reason my Wii and even my brand new Rock Band 3 with expensive keyboard gather dust over Kinect.

Fitness Evolved is so good I ended up buying 2 other Fitness games just because I love the interaction with Kinect.

Mass Effect is getting new for the voice integration..but it is the crazily underrated Kinectimals that first showed how good it could be. My nieces absolutely went bezerk when they played that game for the first time.

Motion Sports IMO was slept on as well..the football and hand gliding levels are as good as it gets. Even the horse riding had potential.

The two games that sucked hard were Games Party and that movie game.

But the game I literally have been waiting for is only less than a week later. Child of Eden looks nothing short of amazing.

Again when it comes to adding optional control to standard conntroller experiences in games..Move has the advantage.

When it comes to immersion and games that bring together family and friends..Kinect has the advantage.

As a 360 owner who already enjoyed the device..I'm absolutely excited that we get games like Forza 4, Mass Effect 3, Ryse, Fable, and EA Sports implementing Kinect. I'm all over it, when they drop.

But at the end of the day, both are good buys if you want those experiences.

Just my take..

Evil

MinusTheBear5457d ago

Sure, whatever you say Mr. Microsoft Spokesperson.

solidworm5458d ago

kinect is all smoke and mirrors.

whydoyouask5458d ago

no...that's your "Girlfriend" that just happens to live in "Canada."

zootang5458d ago (Edited 5458d ago )

We know who does the industrys leading genre best. FPS's with move feel like you are using an air mouse. Kinect is just embarrassing with "Jazz Hands."

DiRtY5458d ago

kinect rapes move in every aspect.

doG_beLIEfs5458d ago (Edited 5458d ago )

Specifics please, details and elaborate on every aspect you speak of. All I see is smoke and mirrors with a Wiilike waggle waggle WITHOUT the wiimote.

Still waiting DiRtY....c'mon put your waggle where your kinect is....bring it.

Love the disagrees Kinectbois....they taste sooooo yummy.

IAmCornHolio5458d ago

Waggle is the wii concept where you shake the remote around instead of press a button. The Kinect has no such concept. In fact, the Kinect rewards you for being still, which is pretty much the exact opposite of the wii waggle.

Do you consider yourself sufficiently pwned, or should I continue? Naw you are insisting the Kinect doesn't work as advertised. LOL.

So I raise you, glowing ball reflection that you have to look at on every Move game ever.

DiRtY5458d ago

- games
- 3rd party support
- sales (userbase even more)
- App-integration (Hulu, Netflix, Zune, Last.Fm, Avatar Kinect, MSN chat, ESPN)
- Dashboard integration
- industry impact

FriedGoat5458d ago

Thats the funniest thing i've heard all day.

Joni-Ice5458d ago (Edited 5458d ago )

Yup especially with that Sesame Street game. Thanks to the power of Kinect I can be Elmo.

Brixxer6005458d ago

I bought 2 move controllers on launsh and haven't played any games with them since that week , motion control gaming just isn't my thing , i am however intrigued by Kinect and it's voice recognition , could be really good in RPG's

doG_beLIEfs5458d ago (Edited 5458d ago )

Funny thing, voice recognition is mostly SOFTWARE and Sony has had it on the PS3 SDK's for over 2 years now. I will give MS this, they know how to push a gimmick with clever marketing and lots and lots of money behind it.

So you mastered Sports Champions then? You must be a genius, because I have been playing it almost every week and I still have not gotten better than 3 under par on 18 holes. The slightest change in release point, angle and speed means you watch your frisbee bounce right off the metal basket or clink the chains as it flies past the cup and into bogieland.

Or in Bocce ball when the tiniest little spin gives you that little edge to give you that win. Where the winning ball is .001 feet closer than your opponents is.

That is what I love most about Move, the PRECISION is unmatched in motion controls AND it is true 1to1 with no lag.

You cannot say that for wiimote, wiimote+ and ESPECIALLY kinect.

@cornholio....you wrote

"Waggle is the wii concept where you shake the remote around instead of press a button. The Kinect has no such concept. In fact, the Kinect rewards you for being still, which is pretty much the exact opposite of the wii waggle.

Do you consider yourself sufficiently pwned, or should I continue? Naw you are insisting the Kinect doesn't work as advertised. LOL.

So I raise you, glowing ball reflection that you have to look at on every Move game ever."

Sigh, waggle is in reference to the mindless swinging, flailing of arms to get the needed response out of a game with little precision and accuracy. Try waggling with Sports Champions and see how far that gets you.

Funny thing, the glowing ball does not bother me, and actually I think its kinda cool.

Please by all means, pwn me some more...and rejoice that I cannot respond to anymore of your epic pwns of me.

/s

Brixxer6005458d ago

I never said that i had mastered Sports Champion and i am not saying that i wasn't impressed with the tech , what i'm saying is that Motion Control gaming just isn't for me . I never once saw any lag while using Move but i also don't see anything to keep me coming back either.

I will agree that MS knows marketing and to be honest it's the voice recognition aspect of ME3 that interested me the most , probably enough to buy Kinect jsu for that , stupid i know but i like my games.

Agent-865458d ago (Edited 5458d ago )

@doG_beLIEfs, I remember seeing a comparison video of guy playing ping pong on the Wii and the Move. He then used the "waggle" technique with them both and the results were amazing. You can actually win a Wii ping pong game by just waggling you way through while, on the Move, he didn't score a single shot. You actually have to swing like a real paddle with the Move....waggle and you will lose.

MysticStrummer5458d ago

@Agent - Yeah, the precision of the Move is what jumped out at me when I saw both Move and Kinect in action side by side in Best Buy. Move impressed, and Kinect barely functioned. Maybe it was the lighting or something, but Kinect was having a hard time detecting movement at all. I can't even recall what the Kinect demo game was, but the Move demo was ping pong.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio20d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing20d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9220d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit20d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing20d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9219d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted22d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8522d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele21d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk21d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay21d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10122d ago (Edited 22d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit21d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg21d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10121d ago (Edited 21d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14922d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay21d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn222d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn221d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown22d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay21d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay21d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac21d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger22d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300022d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde22d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde21d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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