No

Have you ran out of news to write about for hits.

yeah it such a secret that only microsoft themselves would believe it. only thing i cant wait to play on xbox that i cant find anywhere else is gears 3.

I stop reading at sarcastic

No they secretly failed

Yep, MS's conference had nothing impressive to begin with.

I am secretly a superhero.

HAHAHAHAHA!

Read the article and it makes perfect sense. I however disagree that MS "lost" and rather had the best entertaining conference of the 3.

Bring on Gears 3 (highest selling new IP franchise this gen with the highest rated average this gen)

Bring on Forza 4 (highest rated racing franchise this gen)

Bring on Halo: CE Anniversary (where perfection of the FPS on consoles came from and started the exclusive #1 greatest franchise the gaming world has seen)

Bring on ME3 with optional Kinect support.

Bring on Ghost Recon with optional Kinect support.

Bring on The Witcher 2

All this and some of the best multiplat games by some of the best multiplat developers in the world crammed into 2011.

It's great to own a 360 and a PS3. So much variety and options.

As always ... The kiddies on this site sound like well .... A bunch of kids.

Yes, MS won from a business perspective. That should be obvious.
Kinnect Disneyland and Sesame Street will be huge for selling tons more Kinnect to all the parents for their toddlers.
Dance Central 2 and Kinnect Sports 2 will continue grabbing casual to buy Kinnect.
And games like Mass Effect 3, Forza 4, Ryse, and Ghost Recon are meant to appeal to the Core to buy Kinnect.

Besides my opinion as a core gamer that this was MS's worst E3 ever ... From a business perspective ... They won. Kinnect Disneyland and Seaman Street will see to it.

fascinating,
reading this article was like watching the "Paul McCartney is Really Dead" video, you know it's full of sh!t, but you find it interesting none the less

NO. It's not about selling COD or Kinect, it's about having great games for your fans! All the hundreds of millions spent on Kinect garbage could have been a dozen AAA games or a xbox handheld. Sad!

This is equivalent to Ferrari completely switching to compact fuel efficient cars rather than exotic sports cars. Yes they would make more money but they would give up what they are known for. Look at it however you want fact is MS abandoned those who made them who they are. They went from Halo and Knights of the Old Republic to Sesame Street and Disneyland.

well microsoft might win sales to be real becuz mothers and fathers will buy those games for thier kids us real gamers wnt spend our hard earned cash on garbage we rather real games and quality we wnt buy kinect either untill sumone brings something interesting mabe that crytek game but we will hav to see and btw its not enuf to make us buy kinect were quite comfortable playing out ps3 and resting the 360 till gears 3 and halo ce hd

Win what? Candy, a car, win what!? It is a presentation event not a contests.

Microsoft is abandoning the gamers to make more money.......AGAIN. Not sure why anyone is surprised. Sony and Nintendo try to keep their core gamers happy while Microsoft sit jumps to the next thing that could make them cash while trampling everyone to get there.

Microsoft in the many years they have existed are exactly tthe same as they always have been, bulldozing through everything without a thought for anyone. There basically tossing core gamers the scraps while focusing on Kinect. Disagree with me all you like but it's happening just like everyone predicted it would.

No, they openly lost it.

they lost but 30s are selling like hote cakes because of that stupid kinect device and its the truth. kids love it well kids also love justin bieber which goes to say kids like stupid stuff so oh well.

They did win ~ secretely haha

From a gamers point of view, they have not "won" e3 for some years now.

Yah, MIcrosoft secretly announced their next gen console to have DVD9X2 with 17G capacity :)

PC and PS3 gamers now have a new ally to help kill asap this stupid DVD9 thing that Microsoft seems to still keep it for a couple more years with their super ultra Xbox360 console.

Hopefully the 3rd party fevs around the world will soon start saying F U MS and just make games for more powerfull plataforms with less problems with content size capacity.

The answer is an emphatic NO. Move along folks. Nothing to see here.

Short answer: no.

Long answer: they stuck with their current model of providing for casual gamers with the Kinect. Unfortunately, those of us keeping tabs on E3 aren't casual gamers; most of us don't care about new Kinect games, so their current model is a failure.

nope. sony won it. straight up with their games n PSVita

NOOOOOPE! Nintendo yet again SHATNER!! on MS and Sony with the WiiU

I going to wait until E3 2012 before I make a call on who "won" E3 2011.

Seems like the authors point is a safe bet. I mean last year MS got trashed for their E3 presentation. What happened since then? Their sales went up. Nintendo basically told everyone the Wii is dead and a YEAR AND A HALF from now we got somthing better coming (I know its a estimation, but I would think holiday season next year). MS can certainly take advantage of this. Sony could too,but its pretty clear they are more interested in making everyone adopt 3D. Both of them could also easily have a new console ready to go by the 2012 Holiday season. I think Nintendo screwed up showcasing this thing so early.If its not coming this Christmas, keep it under wraps.
So the hardcore feels brushed aside somewhat about MS. We are a fickle bunch, so your going to have some of that anyway. I do not get upset when I see "My Little Pony" games alongside somthing rated M. There is a market for both and a healthy casual market means more R&D for more adult oriented games.
His point on the handhelds was a good read too. With smartphones doing bigger and more games, they are competiton. Do they have triggers,dual sticks,etc? No,but games are cheap,more plentiful all the time,and people have it on their person anyway.

No.

Did Microsoft secretly win E3?
NO. They publicly lost E3.

NO

they shouldn't even have showed up. Pretty much a giant waste of all that free money they make on Xbox Live.

Kinect this Kinect that...some horrible acting Kids pretending to have fun playing Kinect, Gears 3 Halo 4 Goodnight everyone!

No won win E3 the only thing I saw from MS press conference was disappointing. Cause all they show is their casual games and kids games which is good cause Xbox 360 doesn't have any fun kid games. The only three good games I see they show is MWF3 Fable Kinect that's bout it cause everything else kinda sucks even though their making and showing more Kinect games.

I think most people are being very short-sighted.

To me the biggest potential win for MS is live TV. Cable is a huge business. If they can snatch just a portion of that away from the cable subscribers, they will win big. Live has more subscribers than any of the major cable providers. Comcast has around 23 million. Live about 30. If they get the content holders on board, MS could become the largest cable provider in the US. Add Skype and you have video conferencing, video voicemail and telephone service. They would own the living room.

Also think about the fact that everyone is looking to move productivity Software to subscription based services. Add all of the things above to Live, plus Office and Zune Marketplace and everything most of the family wants is in your 360 for less a month people are paying for those services now. Also the author is exactly right about the mobile market. Look at what Vita will probably offer and then look at Nvidia's Tegra 3. It's running video at 1440p and computer games. And that releases this August. In two years Tegra 4 will release and be even more powerful.

I will also say that Nintendo has something that the others have needed with that new controller. The perfect device for RTS and strategy FPS's. You could set waypoints in strategy games. Have maps of the board to mark the area a enemy is in or to direct teammates to in FPS multi-player. Quickly mark mortar strikes in COD. Manipulate the board in Ruse. That controller has a lot of possibilities.

I am pretty sure that Microsoft does not give a shit of what Sony fan boys think on a Sony driven site & forum

i think all three sucked because they only revealed action/adventure games and fps....what happen to rpgs?

An opinion, but not correct.

Yes, in the short term MS may be keeping their share price steady and keeping the greedy little wall street morons happy, but the fact is the people who actually buy games (males 14 - 40...give or take) don't like their direction and will slowly bleed away to PC or Sony.

So, short term gain, long term pain. If you think that is a win then you need to learn a bit more about business.

I believe that I'm as hardcore of a gamer as they come. I read comments and articles on this site every day since the site was launched years ago. I haven't commented in a long time because I think that it's just a bunch of fanboys voicing their ill-informed opinions for the most part. I find it hilarious to read and entertaining. But you know, I thought I would give my thoughts. I have been gaming since before there were graphics. When you played games in DOS and you had to type and the program would type back to you. My father worked at IBM and atari 500 came out and intellivision, Caleco Vision, etc was released, my family was first to get it along with all the games. When arcade games became popular my dad would drop 2500 dollars on an actual arcade game and put it in our game room. I remember playing Kings Quest and thinking it was the greatest game ever. I grew up to be addicted to video games. I was more of a PC gamer than a console gamer, though I bought every single video game system ever released and bought games every single week. I make good money :-). I had 8 computers networked in my house and I was constantly upgrading them and would invite friends over to play multiplayer games together. I currently own 8 xbox 360's and 2 playstation 3's, a wii along with all the other consoles I have collected over the years. Which console do I prefer? Xbox 360. Why? I believe Microsoft got it right with the online and Kinnect. I do wish they would have more exclusive games but, I can't blame them for staying true to the blockbuster games that are proven. I believe that Microsoft knows what most gamers know who own all 3 systems. 3rd parter games look and play better on the xbox and their more fun to play on xbox live. I'm just being honest folks. I but all the Ps3 exclusive games and I buy all the xbox exclusive games but ALL MY 3rd Party games are bought for the xbox 360. And I believe Microsoft knows that's the case for most gamers. In the end Hardcore gamers win because if you are trully a hardcore gamer, you have both the ps3 and the xbox. Why do some of you care so much about which console has the most exclusives? That doesn't mean that more people will buy that console. Remember, most hardcore gamers buy both and do like I do and buy the games we want for which ever console. And in my book Microsoft wins the bulk of my dollars and it's not because I'm a fanboy. It's because I'm a gamer with lots of money to spend and I have a deep and rich background in video games. I LOVE VIDEO GAMES.

It really is dumb to say anyone won E3. We are talking about items that are several months away and will undergo many changes before they are released. It is one thing to talk an item up and show a slick demo or video in a highly controlled setting and yet another to have a completed product in the hands of the public. I was at E3 and while impressive, Microsoft offered more of the same and nothing really that new and groundbreaking.

I thought all 3 were a bit underwhelming. I was kind of excited for the WiiU but after seeing it i just can't get into it. But that may change, Microsoft's and Sony's were what I thought they would be. I did like the price for Sony's new handheld.

Consumer perspective is what is important for us gamers.

Yes, from a business perspective (profits etc) MS have done well, and is important as profits usually brings more games, but those profits have not turned into more core exclusives.

MS failed big time from a core gamer perspective.

im not even gonna read the article, it looked long and i know the answer

microsoft would have had a better show if they had just walked a whore and a donkey out and gave both the donkey and the whore $20 and told them to go at it

No...they did not.

I think we need to remember that thinking in the sense of winners and losers. Gamers see it as loosing them not dollars. MS never had me. Ninty only appeals to my inner nostalgic gamer. Sony pressed the buttons I want tapped but I cant in good conscience say that this dude lays it all out as clear as can be. In the money world. They put for the best effort for maximizing their potential $$$'s They arent putting up risks like new hardware. They are bolstering support for a device that is already making them money so everything from here on out is more than likely profit and MS is just weathering the popularity storm to make back what($$$)they lost by wining the hardcore(losing them now imho) and come out with solid profits from their Xbox division for once. Working in Corporate America, this thinking and business logic isn't uncommon.

Smart article. Contrasting from the consensus is difficult and bold but refreshing to see an intelligent,well researched argument from a gaming journalist.

Before folks who don't know me here on N4G jump on me and call fanboy or any of that crap need to know.. I personally only own a Wii and PS3 but i'm grown enough to concede a valid argument. That is all

As far as games I WANT TO PLAY. Sony owned E3 this year.

The WiiU is epic

Msoft just hasn't figured out what product to copy and barely change next :P

Well written article, and I think they nailed it.

1, Nintendo fooled me once with the Wii... Not again with the Wii-U.

2, I'm one of those gamers who abandoned the DS and PSP in favor of iOS games. They might not be of the same graphical quality of the dedicated handhelds, but you can get very good games at a fraction of the cost.

3, MSFT won over hardcore gamers early in the cycle and continues to provide hardcore experiences (Halo, Gears, Forza, exclusive early maps for CoD, etc). At this point in the console's lifecycle, if you haven't bought a 360 for hardcore games, then there's not much they can do to convince you. But what about the casual gamer, the young gamer, the children who, in 2-3 years, will be ready to step up into the next cycle? Kinect -- Star Wars, Disneyland, Sesame Street -- is going to help MSFT make a run a the lead in this gen. Who is gonna buy a Wii now?

Many on this site won't / can't see that this article actually....makes some sense. MS didn't win E3 for Fanboys for sure...but in the real world...they did well for themselves

ok I did read the article and the author highlighted some relevant points.

anyone over the age of 10 and with half a brain knows that MS are all about money and short term gains ..hence them being known as M$...rushed faulty hardware...aiming games at the biggest share of the market rather than taking risks and being creative...neglecting their user base and switching to casual towards the end of the consoles life except for a few safe bet hardcore titles. i think this is why so many people who are passionate about games would like to see them brought down a peg or two. not necessarily because we are passionately loyal to any of the rival companies, but because of the lengths that MS will put money making before anything else to the extent that game development suffers. they also lack the finesse and design skills of other companies. They are like the gaming equivalent of holiday apartment time-share salesmen.

Implying it's a contest and that conventions have winners. So many people on these boards are idiots.

Crap. I should have known it was Sarcastic Gamer. The response was something that the site usually generates.

MS always secretly wins.But it's very clear that this gen is winding down in preparation for new consoles.
The "real" winners are third party devs,so many high quality games.I really don't understand how some people can say that this is a meh E3...best one ever,if you are not a Wii gamer of course,that was a bit sad to see