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Microsoft at E3: Reality Bites

The really juicy bits of E3 are over, and it seems that of the three platform holders, Microsoft has been universally voted down into third place. Whilst watching their press conference, we could tell what the reaction was going to be, simply because of their focus on Kinect titles. Regardless, the consensus is that they failed on three fronts.

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Urmomlol5436d ago (Edited 5436d ago )

They have Forza, Gears and two Halo games.

Yup, they abandoned the hardcore. Gamers are morons.

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perfectCarbonara5436d ago (Edited 5436d ago )

They had that last year, and the year before that, and the year before that, and the year before that.

@ sin151

So Mass Effect voice control and GR Gunsmith mode now means that those games are exclusive to MS ?

Minecraft is on PC, Halo CE is a remake (or should I count Shadow of the Colossus and Ico remakes as new Sony exclusives now)

Sony showed live demos of the PSVita packed with kickass features at an awesome price, a cheap ass 3D TV deal. Dust 514, StarHawk, Sly 4 Move control for Bioshock: Infinite, Ruin with hybrid PS3/PSV gameplay, Uncharted: Golden Abyss

lol, Gunsmith mode, who's gonna waste their time with that nonsense, we're gamers, not S.A.S operatives that care about the inner workings of a rifle. You'll mess around with it for five minutes, then play the MP for a week and then bury the game forever.

WTF are you talking about !?

MariaHelFutura5436d ago

3 games every 2 years IS hardcore, but not for the right reason.

Godmars2905436d ago

Fable might not be on rails but there's more than likely tons of auto-locking and homing shots. One of Forza 4's most talked about features is Kinect integration and head tacking. Meanwhile Halo 4 (5 and 6) was literally just and only announced with no hint of features. You really want to bet that Kinect wont be one of them?

They haven't "abandoned" hardcore, but they want them to buy Kinect. They want you to buy the console, buy XBL Gold and buy Kinect. Defend MS all you want, but those are facts.

gamingdroid5436d ago (Edited 5436d ago )

"They haven't "abandoned" hardcore, but they want them to buy Kinect. They want you to buy the console, buy XBL Gold and buy Kinect. Defend MS all you want, but those are facts."

Because Sony doesn't want you to buy PSN Plus, PS Move, PSP Go, PSP Vita, or any of their 3D Tv's specifically the new 24" $499. Heck, they don't even want you to buy any blu-ray movies.

Nintendo definitely do not want you to buy a 3DS, Wii or even the Wii U.

What's wrong with a company wanting you to buy their stuff?

I would question a company's management and it's existence if it was the opposite. Making products that nobody wants!

Upbeat5436d ago

Well for a start I got bored with his sarcasim 5minutes into reading it, and then I noticed WOW he is a fanboy and closed the window. ok Microsofts first hour or so was great with ghost recon on kinect i was very impressed with, But when they where talking about kinect for the rest of the show i was like fs, and that disney game? ok its for familys and what not but making a big deal out of it being an exclusive was just winding me up to be honest. And then i seen a game with Big Bird and im like fuck this im going back to playing halo 3. which i did btw, think this Years E3 was great for sony, and Its no ones elses fault for microsoft having a lack of exclusives this year. OK GOW3 and HALO4 are massive but i mean how long can microsoft keep launching these two Epic Hits before it just becomes lack of imagation?

dkp235436d ago

Ya, not sure why people think MS abandoned the "hardcore". People are just black and white, either it is hardcore or casual and you cant have both.

Obviously you can as MS has audiences in both the hardcore and casual in addition to including some of the kinect features in hardcore. If you want an example of abandoning hardcore, look at Nintendo.

Pyscho_Mantis5436d ago

hmmmm how many games is that for next year ummmm 1...Not to mention we knew about three out of four games way before. Microsoft has nothing other than Halo,Gears, Fable and Forza which they cant just milk. It was pretty synonymous, over at GTTV, IGN and all of youtube that M$ blew it big time...

Inside_out5436d ago (Edited 5436d ago )

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I predominately game on the 360 the most but overall I was a little disappointed in the show.

There was a lot of information missing. It was kinda like they are holding back and following the script they laid out before Kinect was announced and it was steady as she goes with Kinect extending the life cycle of the 360 by a year or so and that brings me to my main point that...

...2012 will bring the introduction of a NEW xbox...no doubt about it. This was the kind of show where your saving all your information for a later date. Window 8 is, according to people who follow such things, a 2012 launch. Where was all the skype stuff, more than one person raised their eyebrows on that one. Spend 8.5 billion dollars on ANYTHING and you would here something about it. Windows 7???...Mega Meshes was a big demo...nothing. They are changing the discs...nothing...NOPE, they will do the same thing they did in E3 2010 and that is release the " NEW " console the same year it is announced, just like the 360 S. Halo 4 will be a launch title for the new console. This way the competition is clueless about it specks and how they will compete with it.

I think Sony had the better vision for the next 12 months. Their handheld is at least twice as powerful as the Sony 3DS, they will continue to push 3D gaming and they hope the PSN hack is behind them.

Nintendo has some gaping holes. They are releasing games on 3DS and ignoring the Wii itself. I didn't know if the hand held screen was the console or not till after the press showing. Nobody still knows the exact specs of the thing other than it will be similar to 360/PS3...just a mess to me and those Japanese guys should just hire a English speaking mc and be done with it...as funny as it was to watch them make those funny faces...O_o

ArBilly5436d ago

This guys missed the point. He has an entire list of games, saying "Microsoft didn't abandon the hardcore," but almost every one of those is multiplat.

I remember back in 2007 I had a stack of great 360 console exclusives, just begging for my time. Games that I couldn't play anywhere else, except maybe if I had a high end PC.

Now I go a year between buying games for my 360 because there aren't any I want to play. I don't trust the hardware because I've had so many die on me so I buy all my multiplats on the "other" console. That leaves me with Gears. Then a year. Then Halo. Then a year. Then Gears. Then another Halo. (I'm sorry, I'm not a racing fan. Forza does nothing for me - and actually looks cartoony in-game in my opinion)

When it comes to console exclusives, other than Kinect titles - they've all but disappeared for the 360 in the past few years and when a decent one comes out, like Alan Wake - hardly any 360 owners buy them. They're so busy buying nothing but Gears/Halo/COD.

No wonder Microsoft has abandoned the core gamers looking for casual bucks. So where do the core gamers now turn for exclusive, new IP's? I know where I went.

Redgehammer5436d ago

It could be argued that you are missing each others point. I agree that there are plenty of excellent sounding games coming out for my 360, why do I need a new console for a few more? My 360 is an investment that has brought good times and laughter to my home and that is never a bad thing. However, I do acknowledge that there are countless permutations of what hardcore can mean to someone. Our's, just are not the same, and that is ok.

As far as the main article is concerned, I agree completely.

gamingdroid5436d ago

Now, what I see is MS is 100% behind Kinect, not some half @ssed last minute showing of a device that seems to get half @ssed implementation.

This is what you guys/gals been clamoring since early this year when Kinect was release, and now you got it... but the tune has changed!

iHEARTboobs5436d ago

@Urmomlol
"They have Forza, Gears and two Halo games.

Yup, they abandoned the hardcore. Gamers are morons. "

How about something different?

strickers5436d ago

4 games over 2 years?When do you think Halo 4 is out?late next year I'd guess.

iHEARTboobs5436d ago

I'm not saying that it's too soon. I'd just like to see more variety.

Kon5436d ago

well said Urmomlol, well said

rob60215436d ago

They used Forza And gears last year though at E3. Why is it ok to to delay games so they can reuse them at the show for another year.

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prodg525436d ago

What's the deal with the new tv service. I can't find any info on it.

Wikkid6665436d ago

Not really a new service. Just means that they are working out the details with more cable providers to offer the service in the future. MS will never offer cable service directly... they will just allow you to connect to IPTV that is available by the cable provider in your area.

Already offered in the US by AT&T and has been available in the UK for years by Sky.

Burning_Finger5436d ago

Microsoft should just stick making windows for PC.

Moentjers5436d ago

They do have great other software that most on this site probably never won't use.
MS Dynamics CRM ? Sharepoint ? TFS ? Project ? SQL Server ?

NotoriousWarrior5436d ago (Edited 5436d ago )

@ Urmomlol you are the moron with people having an issue with MS. the 4 games you listed are coming throughout 2 years and if you are alright with that then thats fine but no one is a moron for expecting more games.

Those games will be good but for 2 years if those are all MS can offer as their own exclusives then people should demand more.

Forza 4 just looks like 3 and one halo is a remake. im not saying thats bad but what is MS thinking.

and I wanna buy a 360 but so far MS has given me no reason other than Halo 4 but thats one game and around 16 months away from release and i wont buy a new console and pay for live just for that.

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KMxRetro5436d ago

Three of the four games you listed, are out by the end of the year.

What should they have done? Created another first person shooter to compete with CoD, Battlefield, and every other game that was shown at E3? How about a platformer? No, can't do that...platformers are "for kids" after all. Driving game that beats GT5? Done. Sequel to Rez? Done. Every big third-party release available for their system? Done.

I don't know what people actually want.

etowntwo5436d ago

I only own an Xbox and even I can say that it just plain obvious that the 360 needs more core exclusive and they really let me down at E3 this year.

Not that PS had a much better E3 showing cause they sucked too, but if your a gamer, you already know PS3 has a ton of exclusives now and coming of every genre out there.
Sly and Dust are just two examples of genre's that MS lacks ... A kiddy platformer and a MMO.

Mottsy5436d ago

Well said KMX. And thats exactly how ms and sony think. they know all the 3rd party coming out. they would be crazy to compete with those. and just bad business. uncharted 3 has as many sequels as gears. MGS is about as many as Halo. Thats how game company works. when you hate,hate, hate your just screwing yourself over as a gamer. this who's stick is bigger then yours fight as gone on long enough.

KMxRetro5436d ago

etowntwo - You're right on the MMO front. MS could do with an MMO, but not Dust, which looked average at best.

As for a kiddy platformer, they've got Rayman Origins heading to the system by the end of the year, and a fair few platform-style games kicking around on Xbox Live Arcade. Hell, given that only about four people actually bought Banjo Kazooie on 360, they could re-release that if everyone's desperate for something along those lines!

bestofthebest5436d ago

microsoft is slippn they have a good online system but they need more exclusives.

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7512h ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

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Xbox Game Pass Ultimate Price Update

Starting today, Game Pass Ultimate drops from $29.99 to $22.99 a month. PC Game Pass will also drop from $16.49 to $13.99 a month. Prices may vary by region.

Beginning this year, future Call of Duty titles won’t join Game Pass Ultimate or PC Game Pass at launch. New Call of Duty games will be added to Game Pass Ultimate and PC Game Pass during the following holiday season (about a year later), while existing Call of Duty titles already in the library will continue to be available.

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Neonridr5d ago

can't wait to hear how this is spun negatively.

darthv725d ago

Its nice there is some kind of drop... but is that all they really value CoD to be, a lousy $7 a month?

I was hoping it would drop by $10.

MisterBoots5d ago

That $7 equates to $84 per year - which is more than COD new ($69.99 + tax).

So - you can get the exact same thing - and save a few bucks - or you can skip COD and pocket the savings or use toward another game - or games if on sale.

That’s how I’m taking it - and is enough for me to sign back up after canceling the day it went to $29.99.

fr0sty5d ago

It's unlikely that COD is going to be the only title they stop offering day one, but we'll see how they play their hand.

VenomUK4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Including Call of Duty in Game Pass is just leaving money on the table. When the Elder Scrolls VI releases hopefully Microsoft doesn’t launch it into Game Pass. Then it can make more profits and use it give more value to Xbox console owners!

1Victor5d ago

Can’t wait to hear how this will be spun extremely positive. 🤣
I wonder why knowing Microsoft thick head something must has happened in the background in the levels of Xbox one and Kinect 🤷🏿

fr0sty5d ago

Any price cut is a good thing in this day and age, but it also reveals a flaw in GamePass' design that we've all been calling out for years... it's unsustainable, especially with day and date releases on new games. COD won't be the only game they exclude, they're setting a precedent with it that they'll likely expand upon in the future.

At least they're being realistic about it now. I bet in the future we're going to start seeing them try to subsidize the high price of new consoles by making you buy 2-3 years of gamepass with it to get the console cheaper. I'm still not sure that'll be enough to save either the hardware or gamepass, but we'll see.

Neonridr5d ago

price cuts are good, the removal of Call of Duty is clearly something they are planning to leverage. But considering everyone around N4G claims Call of Duty sucks, it's not a big loss now is it?

LucasRuinedChildhood5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Well, they're removing their biggest game from being Day 1 on the service so GamePass users can buy it instead. That's the intention.

They increased the price to $30, then removed COD and dropped it to still be above the old price.

It's an understandable compromise but the consumer Ultimately is getting less.

Think the calculation is that *most* COD users don't play that many games and aren't interested in GamePass. The GamePass users who do like COD would just buy it anyway. MS reportedly lost out a lot of money last year putting COD on GamePass.

Bathyj5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Well Call of duty could just be the beginning. What other games can they trim from the service to get the price down? How long before it's just the Xbox core first party studio games and not the one to everquired?

Create an interesting scenario with Call of duty as well. Will people wait a year to play it? Does that split the fan base? Will it hurt to Call of duty more than a benefits Game pass? These are all legitimate questions which we will find the answers to in the coming years

And I don't consider my post negative spin just realistic observation. At the very least this backtracking can be seen as an admittance that the previous strategy of gamepass was not sustainable as most of us said.

darthv725d ago

I'd get rid of the EA and Ubisoft+ too. That should bring the price down more. The only game from either of those parts of the service i played was jedi Fallen order / survivor. both of which i also bought on disc so it was more of a convenience i didnt have to put the disc in to play when i was playing them via remote play. And really that is why i still use GPU and PS+. its the convenience of having the games ready to play from a remote location. I havent picked up my consoles controllers in at least a few years. I guess that makes me a bad gamer, but so what. i'm still playing the games, just not physically on the machines themselves. GCloud and Portal are my go to now.

GhostScholar5d ago

They’ll say no one is buying game pass so they had to drop the price , even though it’s been extremely profitable.

Outside_ofthe_Box5d ago

Why remove CoD if it's *extremely* profitable then? Why even increase it to begin with?

Outside_ofthe_Box5d ago

Always funny seeing those that defended the price hike go "how you gonna spin this now!" after the price drops.

You should be thanking those that called it out. Obviously this is a good thing especially with everything increasing nowadays.

Also, what happened to the reason why that the Activision acquisition was good for gaming was that CoD would be day one on GamePass? Another backtrack on that I guess...

What removing CoD on GamePass shows, is that it's not sustainable for for the more popular and/or bigger budget games because of the sales you lose out on like people have been saying since inception. It never made sense to put CoD on there unless you thought it's popularity would draw in a lot of subscribers which it obviously didn't. And if it was as sustainable as people claim they wouldn't have increased the price while putting it on there in the first place.

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KicksnSnares5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

New Xbox Boss the 🐐?

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Vits5d ago

In my region, it’s still more expensive than it was before the last price hike, but it’s a far more viable price point.

Losing Call of Duty from the service, honestly, has zero effect on me, and given they chose to make it so, it’s probably not the big seller they originally thought. Overall, it’s really good news, but I still think they have work to do on the tier structure, having Premium and PC at the same price point with different features feels odd.

Lightning775d ago

Yep take COD out. Them waiting a year is interesting but it make sense. They don't want certain ppl waiting 4 to 6 months they want fomo and maximum sales. Wait a year while the new one releases.

Ok so far so good.

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Starfield Was the Best-Selling Game in the US Following PS5 Release

Senior Director and Video Game Industry Advisor at Circana Mat Piscatella has revealed Starfield was the best-selling video in the US based on dollar sales for the week ending April 11th.

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jznrpg6d ago

For the week that nothing else of note launched.. I’m sure it will sell some copies but look at what released that week

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z2g5d ago

It’s not a requirement to buy games every month or whenever one is released. I don’t think people are going to spend $70+ on something they don’t care about.

GotGame8185d ago

I have talked about not being able to get into this game at launch. I still haven't given it another go, even though I think it looks great and has come a very long way since launch. Some people just want it to fail, even if it is a great game. I know why, we all do.

Starfield didn't just have the best sales for a week, but it was pre-ordered on PS store, with very nice numbers. I really need to start it again, on my PS5 though. So I can see how it is now. It has had some major updates.

I am looking forward to it all over again now.

Huey_My_D_Long5d ago

Its not that people want the game to fail. Its that Bethesda wont ever improve their games if you guys keep calling slop like starfield great games. Pure as that. Formulaic, chasing the trends, slop.

Like Bethesda has fallen off since FO4.

Ive a PC 4070, no interest in Starfield since the beginning since despite Bethesda owning some serious FPS legacy within their ranks...They just like seem to hate good shooting mechanics.

I dont see whats the appeal and thats ok. But how can you guys call it great? By what metric? The story? The Gameplay? The package all together? Hell I'm enjoying Crimson Desert, but I've got my issues with some design choices, but I do think the game is better as a whole than its individual parts. Is that the case for Starfield?
To be honest alot of you starfield stans dont make a great case for yourself, since I've never heard a starfield say what it is they enjoyed about it other just it being another Bethesda game that feels familiar yet new to them. Yall dont make the case on whats so great about starfield that keeps you coming back.
What does it do that makes it great that everyone like me is missing?

Like I wanted to like the Starfield, but after seeing its first trailer, it pretty much came out like I thought it was. Bethesda has been coasting off prestige for years now. and honestly starfield is proof of that.

CrimsonIdol5d ago

I'm fine with the game being janky Bethesda-core etc. For what it's worth it's more polished than previous games have been and the shooting mechanics are fine, feels pretty good even.

What I'm not fine with is it just being completely dull in every way. Even if they managed to resolve the structure of the game constantly sending you back and forth through maps and loading screens it's still going to be dull. The original The Outer Worlds did Fallout in space better, and that was hardly perfect (I haven't played the second one so I can't comment on that). At least The Outer Worlds had some interesting characters, enemies and locations. Starfield has none of that. They can argue that it's more grounded/going for realism or some nonsense (yet it's still doing Star Wars/Firefly style space travel) but it's fundamentally dull.

I dropped loads of money on a copy of this game at launch and I've no desire to get my money's worth out of it, I pretty quickly cut my losses and moved on. I don't know what happened to the writers for Bethesda, I presume they all moved on and have since been replaced by Jenny from accounting.

sweatyrich5d ago

I agree with @CrimsonIdol
I played the game to completed, but it's version of NG+ simply didn't appeal to me, so I never went back to it.
There's base-building, but it really serves no point, other than, there's base building. If you're into that, you have it, but I didn't touch it at all, as it wasn't part of the story ... At all.

The main character models are "ok", but the NPCs are just bad.

And IMO, people shouldn't be OK with a Bethesda game being janky. They're a big company, and should be jank-free by now!

MrBaskerville4d ago

I've given it another go and with the new more modular difficulty i managed to balance it a bit like Stalker 2 and it has been a lot more enjoyable this time around. The free roaming in space also helps a bit. Still prefer older Bethesda games, but it's growing on me
ever so slowly.

Jin_Sakai5d ago

Curious gamers. They’ll soon find out soon enough how trash it is.

Reaper22_5d ago

I dont think so. The games has been well received on PS5. Getting good scores too.

Jin_Sakai5d ago

Digital Foundry showed how bad the game runs even on PS5 Pro and crashes. It can’t even hold 60fps and not a looker to begin with. 🤷‍♂️

Grilla4d ago

I found out. I loved FO4 and wanted to judge Starfield for myself. I should have waited for a sale.

Putte5d ago

It's still as Bad as it was on Xbox. Of cause some playstation user's are curious and because there is a lot of them then the sales are gonna be somewhat okay for small time period. But still a very sad story what starfield turned out to be. Maybe the biggest disappointment in my gaming life.

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