Basically, the motion control parts of either MS and Soby are always laughable, it's just that MS focussed on kinect for the majority of it. It's a peripheral, it shouldn't take centre stage, but that's their big push now so I won't expect anything different in the future.

Nintendos show to loss that's for sure.

It was sooo bad i decided to quit watching it and left my 6yr old nephew to it. He loved it. Glad i got my ps3.

Who wrote this I believe he will be dead or fire at least .

But come on that not Microsoft conference that was kinect conference .

Very normal and excepted and touching bad level.

Sorry.

pretty sad for 360 fanbois. but i heard they love disney and justin beiber. so it's fine. for them.

I sat down to watch it pretty hyped. But oh my God I was so so so dissapointed. The minecraft announcement made me think ok this could be good but upon reflection I'd prefer with a keyboard and mouse still.

Now I'm not a gears fan so that didn't bother me, Would of loved some gameplay from forza but no just more CG....

BUT then those words a new trilogy I sat waiting thinking "a new IP?!?!?!"

No.... more Halo.
Its not that I dislike halo but would of been nice to see something fresh..

Oh well there's always next year....

It's like the author is reading my mind...

Yeah it was very awful IMO. I like gears and halo but xbox needs something new and kinect games for children isn't it. I play most multi plat games on my PC so pretty much gears 3 and a halo 1 remake will be the only games Im going to be playing for the next year and a half on my xbox.... :( which just sucks and makes it hard to even keep paying for an xbl live gold account.

Neither of the halo titles are using kinect. I do think this article hit it dead on. Kinect and move would be ok for casuals and th wii proved it can be done but the gaming industry as a whole is moving away from motion controls and I know ms knows this but they will loose too much to can it so they are investing more and trying to force it on us. Ms will ned t wake up soon or buy more studios or games and start taking care of the controller market as I said the future is there and they stand to loose big with this as kinect was not necessary and in then end will endup a forgoten mess writeen off and pising off shareholders and keeping ms from ging foward as they need to. Just my opinion. Sony is supporting both and has the studios to do it so if the go down with move it won't be the billions ms will loose but the future is not kinect or move and someone is goling to loose big and if anyone buys these on rail games that are core franchises it will be embarrasing.

Microsoft treats you like a bunch of 3year old children,..

There is a lot of kiddy ass shit in Nintendo's camp,.. but even nintendo aims at at least teen market and not infants,..

Elmo and Micky mouse,.. that is what you apparently want and need according to MS,.. I am sure you will get teletubies next,.. So you can dance in front of tv's like a bunch of retards,.,.

I actually felt sorry for presenters (I know they are paid actors,.. but that shit was downright degrading) I actually felt intellectually offended 20minutes into preso or even sooner))

Don't worry MS & Sony conference kinda sucked!

It they had them I would Buy an EA & Ubisoft console..

we should stop to log into xbl ..or just dont turn on the xbox for 2 week...we should do something a sort of strike to make understand microsoft that we want CORE GAMES..without kinect..or at least that u can use for a different type of gameplay..like the move in virtua tennis...killzone ecc ecc (that with move is unplayble but anyway!)...IM HATING U FOR THIS E3 microsoft....

MS's show was good until they show kinect exclusives.
Sonys show was started slow, the got really good, then slowed down the got good at then end.

Man that's actually a good idea. We gamers should create like some kind of facebook group or event and gather millions in it to show MS enough with this BS.

i dont care..i dont need to compare the shows ..i would see what i must expect from my console in the next year..and im seeing well ok forza 4 that is great.....and all the other things that we already know will come ...all the new ip r just for childrens...when on ps3 there r stuff didnt showed at e3 like last guardian..agent........we was waiting to see what could be this new game from crytek thinkin "ok this MUST be a CORE game!..one for us..the base of the xbox"...and what it was...a on rail movie with some stupid movements in front of the tv?..cmon..star wars?!?!?..im got both consoles..but on here as u seen i always defend the xbox..and microsoft..but this time..they just pissed out from the vase........no one should shame it

@superlupe...im with u...vincenzo greco (italy, agrigento) on fb

I haven't seen much I've liked at E3 this year. So far the only trailers I've thought wereany good are:

Deus Ex CG trailer
Hitman: Absolution CG trailer
Assassin's Creed Revelation CG trailer
Need for Speed: The Run

As you see a bit of a trend there, almost all CG trailers. I was not impressed at all by Battlefield 3. The tank mission was long winded for no real reason, plus the more I see the less I think of the graphics. Lighting in city environment looks well fake. BF3 multiplayer footage was a waste of 49 seconds of my life, you couldn't see what was going on at all.

Dead Island continues to look pathetic, sub 5/10 if you ask me. Driver San Francisco looked alright but the trailer was annoying. FF XIII-2 CG trailer was one of the worst trailers from Square ever. Mass Effect 3 looked good but boring, Skyrim looked good but boring, MW3 looked good but more of the same. Dust 514 looked interesting but unoriginal, certainly doesn't look AAA quality. I could go on but I can't be bothered.

Vita looked good on the plus side, and PS3's 3D TV sounds awesome and super affordable even if it is a small screen.

The Microsoft's show was awfull, and looking back to how hyped i was for this i feel really stupid and deceived.
The show started really well with Modern Warfare 3(didn't expect to like it as much, dammit Infinity Ward..), Tomb Raider(really cool didn't expect that) and Gears of War 3(which was AMAZING, thank GOD for Epic if not for them Kinectimals 2 would have been presented instead) and Forza 4 so far so good from that point on the amount of kinect time was really disturbing.

45 minutes of kinect??? I don't have anything against kinect(I own one and love it) but i was waiting for something new for it like Rise of Nightmares or Draco or Steel Batalion and why oooo why was Ryse not presented??? Istead we got to se the same crap kind of kinect promoting we saw last year or even worst...(the football scene from Kinect Sports 2 was HILARIOUS many gifs incoming!!!)

Also Halo CE Remake not being showcased... Come on!!! I am a Halo fan and was at least hoping for that. WTF???
Halo 4 was AWESOME announcement but was leaked some hours earlier.
Overall very weak press conference, i would argue this was the worst i have seen in recent years from Microsoft even worst than last years(mainly due to the expectations everyone had). It started strong and ended awfull(except the last minute teaser of course...)

Also Sonys press conference was aufull also! Only Uncharted 3 and Resistance 3 being something worthy and then Vita. I was hoping for Battlefield 3 presentation.

EA's conference was by far the worst in recent times especially considering the amount of content they had to show. Where was Battlefield being shown on freaking consoles? Why is there a 10 minute walkthrough of tank gameplay??? Sure it looked near photorealistic but with the game being showcased on a 2000$ PC it was obvious it would look that good.

Thank GOD Ubisoft's conference was entertaining and had CRAZY presentations. Far Cry 3 ROCKED and Assassins Creed was AMAZING!

Now it's left to Nintendo to show us their next console and i sure as hell hope they do a better job than the others with theis presentation.

I watched both Sony's and Microsoft's yesterday. Neither was bad, but I didnt see any OMG moments. MS had alot of Kinect talk and Sony was pushing 3D at about the same level. Actually that new 3D monitor that allows full screen spilt screen was the coolest thing I saw yesterday. Unfortunatley im not sold on 3D. After seeing a few of the newest movies in 3D at the theater (like Pirates of the Caribbean), Im not taken away by it.

i'm not that impressed with E3 yet hope nintendo can change that

kinect is like Justin bieber. A success for NO reason it sucks. Ms should have shown footage of halo ce remake, forza 4 and halo 4 that would have made their conference a LITTLE more interesting instead they decided to focus on kinect. DAMN! why didn't they invest their money in making another lost odyessy, blue dragon, killer instinct, jade empire, project Gotham racing, banjo kazooie, perfect dark ,kameo or alan wake. these guys actually have IPs(like I just stated above) SO THERE IS NO REASON FOR HALO EVERY YEAR!!(fable fails by the way lost odyessy was a WAY better rpg) not saying its bad just saying that Microsoft can do MUCH better they already have ips they just refuse to use them.

kinect is a kids toy. M$ should have known that only hardcore gamers watch E3.

Happens to us every year guys, we expect this awesome show.. Just to be disappointed by our own expectations

I agree, still excited for new halo games and gears though. That's my bread and butter.

Being 100% Honest..

I liked it

+New Xbox Live Features
+New Halo and Halo CE Remake/Remaster

I still dont understand why anyone is really surprised by all the Kinect games and Apps that were announced when MS stated end of 2010 that 2011 was gonna be all about Kinect, what did people expect them to do Release Kinect and then abandon it, gonna pick up a few of those games when they are released.

Overall It wasnt the BEST but for what they had to show I liked it.

"So developers have had to think ‘Okay, well, there’s no need for Kinect here. What we’ll have to do then is find ways in which we can use it that aren’t needed, but that will persuade people who spend a hundred and fifty bucks on it that it’s not completely useless.’"

For me this sums up why Kinect fails. But people are stupid and will buy a lot of things just through advertising and not research.

"This is what Kinect is forcing games to become. No more thinking, no more skill, no more intelligence required; just flail your arms roughly in time with the action and you’ll get through it when the device finally cottons onto your intention."

Edit: It seems the author continues to express my own concerns.
"Because when exactly in the Star Wars films or TV series does a Jedi say ‘Lightsaber on!’ to activate his Lightsaber? Perhaps the Jedi used to, but then so many of them died because their saber didn’t understand a Kashyyykian accent, that they eventually relented and reverted to a button. Because a button always works. A button knows what it is you’re trying to do."

I have to agree with the 360 magazine, Microsoft loss touch with the hardcore gamers, something Nintendo did with the Wii and now they are going set to get the record straight. What Nintendo cause mess up this generation of gaming. Why Microsoft and Sony had to copy the Wii? Just look the result of it. The Move is just a secondary motion controller that just as gimmicky as the Wii controller for games. This what will extend the life of game systems? I don't think so. Microsoft and Sony should of left the motion gaming alone with the Wii. Well it didn't effect PS3 as much with the hardcore that still deliver, but it just a secondary device that not needed. Kinect overshadow everything on Xbox Live to the point of no real exclusives. Rare had to cancel Kameo 2 and Perfect Dark 2 for this sh*t. Whatever happen to Killer Instinct 3? Fu*k motion control gaming!!!

Oh boy these articles ar gonna bug me...

They have the ability to launch great titles but instead are placing 50% of their hopes in gimmicky Kinect titles and hardware. Its annoying to see so much time spent on something that could be explained rather than shown in demo that went on for far too long.

Most gamers haven't jumped onto the motion control gaming scene yet. They need to really stop force feeding Kinect down our throats. E3 was always about the games. They need to go back to that focus point.

I'll use this comparison again...Going from great games to Kinect titles or motion-controlled games in general is like going from Las Vegas to Epcot.

Brutal conference. Kinect this and Kinect that. All on-rails rubbish aimed at the disabled. Seriously, who buys this rubbish? The only good thing in the entire conference was the Kinect scanning. Though I remember buying a 360 to play games, not to scan teddy bears on to the screen. Kinect is a gimmick but MS are not to blame. The idiots who buy it are.

Gotta agree after nintendis show just now.. MS just lost the game.

The worst? hardly because last years was worst than this years...

This was definitely MS's worst E3 showing.

Mind you, I wasn't that impressed with Sony's showing either.

Overall, this E3 was just dull for me. Battlefield 3 is keeping me interested but I think its time for MS and Sony to jump on the next-gen bandwagon.

for me personally.. (maybe I don't speak for most "hardcore" gamers here), but for me, when I have an evening or a saturday all to myself I wanna RELAX and GAME IT UP man.. and by that I mean, play videogames until my eyes hurt. Throw on some comfortable clothes, have cold beverages and some snacks nearby, maybe order some take out, the whole nine yards. I wanna pull the shades down, dim the lights, sit in my awesome comfy chair, crank the surround sound WAY up, and pop my favorite digital masterpiece into the console disc tray.

What I DONT wanna do, is stand up for a 4 hour stretch flailing, waving, and jumping like a madman in the confines of a 3 foot area in front of my TV. Again, maybe I'm missing the mark here, but I tend to think most people who truly enjoy videogames wouldn't want to spend their precious gaming moments doing that stuff either. And I wish Microsoft would take notice. Just in case they are reading now, I'll say this:

Dear Microsoft,
Videogames are the lazyman's sport. The millions of loyal customers who have been there since launch and have supported your online service with a yearly fee, and continue to buy into franchises like Gears and Halo are Lazymen. Please continue to make more games that feature full dual analog control-pad integration, from which we can plant our rear ends on the couch and absorb ourselves into immersive worlds with complex and deep storytelling, breathtaking visuals, and solid controller based gameplay. If we wanted to go bowling with a pet tiger and a cute avatar, we'd all have run out and bought a Wii... but we didn't. We bought an Xbox 360. And we want GAMES not GIMMICKS.

So I guess I'll be logging more hours of gaming on my Ps3 this year, huh?