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Activision's Actions Are An Attack On Gamers: COD Campers Ruined FPS

JI writes: "Activision has long been the source of controversy in the game industry and Call of Duty is known to many gamers as the first series to encourage camping on such an epic proportion. Camping and stat tracking are ruining First Person Shooters and Shooters in general as they cause players to rely on exploits and design flaws. Activision's latest business moves including the Call of Duty: Elite service have been an attack on gamers worldwide and the results of their actions in the long term for the industry will be widespread as they are the top dog being looked up to in the shooter genre financially."

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SpaceSquirrel5343d ago (Edited 5343d ago )

I'm starting to think MW3 won't outsell black ops

BeastlyRig5343d ago (Edited 5343d ago )

it will! But if they mess MW3 up then I think this will be there peak.

lol infinity ward isn't making multiplayer? wow..
Raven Soft made Singularity..

sledgehammer games started in 2009 and MW3 is their first ever game I think..

hmmm

It seems they have three dev teams working on the game not because they want the best game possible but to make sure it's out the door on time meaning a lack of man power.

I could be wrong though.

Trunkz5343d ago

Your not wrong BeastlyRig, Medal of Honor failed because of that. DICE even tho they had fun trying something new should of stayed out of that area and just kept working on BF3.

I got suckered into black ops and stopped playing after a week (too much like the others, I skipped MW2) so -1 sale from me, +1 sale for BF3.

Commander_TK5343d ago

While the camping is unfuckingbelievable in MW2 and Black Ops, there is way more in BC2 and MAG.

MaxXAttaxX5343d ago

COD player: "There's a camper behind that wall"
BF player: *boom* "What wall?"

Good times, good times :)

duplissi5343d ago

commander, nathan put it so succinctly... camping isnt really an issue in bad company because you can easily get the drop on them and blow their cover away.

SilentNegotiator5343d ago (Edited 5343d ago )

...except when they hide behind indestructible crates and barely poke out to shoot your head off with an automatic sniper rifle.

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sikbeta5343d ago

It'll outsell black ops and that elite rip-off will get them more millions and maybe, by the next COD (next year) Activision will rise the price and people will keep paying, COD will be remembered as the Most milked out franchise ever, but nothing last forever...

Saladfax5343d ago

Activision's pretty good at running things into the ground.

Guitar Hero?

Tony Hawk?

lil Titan5343d ago

uhh i could have told anybody this during the FIRST COD, thats why i like Battlefield bad company. they CAN hide but you can make sure they wont hide in that same place again..Blow up there hiding spot

Hitman07695343d ago

I'm starting to think (once again) that Call of Duty will some day be the next Guitar Hero...

RIPSKATEDESTROY5343d ago

its closing in on it as we speak

tigertron5343d ago

Heres hoping; Kottick will run the franchise into the ground.

soundslike5343d ago

They are an "end-game" company so to speak. Milk it dry and find a new cow to drain.

From a business standpoint, its very effective and its hard to blame them for making enough money to buy and election, but...

from a gamer standpoint its discouraging. We need more David Jaffe's, Naughty Dogs, and Cliffy B's (yes even him), so that one day unless your company is run by gamers themselves, it will fail.

BenEViolent5343d ago (Edited 5343d ago )

Naaaah. Theres one CoD a year. And, there was multiple Rockbands and Guitar Heroes a year with nonstop DLC and new plastic instruments to buy.

Going downhill....? ... Maybe?
Going to disapear off the face of the Earth like RB and GH?.... Naaah.

Mikeyy5341d ago

I agree, just look at madden. see you all in COD 3534534.

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retrofly5343d ago (Edited 5343d ago )

I'm starting to think, people need to get out more and stop worrying about COD.

It's just a game guys.

I just listened to the poscast and got irritated within about 10 seconds, these guys have no clue what they are on about just spouting crap about everybody it seems.

Trash.

The Meerkat5343d ago (Edited 5343d ago )

Its not the campers that ruined Call of Duty.
Its the low heath bar.

In most FPS games if you get hit you can react and escape if you are good enough.
In COD even the worlds best player can be killed by a NOOB with 1 or 2 shots in 1/4 of a second.
That is a fertile breeding ground for campers.

Thats why NOOBs don't like Halo. Because its very hard to get kills compared to COD. But then that's what makes Halo more rewarding.

Unfortunately NOOBs have money too and Activision know how to get that money.

blaziliuz125343d ago

well said man,completely agree with you.

antz11045343d ago

Don't get me wrong, I agree.

But you have to realize that Modern Warfare, MoH, ect are trying to be more realistic shooters. So it would make sense that a double tap to the chest would drop someone.

killerhog5343d ago (Edited 5343d ago )

Modern warfare (cod) is the least realistic fps game. Seriously tired of you guys who never held a gun or been in combat thinking COD is realistic. Please don't get me started on why that game is the fakest amongst fps games.. Even though you obviously cannot mimic real life in a video game others do it better than cod.

By the way, you do know that in combat soldiers wear bullet proof vest or at times full body armor right? So 1-2 shots won't drop you unless a head shot or a critical spot not protected.

And last time I checked in cod you can run with an lmg, rocket launcher, full body armor (yeah that pushing for realism)

Barely to no recoil
No gun waving
1 shot sniper kill regardless if not a headshot
Crazy acrobatic movement with gear/weapons that should slow you down
Guns doing kills in distances only a sniper rifle should

The list goes on

duplissi5343d ago (Edited 5343d ago )

... realistic!? the game is as arcade like as it gets in shooters.... sure it may look realistic but thats it.

edit: well said killerhog, as someone who serves (army national guard) i know how cumbersome that gear can make you and cod is nowhere near realistic.

Mikeyy5341d ago

@killerhog

Yes the Kevlar vest will stop a Standard 7.62, you will still be on the ground with broken ribs, and be in the hospital for a month.

In the video game world, you might as well be dead.

Killzone3___5343d ago (Edited 5343d ago )

i hate halo because of the gameplay , it's boring and nothing hard in it , it doesn't have alots of things , you can't even run .... halo is not hard , it's easy for me , the gameplay is soo easy , anyone who play it will play it just like best players in it... cod have alots of things but it's gettting old that's why -({some})- hate it ...

halo sucks and overrated , i dunno why people still like to play it , it feels the oldest game ever , even mario doesn't feel older then halo , but gears is a hard game and for hardcore players , i love it , gears 3 looks amazing ...

At the subject , campers isn't a problem if you are a good player , you may have some problems with them at first but if you are a good player you will know a way to trick them ... if you hate campers then you are sucks , by the way , i never camp , i always attack , attack will make you kill alot more then camp , when i attack i always kill 30-40-50 and even 60 in team deathmatch .. yea , im a good player and i understand how the gameplay is in cod ... :)

if you say cod always have the same gameplay then look at all the sequels , they always have the same gameplay with only few things added to it but the rest of the game have alots of new things like maps ..etc

Mikeyy5341d ago (Edited 5341d ago )

@The Meerkat

Everything you say makes 100% sense in writing, and is completely Logical.

But Then I'd Just introduce you to my friend. He simply does not die in COD. It's sickening.

I'm a believer, an insane amount of skill makes you bulletproof to noobs.

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Fishy Fingers5343d ago

Never had an issue with campers, especially in COD where killcams and small snaking maps make them very easy to deal with. Infect in a combined 1000 hours or something since MW I have very few issues with what, according to the Internet the game is plagued with, campers, hackers, glitches etc.

Elite, well if your not keen on it, like me, then, like me, don't buy it. COD is the number 1 franchise at the minute so I understand to a point, but the consistent moaning about everything COD related isn't going to change squat.

radphil5343d ago

"but the consistent moaning about everything COD related isn't going to change squat."

Then we might as well consider gaming goodbye if consumer complaints aren't worth it. Just let companies walk over consumers.

Fishy Fingers5343d ago

Eh? Every year it's more complaining yet every year COD is the biggest/most successful game, that shows consumers are voicing their opinions with their wallets, no matter how much you may dislike it, it's up to people to enjoy what they want, the complaining changes no opinions. Buy something else and enjoy it, there are other options.

radphil5343d ago (Edited 5343d ago )

" it's up to people to enjoy what they want, the complaining changes no opinions"

This is the thing. If there are no complaints on said product, then there's no reason for them to improve, and at that point, that just means people are paying for little to no change. You would be repaying for the same thing, with little to no change, at the same price.

You may not think that it doesn't affect you, but past situations shown that it does. The rise of DLC abuse, the rise of "Passes".

The reason why I complain about the game, is that I want to see it improve as a series for the better, not ride on the name and fame of CoD4. I don't want to see them oversaturate the series each year and turn it into what Guitar Hero has turned towards.

The problem being, is for the past 30 years I've seen how companies acted from the start of the gaming industry, to now, and quite frankly there's so many shots as far as what companies are taking, that it's actually not good for the consumer on the overall picture.

theonlylolking5343d ago

Most people do not camp in COD. The people who do have a issue with campers should be checking there corners instead of running through the battlefield like they have star power on.

antz11045343d ago

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Anon19745343d ago

It's about time someone said it. I'm not a camper, but I am a cautious player. You know what's ruining FPS's for me? Players who all charge towards the choke points, die in 3 seconds, get 1 kill and then do it again like mindless drones. That killed Gears of War for me. Playing Gears, damn near every match I tried, everyone ran to the center, had it out with shotguns and the match was over in 60 seconds. It was like fragging for kids with ADD. I couldn't stand it. Unfortunantenly, I've seen that type of behavior time and time again on team deathmatch in COD, and if you hang back or remain cautious, kids start yelling "camper!" at you.

To me, a game of cat and mouse where you have to use caution, stay hidden as you move about and remain alert is 100 times preferable to the frantic "Everyone rush the center" matches COD often devolves into. Of course, simply trying to remain hidden while moving around will still get you a camper label by the kids out there.

That's why I quit playing COD, other than matches with my buddies.

evrfighter5343d ago

You know why they tried to be rambo?

Because their are players that can rush the middle and decimate 3-4 ppl before they die. It's a huge momentum shift and can change a losing round into a winning round.

These console kids I'm sure have seen it somewhere and are trying to copy.

Me I'm a big fan of 1v1 moments. Shooting someone in the back doesn't challenge my skills in the slightest. I sometimes run around shooting off my pistol to make sure people know I'm around to test my reaction time against players who get a jump on me.

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Kotick claims lawsuit objecting to MS-Activision deal was "tied to Embracer's desire to boost sales"

Former CEO describes lawsuit filed by Swedish pension fund as a "collateral attack" on Activision Blizzard.

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OpenGL1d 4h ago

Yeah, the Microsoft deal has DEFINITELY worked out for everyone.

galgor1d 1h ago

Can this mother fucker just get lost already

PRIMORDUS1d ago

He belongs in here ⚰️, hopefully sooner than later.

MrDead8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Kotick Made $155 million from MS in the buyout, the little b*tch needs to stop whining. Thanks to this Microslop deal and massive industry consolidation thousands upon thousands of devs and other workers lost their livelihoods. This greedy piggie pervert needs shut up and f-off.

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Microsoft needs to listen or risk irreparable harm to Call of Duty

Windows Central: "The money may keep rolling in, but Microsoft is the custodian of one of the biggest selling video game series in history. If something doesn't change, I fear we'll reach a breaking point and irreparable damage will have been done."

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StoneTitan51d ago

Because ms is so good at managing studios, surely they will get it right

:P

franwex51d ago

In my view, they should probably merge MP with Warzone and essentially make it free to play like Halo Infinite. The campaign/zombies mode can be $30 yearly DLC. I know this would be insanity as most COD players essentially pay the full price of the game simply for the MP. However-with a shrinking player base they may have to consider it. Making it free would bring in a ton of players.

Profchaos51d ago

To late MW3 should have been a lesson but here we are two years later with a steaming pile a shite called blops7

bsingle4051d ago

Nothing lasts forever, eventually something will come along to make people forget about COD

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1Victor51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

@Oumba:”We’ve heard that story many times before 😂”
You know what we seen many times good franchises been run into the ground by bad management like h___o , f___a and most of the sports game oh I forgot the dynasty warriors
Oh forgot to say
Happy thanksgiving to all the N4G members
🥳 🍗 🦃

MDTunkown50d ago

Halo killer once arrived and technically call of duty killer also arrived, its name is Fortnite

dveio51d ago

Call of Duty was riding the revenue horse and charts for ~20 years. Whether undeserved or deserved.

But I endorse everyone to remind you that Microsoft could have decided differently when they took it over.

The money was certainly there, and they could have taken their time revamping the franchise:

Current-gen tech, manageable microtransactions, not imitating Fortnite and returning to core values of the franchise's origin.

They didn't.

Let's see next year. Hopefully without the then 13 years old PS4 and One hardware.

blacktiger51d ago

you need to stop saying "let see next year"

XBManiac50d ago

dveo is an alias of Phil Spencer?

XBManiac50d ago

dveio is an alias of Phil Spencer?

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Xbox May Update: Retro Classics Come to Xbox Game Pass, PC Gaming Updates, and More

A variety of new updates are available this month across the gaming platforms. Coming today, Retro Classics games are available to play for Xbox Game Pass members. Players who stream on the Xbox app on PC now have an additional streaming option with GeForce Now. Game Bar introduces quick settings, visual updates for Widgets in Compact Mode, and coming soon, Microsoft Edge Game Assist, an in-game browser that brings an immersive game-centric experience to Edge. And Xbox gift cards can now be redeemed for any amount via Xbox Rewards.

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darthv72240d ago

While i appreciate the gesture.... all of these retro classics have been made available everywhere else. I am hoping to see some other Activision properties make their way out of the shackles of the 5th, 6th and 7th gen. Licensing be damned... bring back the Transformers Cybertron games.

P_Bomb240d ago

Love the Cybertron games! TF games have been shit lately. Would love to see that era revisited. I even did the multiplayer!

MrBaskerville239d ago

Is the retro classics for all consoles?

Obscure_Observer240d ago

Metaphor on Gamepass just announced! O.o

Seriously, this is the best generation of Xbox ever!!!

We can´t catch a freaking break from awesome games arriving all the time!!!

Deathdeliverer240d ago

It’s a HELL of a game. If you like JRPGs in the family of Persona, you will be in heaven… that is until you hear the various battle music…. then you’ll be somewhere BEYOND heaven!

babadivad239d ago

Just finished Clair Obscur. This should be fun.