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Next Xbox: What’s Microsoft Waiting For?

Geek Revolt writes "Project Café will have an E3 2011 reveal, and yesterday it was confirmed that Sony is planning their next console. So this leaves Microsoft in an awkward position—while the competition is already talking about the future, they’re remaining silent. Here are a few reasons why they should hurry up and announce something—and one reason it might be “wise” to let Sony & Nintendo come to market first."

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Winning5480d ago

They may pull a fast one and release something with Nintendo. Or before. Microsoft is the type of company that just cannot sit by and watch competition bring out new items.

DeeZee5480d ago

Yeah that wouldn't surprise me. Everyone thinks they won't announce something new at E3, but at this point it would be almost dangerous to just sit there.

darthv725480d ago

a partnership with sega. One can only dream for sega to come back into the console fray.

Yeah I admit it...I'm a sega fanboy above all else.

tehpees35480d ago

what possible reason could M$ have to show their new console before Nintendo? they seriously aren't planning to beat them to market? the power of the hardware alone would cause major problems for it and failure rates would be higher than ever before

KeiserSosay47885480d ago

@ Darth

A partnership with Sega would def be too awesome. However, I really don't see it happening. It seems about as plausible as MS adopting Blu-ray discs. I would totally buy that console though.

EVILDEAD3605480d ago

This is the year that Micrsoft can reap all the rewards of Kinect and a popular system priced for the mass market.

Nintendo will only ANNOUNCE their system at E3...but it won't even have truly playable games. a launch line-up, or a release date until NEXT E3..

Which is when Micrsoft (and Sony) can announce their next system and pull momentum from Nintendo's launch.

Micrsoft is in a really great position right now and unless Nintendo announces something that can't be done by the other consoles.Project Cafe might not even be close to a success that Wii had.

Evil

DigitalRaptor5480d ago

That partnership isn't happening darth.

Can you comprehend how much a slap in the face that would be to current PlayStation and Nintendo gamers who have supported Sega in the past?

And Sega is a company to maintain their own artistic integrity. They make so much money from third party software on the other two platform holders that it's not even worth hoping for. Not worth it for Sega, and probably not worth it for Microsoft.

AAACE55480d ago

@Darthv72... As much as I used to think it would be a good idea for MS and Sega to work together, it just doesn't seem like a good idea!

Sega is basically dead! We are nostalgic about them, but they have nothing interesting for gamers. I loved Shen mue, but the fact is, it didn't sell. Sonic games haven't been performing well. Virtua fighter and their other games go largely ignored!

Sega would be as much a burden as having Rare!

What would be great is if MS keeps the IP from Rare and get rid of them! They could get some more creative talent on their roster for a cheaper price!

Rare has close to 200 people on staff, yet they can only get out 1 game every 1-4 years, while other developers have half that and get out a couple high quality games in that time frame.

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fluffydelusions5480d ago

Been saying the same thing. MS won't sit around while Nintendo bring out something new and likely more powerful. I would not at all be surprised at a new xbox announcement this year with a 2012 release.

Shok5480d ago

Microsoft did say that they want the 360 to last just as long as the PS3, but that idea might've changed now. No way they're going to release something in 2012 - they just started hiring engineers for the 720 late last year. I expect an announcement next E3 and release in 2013.

Or, they could do the Microsoft and rush it for a late 2012 release, but the console would be so rushed that it would have more problems than the 360, and I'm sure they don't want to do that again.

OC_MurphysLaw5480d ago

Rushed? Do you think that just because they are not talking about it they are not working on it? Seriously? They probably began specing out new machines the year after launch. In fact it probably was kicked into high gear after the RROD situation was dealt with.

This E3 will be 100% about software... next E3 MS will announce the new console and depending on how they are doing sales wise they will either have it ready for 2012 holiday launch or hold off until sometime 2013.

Shok5480d ago

"...just because they are not talking about it they are not working on it? Seriously?"

Um, what? I just stated that they started hiring engineers for it last year......I just acknowledge that they ARE working on it lol.

OC_MurphysLaw5480d ago

@Shok... hey my dad. I totally missed your comment regarding the hiring of the engineers. Now, one thing to keep in mind again...just because they listed those jobs doesn't mean they just started to work on the console. I am sure MS has had engineers working on it well before those announced jobs.

Persistantthug5480d ago (Edited 5480d ago )

Long story short, Microsoft doesn't have the same capabilities as Sony regarding hardware. They don't have the same leverage, the same facilities, they don't have the same engineers, or the same know how, and it will take Sony at LEAST 2 years to make a new console.

You might believe Microsoft can do it, but it takes a HUGE endeavor, and even if it was possible to get a new console out by 2012 from them, I don't think I'd want it, considering we've seen what happens when they do try to go against a clock.

2013 for XBOX 3 is my prediction.

Edit in...there's also another thing I wasn't gonna bring up...but typically, a good sign to know when it's time for new consoles.....

It's when PC's are able to emulate them.
That hasn't happened yet, and we are a ways off.

fluffydelusions5480d ago

360 is basically just a PC in a custom case. New xbox will probably be the same thing but of course upgraded specs. Wouldn't take long to slap some new parts into a case and there you have it.

yamzilla5480d ago

they need to have it out this year

damn console games are slipping so hard into the jurassic era

720p or less
jaggies
pop-in
25 frames per second

-shudder* gross

Hitman07695480d ago

They sit on their hands while Nintendo drops an Xbox 360... LoL . I would like to see their next box soon as possible too.

pepsilover_20075480d ago

They are probably waiting because they just spent millions on kinect and they probally dont want to waste that investment by have a new console out

fluffydelusions5480d ago

Kinect is a usb device. It works on PC and will work on the next xbox. No loss there.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio28d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing28d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9228d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit28d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing28d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9228d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay30d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn231d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn230d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown30d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay30d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay30d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac30d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger30d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300030d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde30d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde30d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7532d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_29d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.